Nationwide College Cheating Scandal - Actresses, Business Owners Charged, Mar 2019

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  1. MimosaMornings

    MimosaMornings Well- Known Member

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    Wouldn’t the students know their own SAT scores?

    Filled out their application?

    Did their own essay?

    :rolleyes:
     
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  2. Inthedetails

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    When we met with a college admissions person when my oldest was starting the process, we were told that colleges look at how the high schooler took advantage of whatever opportunities they had. A student who had to work in high school was not looked down upon for not volunteering. But a student who had opportunities and did nothing with them, that stood out as unfavorable.

    FWIW.

    jmo
     
  3. MichaelCorleone

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    Does anyone understand why some of them pleaded guilty already today?
     
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    Inthedetails Well-Known Member

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    To avoid details coming out in trial?

    jmo
     
  6. Simply Southern

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    JMHO

    The parents had a dream/goal. The kids/students were told what to do. Most of us do what our parents tell us. I think the kids knew they were at a somewhat advantage, but not the magnitude or extend the parents were willing to go to.
     
  7. Wagtales10

    Wagtales10 2024

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    Not if someone else took the tests and wrote the essays
     
  8. kaen

    kaen Trying to be a good human.

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    Change in the number of people applying to college--rising rapidly. Elite colleges wanting to get the best and brightest as well--- however, they defined that.
     
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    As reported in Australia this morning.
    Felicity Huffman’s words of wisdom come back to haunt

    “Don’t just go through life, grow through life. What are you creating for yourself today?” Huffman asked her followers on March 8, next to a picture setting out her “rules of life”:
    - there are none
    - create your own
    - live them.
    :eek::eek::eek:
     
  10. MichaelCorleone

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    Actually, in reading one of the linked articles I answered my own question. At least for the first guy, he cooperated with investigators and took a plea deal as part of cooperating.

    Man, I really feel for the kids, even though they are probably rich, spoiled kids.
     
  11. Wagtales10

    Wagtales10 2024

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    If you watched the video of Loris daughter, you wouldn’t feel bad
     
  12. Gardenista

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    I believe those were the informants.
     
  13. Inthedetails

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    Hmm...you're thinking like a WSer! LOL.
     
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  14. dancemom

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    $500,000 is a LOT of money. The younger daughter at least is not interested in school. It would make more sense for the parents to put that $500,000 plus four years of USC tuition and living expenses into a trust for the daughter. Is this more about a status symbol for the parents to be able to say that their kids are in a "good" college?
     
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  15. kaen

    kaen Trying to be a good human.

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    Yes, I think they were at the lower end of the range of gpa. USC, like many schools, looks for geo-diversity, balance of students in programs and these kids were from CA. Many high schools have mandatory volunteer programs/spring break build a school before you go to the beach. Athletics has its own rubric depending on gender and sport.
     
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  16. Gardenista

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    There's no way most of these kids didn't know or suspect something fishy. No way.
     
  17. Betty P

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    But why care more about the scores when kids are getting scores that are good enough to get into most colleges?

    IIRC, when we studied these prep-tests in psychometrics in college, we learned they make very little difference overall. I don't recall exactly, but research then showed the prep classes only improved scores by an average of 1 or 2 points. A well designed test should accurately measure your intelligence and academic knowledge without you having to "study" for it. You either know the material well enough to be randomly tested on it or you don't. Teachers would do a review, etc. In grad school, they recommended re-reading your last textbook for any subject you felt was your weakest, but that was about it.
     
  18. kaen

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    If your parents hire someone to help you in the college process, you would have no reason to think that what they are telling you is not kosher. You do what you are asked. I work with high schoolers in the college admissions process. They really don't know how it all works. They depend on the professionals, especially if their parents are wealthy and/or educated.
     
  19. Wagtales10

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    How many get others to take tests for them and still have no clue. Maybe this level of intelligence is why they couldn’t get in?
    There’s no way this is the first time mommy and daddy bought their way for them in their lives
     
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    Obviously to get into better schools.

    I took act prep and it raised my score 4 points.
     
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