GUILTY NC - 2nd Lt. Holley Wimunc, 24, Fayetteville, 10 July 2008

[martin walkerdine]

This is a possible connection between both cases as the first female who is a dental worker was expecting a baby did the second female who is a nurse was her midwife or had any connection with the first female.

 

[martin walkerdine]

A statement from Fort Bragg said Wimunc is a nurse from Lafayette, Louisiana, who works at the hospital's mother and baby ward.
"Womack Army Medical Center staff is very concerned about our soldier and her safety," Col. Terry Walters, commander of WAMC, said in the statement. "The staff and members of her unit are being supported by the command and with counseling available through our unit chaplains."
The blaze comes nearly three weeks after the body of a pregnant soldier was found in a hotel near Fort Bragg.





Spc. Megan Lynn Touma , 23, was seven months pregnant at the time of her death, authorities said.

 

[mysteriew]

This reminds me of the 2 cases near chicago with the peterson case and the stebic case as people suggested that the 2 married man had something to do with the cases of they wife's so far no proof suggests this like in this cases people are joining dots hoping they connect when it could be a possiblity of a serial killer in north carolina like in chicago area.

Except that in the Chicago cases, both women were last seen with their husbands. And in Lisa's case, her husband has admitted that. In Stacy's case, there was a witness to her dead body and a husband with another dead wife- and Stacy pointed the finger at him for that wife's death.

 

[mysteriew]

A statement from Fort Bragg said Wimunc is a nurse from Lafayette, Louisiana, who works at the hospital's mother and baby ward.
"Womack Army Medical Center staff is very concerned about our soldier and her safety," Col. Terry Walters, commander of WAMC, said in the statement. "The staff and members of her unit are being supported by the command and with counseling available through our unit chaplains."
The blaze comes nearly three weeks after the body of a pregnant soldier was found in a hotel near Fort Bragg.





Spc. Megan Lynn Touma , 23, was seven months pregnant at the time of her death, authorities said.

It's always a good idea to post a link when you quote a media article.

You are right, I had not picked up on that connection. However there is a possible flaw to that. I can't say about military, but in the civilian world, a pregnant woman goes to the doctor for checkups and sees their hospital nurses after they go into labor. I haven't seen anything that indicates that Holley was a midwife, only that she was a nurse on the mother/baby ward.

Both women were in the military, both stationed in the same place. Holley had been there for about a year, Megan had recently returned from Germany. It is possible that the two had met, on base or off.

 

[martin walkerdine]

Mother/Baby Unit

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ffer family centered, multi-disciplinary care, specialized in delivering safe, comprehensive and quality care to the mother and infant.

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•Conditions and Diagnosis Treated:
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3. Provide education regarding prenatal care, postpartum care and infant care.

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Sources- POEP Training, skills lab, bedside education books, Videos, Handouts, Group classes, One on one, Involvement of significant other and family members.





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[Pocono Sleuther]

not again...

 

[martin walkerdine]

We will wait to find out if the first female who is now dead was having treatment at this military hosiptal which is the same place that the second female who is now missing and was working there.

Did they see each other as doctor/patient in pre-care treatment for the 7 month pregnant women

 

[SeriouslySearching]

WHAT 3RD PERSON HAVE I MISSED SOMETHING

Maria Lauterbach.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I believe in all 3 cases...there is a man in each of their lives which will be found to be responsible. In Maria Lauterbach's case, Cesar Laurean has already been charged with her murder. In the other two, both have men who had motive and possibly no alibis. I don't think they are connected in any way...and certainly NOT by the fake Zodiac letter!

 

[martin walkerdine]

i do not think that Maria Lauterbach is connected to the other two women that have either died or missing as that is a on going cases but the other two might be connected for reasons due to location, timing, and where both work one is a nurse in a baby ward the other was a dental worker who moved to the area from germany while the nurse only came to area last year sometime in 2007 also both locations have the word creek which is something to do with water like in the cases that were involved in the zodiac killer crimes and also and the dental worker was 7 months did she receive per-care for treatment from the miliatry hospital that the nurse was working at as this is a possible connection so far unless new info is release either by the police or the media or the killer of the first women and the missing person in the second women.

 

[SuziQ]

i do not think that Maria Lauterbach is connected to the other two women that have either died or missing as that is a on going cases but the other two might be connected for reasons due to location, timing, and where both work one is a nurse in a baby ward the other was a dental worker who moved to the area from germany while the nurse only came to area last year sometime in 2007 also both locations have the word creek which is something to do with water like in the cases that were involved in the zodiac killer crimes and also and the dental worker was 7 months did she receive per-care for treatment from the miliatry hospital that the nurse was working at as this is a possible connection so far unless new info is release either by the police or the media or the killer of the first women and the missing person in the second women.

I think the remark about the three cases was in reference to how the military was handling them, not that they have the same killer. We already know who killed Maria.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

i do not think that Maria Lauterbach is connected to the other two women that have either died or missing as that is a on going cases but the other two might be connected for reasons due to location, timing, and where both work one is a nurse in a baby ward the other was a dental worker who moved to the area from germany while the nurse only came to area last year sometime in 2007 also both locations have the word creek which is something to do with water like in the cases that were involved in the zodiac killer crimes and also and the dental worker was 7 months did she receive per-care for treatment from the miliatry hospital that the nurse was working at as this is a possible connection so far unless new info is release either by the police or the media or the killer of the first women and the missing person in the second women.

I thought that Megan Touma just arrived in Ft. Bragg on June 12th and was not seen after that day or at least the very next day iirc.

I am not sure she had been there long enough to set up prenatal care.

imoo

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I think the remark about the three cases was in reference to how the military was handling them, not that they have the same killer. We already know who killed Maria.

Correct, Suzi!

The only commonality among them, imo.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

i do not think that Maria Lauterbach is connected to the other two women that have either died or missing as that is a on going cases but the other two might be connected for reasons due to location, timing, and where both work one is a nurse in a baby ward the other was a dental worker who moved to the area from germany while the nurse only came to area last year sometime in 2007 also both locations have the word creek which is something to do with water like in the cases that were involved in the zodiac killer crimes and also and the dental worker was 7 months did she receive per-care for treatment from the miliatry hospital that the nurse was working at as this is a possible connection so far unless new info is release either by the police or the media or the killer of the first women and the missing person in the second women.

Sorry, but I think you are reaching here. Touma's married BF and the father of her child is the only POI in her case as far as I know.

This last case, you have a soon-to-be ex-husband who has already been abusive/threatening to the point of her getting a protection/restraining order against him. He would be the only POI in her case as far as I can tell.

So I do not see where a creek or water mentioned in the real Zodiac case has ANYTHING to do with either of these cases. We need to stay with the real facts and not go into pure speculation land here.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

"Sources identified the soldier as 24-year-old Holley Lynn Wimunc, a lieutenant who works at Womack Army Medical Center."

http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=298888

Mysteriew, would you mind fixing the title on this thread to reflect her name since they have released it..please. It is so generic to call it "another female soldier". Thanks!!

 

[mysteriew]

Sorry SS, I didn't think of it before and I lost the ability to edit it at 3pm today.

 

[TGIRecovered]

In the case of Megan Touma, we have a baby-daddy who is currently assigned to psychological operations. The "Zodiac" letter appears to me to be a transparent attempt to deflect suspicion away from himself as the cheif suspect.

As to the water references mentioned by martin, those are very common occurences. Notice how almost every psychic prediction in connection with a crime mentions a reference to water. You should be able to find some reference to water in almost any case, just from the name of the street, business, city, or nearby bodies of water. Stacy Peterson=Bollingbrook, two little Oklahoma girls= killed walking home from the bridge, Natalie Holloway= disappeared from an island, etc.

Susan

 

[fran]

This is another typical abusive relationship case. Nothing new. He abused her, she left him, he most likely killed her because he couldn't have her.

Now, to prove it.



JMHO
fran

 

[Snowlover77]

This is another typical abusive relationship case. Nothing new. He abused her, she left him, he most likely killed her because he couldn't have her.

Now, to prove it.



JMHO
fran

Yes, fran, I agree with you 110%. Let's just hope and pray they cna prove it.

 

[LinasK]

The connection is Ft. Bragg and the culture in which they allowed women in the military to be treated. IIRC, wasn't Jeffrey McDonald also stationed at Ft. Bragg???:waitasec: It's just odd the timing of these three cases are so close together, or that we're getting more publicity about them than others that happen in the area.