Jeana (DP)
Former Member
Run of the mill murder, huh? Wow.
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Run of the mill murder, huh? Wow.
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You should define, "run of the mill type murder". Is that like where someone murders multiple people? Or is it defined as a passion killing.. a husband walking in on his wife with another man, and killing that other man.. that might be defined as "run of the mill?EXCUSE ME, wrong terminology on my part. They will give the DP for your run of the mill type MURDER.
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Kiki-
Do you believe that the man who killed Dierdre Kennedy back in the seventies up in Ipswitch should not be given the death sentence?
I assume since you are an Aussie you know about this case.
Any man that would steal a baby from her crib and do what he did to her is unjustifiable and should be put to death. She was little and had no defense .... doesn't that justify a death penalty?
What if something of this nature happened in your family or to your kids.... I wouldn't be so quick to judge and worry about someone's brain not functioning properly..... An eye for an Eye. It's against God and the ten commandments....
Just a thought........
We are supposed to be better than murderers and yet so many people advocate putting another person to death with the state as executioner.
I'm not quick to judge. I've thought about this long and hard. Yes, I do know about the Deirdre Kennedy case. That was horrible. No punishment could be sufficient to what was done to that baby. However, unless we choose to become like him life in prison is all we have. I still don't believe humans and especially the state have the right to take anyone's life. There have been too many mistakes made and innocent people have died for crimes they didn't commit. One is too many. Would killing a murderer bring the victim back? Would it make their absence at birthdays, Christmases, family gatherings any easier? Would it lessen the pain and rage at their loss? And are you implying that I am being unChristian in not supporting the death penalty?
If I remember correctly, the state isn't going after the DP in her case. :furious: I need to go back and look at Riley's thread.
Here in Texas....if you kill somebody....we kill you back! Seems fair.
I used to be against the DP...for the general reason that a civilized society shouldn't kill its own citizens because it degraded the value of human life overall. But, then I realized that war is also a form of state sanctioned murdered where many truly innocent people are killed, so it seems inconsistent to refuse to support the dregs of society being killed. I also used to subscribe to the idea that LWOP was worse than the DP, but then I realized how many amenities they have in prison today...TV, work out rooms, college courses, their own web sites...and I saw that life in prison could be pretty cushy, so these criminals weren't getting much of a punishment, they continued to be a drain on society costing tens of thousands a year to keep allive and giving nothing back.
I do think the system needs to be overhauled and I would reserve the DP for the most horrific killings...rape/murder...torture/murder. I would't have given Scott Peterson the DP and I certainly wouldn't give anyone the DP who accidentally beat their baby to death.
I would cut the time for DP appeals to a max of 10 years and I wouldn't give the DP for any case where actual innocence could reasonably be argued, e.g. 'wrong guy' cases.
How does one ACCIDENTLY beat their baby to death??????
I used to be against the DP...for the general reason that a civilized society shouldn't kill its own citizens because it degraded the value of human life overall. But, then I realized that war is also a form of state sanctioned murdered where many truly innocent people are killed, so it seems inconsistent to refuse to support the dregs of society being killed.
I also used to subscribe to the idea that LWOP was worse than the DP, but then I realized how many amenities they have in prison today...TV, work out rooms, college courses, their own web sites...and I saw that life in prison could be pretty cushy, so these criminals weren't getting much of a punishment, they continued to be a drain on society costing tens of thousands a year to keep allive and giving nothing back.
I would cut the time for DP appeals to a max of 10 years and I wouldn't give the DP for any case where actual innocence could reasonably be argued, e.g. 'wrong guy' cases.