GUILTY NJ - Charles Cullen for killing dozens of patients in NJ & PA, Somerset, 2003

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  1. Doyle

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  3. Toth

    Toth Inactive

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    I bet the investigation turns up some employers who knew but just passed on the problem to someone else because they wanted to avoid bad publicity or lawsuits by not reporting events and suspicions to authorities.

    Digoxin is often used by Gypsies to cause the deaths of elderly men, I thought its presence couldn't be detected on autopsy.
     
  4. veepee

    veepee Guest

    Another good reason to put your trust in God.You go to the hospital to get well and some nut is waiting with a needle.He was on his way to my town "say what you want about my city"We caught him.How did those other cities let him go un notice?
     
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    Makes Nurse Ratchett look a little different, eh? LOL What a SICKO that guy is.
     
  6. Toth

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    The vast majority are not intentional murderers; they are perhaps ill-trained and often poorly paid and usually less-than-dedicated, but few are murderers.
     
  7. ajt400

    ajt400 Guest

    How did this guy actually get away with doing this for so long without someone noticing? A family memeber, co-worker, ect.??
     
  8. Ghostwheel

    Ghostwheel Pyrrhonist

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    From the article:
    "Prosecutors say he gave the seriously ill patients lethal drug overdoses to end their suffering."

    It's possible that the people were so ill that it would not be untoward for them to die, or that the family was so relieved that their relative was no longer suffering that they didn't question. When my father died, anyone could have given him something to kill him, but he had been suffering and going downhill for so long, we wouldn't even question his death. It seemed like it made sense.
     
  9. ajt400

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    I understand that, but I don't think that makes this guy's actions humane or right. What right did he have to do that? Did the patient's ask for his mercy? (Undoubtedly he will say they did)
     
  10. Ghostwheel

    Ghostwheel Pyrrhonist

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    No, it does not make his actions right. I was only speculating on why he managed to get away with it for so long, as I thought you were wondering.
     
  11. Toth

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    Partly its instituional 'mind blindedness'. Partly its a question of presumptive trust.

    Dr, Swango who killed so many patients was first suspected with the very first patient he killed.

    The pediatric nurse in a small Texas town had been let go when her previous employer decided to staff her unit with only licensed RNs, but that policy was adopted solely because they suspected the nurse of several murders. All the hospital did was let her leave and when hired in the small Texas pediatric practice she killed there too, resulting in the divorce and near bankruptcy of the doctor.

    Shipman who killed over four hundred patients in the UK basically got away with it because all those who complained about a doctor intentionally killing his patients were thought of as 'angry relatives'.

    Hospitals like to bury their mistakes. Often the "grief counselor" who approaches the relatives is really the hospitals risk-mananagement lawyer and he discourages an autopsy. He doesn't tell the family, I'm really the hospital's lawyer and I'm trying to protect the hospital's interests.
     
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    Somerset Medical Center waited four months to notify authorities about suspicions that an employee was killing patients, and during that time nurse Charles Cullen murdered five more, according to taped conversations recently made public.

    The hospital is defending the delay and says it thought the appropriate step instead was to contact the state Department of Health and Senior Services about possibly abnormal laboratory results in several patient deaths.

    Chief medical officer William K. Cors, in a recorded July 2003 conference call with the state poison control center, said Somerset was not ready to alert police, even though the poison control chief warned the hospital it appeared to have a killer on its hands.

    http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/states/new_jersey/11961141.htm
     
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    A convicted serial killer who targeted hospital patients while he worked as a nurse will be charged next week in the deaths of five more people, according to a published report.

    Hunterdon County prosecutors will file charges against Charles Cullen on Monday, The Star-Ledger of Newark reported Saturday, and he is expected to plead guilty to all the charges. The five victims were patients in critical care units at Hunterdon Medical Center, the report said.

    Cullen has pleaded guilty to murdering 24 patients and attempting to kill five others between 1988 and 2003 at medical facilities where he worked in New Jersey and Pennsylvania.

    Cullen, who worked as a nurse for 16 years, has claimed to have killed dozens of patients.

    http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/104-06252005-507241.html
     
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    mysteriew A diamond in process

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    The confessions by 45-year-old Charles Cullen brought to 29 the number of victims he admitted killing in New Jersey and Pennsylvania. The five new victims ranged in age from 49 to 81.

    Cullen has admitted killing patients at Somerset Medical Center in Somerville; Warren Hospital in Phillipsburg; St. Barnabas Medical Center in Livingston and Morristown Memorial Hospital, as well as facilities in Easton, Salisbury Township and Fountain Hills, Pa.

    He was arrested in December 2003.

    He was able to move from hospital to hospital, despite suspicions he was killing patients, because the institutions did not report their fears to authorities.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8378620/
     
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    Eight families who gained a $95 million civil judgment in 2010 against serial killer nurse Charles Cullen — but likely won't see a dime of it — have failed in their latest attempt to drag St. Luke's University Hospital back into their lawsuits.

    The families had asked a panel of state Superior Court judges to reverse Lehigh County Judge Edward D. Reibman's order dismissing St. Luke's from their cases.

    http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-charles-cullen-appeals-denied-20120327,0,6541056.story
     
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    Eight families who gained a $95 million civil judgment in 2010 against serial killer nurse Charles Cullen — but likely won't see a dime of it — have failed in their latest attempt to drag St. Luke's University Hospital back into their lawsuits.

    The families had asked a panel of state Superior Court judges to reverse Lehigh County Judge Edward D. Reibman's order dismissing St. Luke's from their cases.



    http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-charles-cullen-appeals-denied-20120327,0,6541056.story
     
  18. OkieGranny

    OkieGranny New Member Staff Member Forum Coordinators

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    From March 2006:

    http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/03/02/killer.nurse/

     

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