NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #2

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  1. oceanblueeyes

    oceanblueeyes Well-Known Member

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    I have a very hard time believing he did this due to an adverse reaction with drugs.

    But I don't take any prescription drugs so my knowledge of their side affects are minimal at best.

    Has any defendant ever won a case when they claimed a certain type of drug made them murder? Wouldn't MD see the drastic change in him?
     


  2. bears10

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    I don’t know much about guns bc I’m in a very blue state but I also think that’s a LOT of guns for one year.

    Kind of off topic but his brother was really quiet today in comparison to the previous couple of days. I say this bc his brother said in the 33 min interview that SP may have bought the bump stocks but prob didn’t use them and they were prob still in the bag. However today it’s crystal clear he did use them.
     
  3. Betty P

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    JMO, it's possible he tipped someone at the hotel to help him carry the bags, etc. upstairs. Sheriff seemed to think, though, that someone else had to help him plan all the details. It took a long time to plan and coordinate.

    Interesting a reporter asked the Sheriff about the note in one of the photos written on yellow paper. Sheriff acknowledged it sort of, but said it wasn't a suicide note. Could have been notes to himself about how to carry out his plans, manage all the weapons he was using.
     
  4. popsicle

    popsicle faith hope love

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    I read it this morning and that is what it said.

    Also this:

    “If somebody has an underlying aggression problem and you sedate them with that drug, they can become aggressive,” said Dr. Mel Pohl, chief medical officer of the Las Vegas Recovery Center. “It can disinhibit an underlying emotional state. … It is much like what happens when you give alcohol to some people … they become aggressive instead of going to sleep.”
     
  5. bears10

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    I’ve taken more prescription pills than I’m proud of, not all of them prescribed to me. The only drug I could see causing me to do something out of my control is ambien, and I certainly wouldn’t have stockpiled guns for a year. I cleaned my parents toilet at 1am in my sleep while my sister and mom laughed their asses off. But I know I am going to be met with people telling me we all react differently and site the one incident that may or may not be related to benzos
     
  6. dizzychick

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    You guys should watch ' Owning Mahoney" a great movie with Phillip Seymore Hoffman if you want to know how a casino deals with a high roller . I believe this was the casino in Atlantic City outside of New York. Dont want to spoil it for anyone but you will find the casino behavior appauling
     
  7. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers not today satan

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    Do certain medicines raise murder risk?

    I wonder what prompted him to seek help, and if he ever saw a psychiatrist for his issues.

    I think there's a huge difference between become violent while taking a medicine and what SP did. This wasn't because he took Valium.
     
  8. popsicle

    popsicle faith hope love

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    I don't think it was either ... but it shows something was going on within him and in his life.
     
  9. Ambitioned

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    I wouldn't laugh. I'd be thanking you for cleaning the toilet. ;)
     
  10. bears10

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    It could be a lot of things. I took Valium for my back spasms, my dad takes it for his anxiety due to 50 years of alcoholism, and my sister takes xanax (not Valium but a similar benzo) for her anxiety. I also have been prescribed benzos to bring me down at night bc my daytime ADHD meds make me wired. There could be a host of reasons he was prescribed the meds.

    Remember, gambling is an addiction. Keeping it vague but I’m sure you can pick up what I’m putting down.
     
  11. thesensitivechild

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    Once I made a cake on ambien and got to lazy to wait for it to finish cooking and took it out and ate almost all of it and then my mother came down and almost fainted because she was disturbed by the site. I also once texted someone saying "poo poo caca poops" when on ambien. Lolz. I've taken it since but nothing happens. I don't even sleep... mind you those stories are from ten years ago.


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  12. bears10

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    They may have thanked me but I don’t remember :) it happened like 10 years ago and I’ll never live it down lol
     
  13. bears10

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    You are brave to even look thru your ambien texts lol. I’m laughing out loud at poo poo caca poops and wondering if your from the NE bc I never really hear anyone say caca besides where I’m from. I’ve done more than clean the toilet but WS is kind of PG13 so I thought that was the most appropriate story to tell 😂. And in your defensive cake batter is awesome so there’s that
     
  14. dizzychick

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    good post! im just too simple minded and honest to absorb or even understand how all of this works and I loathe math and criminals lol
     
  15. bears10

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    I will not be surprised if it comes out that he was in major financial problems bc of his gambling. I’ve never come across anyone or so much as read about anyone who can sustain a millionaire lifestyle by gambling on SLOTS of all things. Poker or blackjack would be wayyyy more reasonable. But slots? Come on. Not realistic at all IMO and this is coming from someone who loves to play slots.

    I have to be honest it seems kind of awkward and cringey to say that you’re a professional gambler... people assume poker or blackjack ... then you respond “oh no, video poker and slots”. Cringe.
     
  16. katydid23

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    YES, didn't a journalist contact security services at the stadium, and they were told that 'no such thing ever happened'---regarding them escorting a woman out of the concert after making threats etc. I remember that article, posted upstream here somewhere.
     
  17. mrsu

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    That is interesting because I have seen that with pot too. Growing up in Berkeley in the 60's, we smoked our share of weed growing up. And through the years...:blush:...

    IN the majority of cases, smoking a joint with someone makes everyone feel relaxed, makes them laugh a lot, and then want to eat something before taking a nap.

    But occasionally, we'd run into someone who got angry and aggressive when they smoked. And I always kept my distance from them, because it seemed like there were underlying issues, in those cases.
     
  20. jjenny

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    Being angry and aggressive could cause someone to get into fights, not meticulously plan mass murder.
     
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