GUILTY NV - Tammy Meyers, 44, fatally shot at her Las Vegas home, 12 Feb 2015 - #7

[SeeAlice]

Anybody catch the (Freudian?) slip by Brandon on page 31?

http://www.mynews3.com/media/lib/166/1/8/3/183997e6-0122-44f7-99b5-c23203a0e717/030515Nowsch.pdf

 

[sonjay]

Anybody catch the (Freudian?) slip by Brandon on page 31?

http://www.mynews3.com/media/lib/166/1/8/3/183997e6-0122-44f7-99b5-c23203a0e717/030515Nowsch.pdf

Where he refers to EN as the victim? Yes, I LOL'd at that.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Las-Vegas-*Arrest*-5&p=11593951#post11593951

 

[SeeAlice]

Actually, as I understand it, we only got an arrest because EN's friends, ZA & KK, called the police when they realized that EN's tale of the shooting was true.

The Meyerses certainly weren't giving police any useful information. They seemed to be doing their best to send police off on a wild goose chase after the spiky-haired dude.

That's what I'm starting to believe: they never wanted an arrest and they thought they could prevent it from happening by giving police false, misleading and incomplete information.

JMO

 

[LancelotLink]

That's what I'm starting to believe: they never wanted an arrest and they thought they could prevent it from happening by giving police false, misleading and incomplete information.

JMO

Which goes a long way in explaining that otherwise inexplicable press conference by RM, blowing sunshine and kisses to LVMP and claiming the reason he couldn't tell "you guys" the press was, "now you know...we knew him. They knew...Mommy knew who this was. He knew where we lived."

 

[LancelotLink]

Another piece of the puzzle I hope to learn more about, the real reason RM and Co. went to EN's house.

 

[SeeAlice]

Page 59 - KM was asked to assist a police artist in coming up with a sketch...
In the early morning hours of Friday, 2/13/15.
http://www.mynews3.com/media/lib/166/1/8/3/183997e6-0122-44f7-99b5-c23203a0e717/030515Nowsch.pdf

That makes this even more confusing:

Saturday night (2/14), police announced to media there was no description or sketch of the suspect available. Then about 15 minutes later, they magically released a sketch. (There are tweets by a local reporter from that night backing this up.)

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...est*&p=11498023&highlight=sketch#post11498023

 

[sonjay]

That's what I'm starting to believe: they never wanted an arrest and they thought they could prevent it from happening by giving police false, misleading and incomplete information.

It sure seems like it, doesn't it?

Which goes a long way in explaining that otherwise inexplicable press conference by RM, blowing sunshine and kisses to LVMP and claiming the reason he couldn't tell "you guys" the press was, "now you know...we knew him. They knew...Mommy knew who this was. He knew where we lived."

OMG, I never made that connection. I bet you're right!

 

[RANCH]

I read up thread about mitigating circumstances and thought that perhaps that will come into play in Andrews defense. Maybe he didn't know what was going on. Then I read this.

Transcripts reveal detectives confronted Andrews with their information on the cell phone data. Andrews suggested his phone may have been stolen from him during the time of the shooting, despite his phone being back in his possession the following morning

It's obvious to me that he is not an innocent player in this case. Why would he lie about his whereabouts the night that Tammy was killed? Because he knows that telling the truth is a confession to murder. JMO.

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/28716378/alleged-driver-denies-involvement-in-tammy-meyers-shooting

 

[SeeAlice]

Another piece of the puzzle I hope to learn more about, the real reason RM and Co. went to EN's house.

Neighbor/s told media that Bob & one of his sons started that on the 15th, wasn't it? Day after TM's death.

KK & ZA hadn't phoned in their tips yet so I kind of doubt RM sleuthed that out on social media, as he later claimed.

Hmm...

 

[SeeAlice]

For what possible reasons could Tammy's husband, daughter and sons not want her killer/s apprehended and prosecuted?

 

[Midge Montana]

I read up thread about mitigating circumstances and thought that perhaps that will come into play in Andrews defense. Maybe he didn't know what was going on. Then I read this.



It's obvious to me that he is not an innocent player in this case. Why would he lie about his whereabouts the night that Tammy was killed? Because he knows that telling the truth is a confession to murder. JMO.

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/28716378/alleged-driver-denies-involvement-in-tammy-meyers-shooting

Examples of mitigating circumstances...
Victim culpability. The victim willingly participated in the crime or initiated the events leading to it. If Domingo started a fight by attacking Walter and Walter responded with more force than was necessary to defend himself, this factor would come into play at Walt’s assault-and-battery sentencing.
Difficult personal history. The defendant’s unique upbringing or family circumstances led to her criminal conduct. For example, a lawyer might try to persuade a sentencing judge that the client’s violent acts are attributable to abuse she suffered as a child.

These are just two examples.
Source:http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/mitigating-circumstances-sentencing.html

 

[jjenny]

DA isn't claiming "mitigating circumstances." He is claiming he was not there at all.
Kind of funky "self-defense" case we have here. EN apparently isn't even talking to his lawyer, while his alleged co-conspirator claims he wasn't there at all.
Why is that, if that was a case self-defense?

 

[RANCH]

We know that Andrews car was involved that night from this.

But she also testified that her son owned the silver 2000 Audi A6 prosecutors said followed Meyers to her home that night, and a police detective told the same grand jury that Andrews’ vehicle was captured on surveillance video from one of Meyers’ neighbors.

Also from this.

Police said home surveillance video captured the car involved in the deadly shooting and that it was a crucial piece to making the connection to Andrews' car — which matched the design and rear brake light assembly seen in the video.

So if Andrews is correct, he needs to convince a jury that someone stole not only his phone and brought it back, but his car also. That's not going to happen.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/l...-mom-he-wasn-t-involved-tammy-meyers-shooting

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/28716378/alleged-driver-denies-involvement-in-tammy-meyers-shooting

 

[Miss Muffet]

Yep. And why did they keep going back to the park?

Villa Monterrey and Cimarron are the only two roads to their house when coming from the north. People have driving habits. There are three roads into my neighborhood, but I almost always take the same street even if it means passing up another street.

 

[SStarr33]

We know that Andrews car was involved that night from this.



Also from this.



So if Andrews is correct, he needs to convince a jury that someone stole not only his phone and brought it back, but his car also. That's not going to happen.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/l...-mom-he-wasn-t-involved-tammy-meyers-shooting

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/28716378/alleged-driver-denies-involvement-in-tammy-meyers-shooting

These kids need to play Let's Make a Deal because they are TOAST.

 

[RANCH]

Examples of mitigating circumstances...
Victim culpability. The victim willingly participated in the crime or initiated the events leading to it. If Domingo started a fight by attacking Walter and Walter responded with more force than was necessary to defend himself, this factor would come into play at Walt’s assault-and-battery sentencing.
Difficult personal history. The defendant’s unique upbringing or family circumstances led to her criminal conduct. For example, a lawyer might try to persuade a sentencing judge that the client’s violent acts are attributable to abuse she suffered as a child.

These are just two examples.
Source:http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/mitigating-circumstances-sentencing.html

Thanks. I don't think that Tammy did anything that would make her culpable in her own death. Difficult personal history for the defendant? I hope that doesn't come into play at trial because everyone has difficulties in life and that's not an excuse to kill someone. JMO.

 

[jjenny]

We know that Andrews car was involved that night from this.



Also from this.



So if Andrews is correct, he needs to convince a jury that someone stole not only his phone and brought it back, but his car also. That's not going to happen.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/l...-mom-he-wasn-t-involved-tammy-meyers-shooting

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/28716378/alleged-driver-denies-involvement-in-tammy-meyers-shooting

It amazes me that he has a gull to talk to a reporter to claim how innocent he is. Yet we have to leave all common sense at the door to believe somebody stole his car and his cell phone, went out to Meyers neighborhood, and then returned it without anyone noticing. That after DA got texts and calls from EN to come pick him up.

 

[SStarr33]

It amazes me that he has a gull to talk to a reporter to claim how innocent he is. Yet we have to leave all common sense at the door to believe somebody stole his car and his cell phone, went out to Meyers neighborhood, and then returned it without anyone noticing. That after DA got texts and calls from EN to come pick him up.

He seems to be the deny until you die type of guy.

 

[sonjay]

For what possible reasons could Tammy's husband, daughter and sons not want her killer/s apprehended and prosecuted?

That's a very very good question. I just can't think of any answer that makes sense. Regardless of what set this whole thing off, or who was driving the car, or whether EN had deadly intentions when the Audi entered the cul de sac, or anything else........ why on earth would they not want TM's killer identified and apprehended?

 

[newone]

I agree. Not at all. Totally different hairline, facial features, and weight. The sketch has an uncanny resemblance to the person who went missing two days prior to the shooting who is now dead. RM had posted on March 20th asking bounty hunters to find him and offered a reward. I'm sure it was a coincidence since it was an entirely different state.

eeek!!! who was that???