NY - $250m fraud against Former President Donald Trump, Trump Org., Eric, Donald Jr., Sept 2022, Trial 2 Oct 2023

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Thank you for publishing trial news, a 30-60 second MSN news story doesn't cut it.
 
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In court on October 3, 2023, in his New York fraud trial, the presiding Judge Arthur Engoron angrily ordered Donald Trump to take down his threatening and harassing social media post on Truth Social about his law clerk, and put in place a limited gag order that prohibited Trump from making disparaging or threatening comments, social media, or internet posts about any members of his staff or court personnel.

Trump complied.

Sort of.

Trump immediately deleted the post from his Truth Social account. However, the post remained up on his official website DonaldJTrump.com, where it remains to this day. The social media post continuing to be up about the judge's clerk on Donald Trump's website seems to be a clear violation of the judge's order.


 
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Ah - Found one!! :D

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Trump fraud trial disrupted as court employee yells out to ‘help’ him - live

Former president returned to court for New York civil fraud trial and filed motion to appeal his DC election interference gag order
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Oct. 19, 2023
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Returning to the witness stand this morning was Jack Weisselberg, former Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg’s son, an executive director at commercial real estate firm Ladder Capital. He testified about a loan to Trump relating to the 40 Wall Street skyscraper in Manhattan.
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After a 15-minute recess, the next witness was called — David McArdle, a senior managing director at commercial real estate services firm Cushman & Wakefield, which did some appraisal work on Trump properties.
 
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Friday, October 20th:
*Bench Trial continues (Day 14) (@ 10am ET) – NY - New York vs. Donald J. Trump (76/now 77), Donald Trump, Jr. (45) & Eric Trump (38/now 39) & the Trump Organization, Inc. (Allen Weisselberg (75/now 76) & Jeffrey McConney) are being sued by Letitia James, the New York Attorney General, who is leading a civil investigation (which cannot result in criminal charges filed on 9/21/22) & has spent years looking at whether the company committed various acts of fraud over several decades. In the civil case, Ms. James has filed a lawsuit against Trump & two of his children accusing them of "astounding" fraud & deception.
New York is seeking $250 million in financial penalties & asked the court to ban Trump, Donald Trump Jr. & Eric Trump from serving as an officer or director in any corporation registered or licensed in New York. James also requested the court ban the former president & his business from acquiring real estate in New York or from applying for loans from any New York financial institution for five years. James's civil case accuses Trump of lying from 2011 to 2021 about asset values at the Trump Organization, as well as his own net worth, in order to obtain better terms from lenders & insurers.
Lawsuit against: Donald John Trump, Donald Trump, Jr, Eric Trump, Allen Weisselberg, Jeffrey McConney, The Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, The Trump Organization, Inc., Trump Organization LLC, DJT Holdings LLC, DJT Holinds Managing Memer, Trump Endeavor 12 LLC, 401 North Wabash Venture LLC, Trump Old Post of Fice LLC, 40 Wall Street LLC & Seven Springs LLC.
All charges against Ivanka Trump were dismissed.
Bench Trial began on 10/2/23. (could last until 12/22/23 per Judge).
The lawsuit’s remaining 6 counts allege similar acts of fraud (that Trump inflated his assets on statements of financial condition that he submitted to banks & insurers for personal gain).
Judge Arthur F. Engoron presiding / NY State Attorney General Leticia James & senior enforcement counsel Kevin Wallace,
Defense attorney Christopher Kise & Jesus Suarez & Alina Habba for Trump, Weisselberg & the rest of the defendants for Trump Org. / Clifford Robert of Robert & Robert PLLC for Donald, Jr. & Eric.
Case & court info & Summary Judgement from 9/21/22 thru 9/28/23 & Bench Trial Day 1-12 (10/2-10/18/23) reference post #653 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...mp-org-and-executives-oct-2023.673964/page-33
10/19/23 Update: The NY Attorney General’s office suggested that the Trump Org. failed to produce evidence in the $250 million fraud trial of Trump & his company. The office cited a report accusing former Trump CFO Allen Weisselberg of lying under oath. The AG’s office proposed that an independent monitor conduct a forensic review of electronic data held by the Trump Org. from August to September 2016. The letter cites a Forbes article accusing Weisselberg of lying during his sworn testimony last week in the civil trial in Manhattan Supreme Court. Kevin Wallace suggested an Oct. 27 deadline for the monitor to submit a report on the forensic examination. Trump & his co-defendants have denied wrongdoing.
10/19/23 Thursday, Bench Trial Day 13: State witnesses: Jack Weisselberg, former Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg’s son, an executive director at commercial real estate firm Ladder Capital. David McArdle, a senior managing director at commercial real estate services firm Cushman & Wakefield, which did some appraisal work on Trump properties.
For more info see post #666 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...mp-org-and-executives-oct-2023.673964/page-34
Bench trial continues on Friday, 10/20/23.
 
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www.thedailybeast.com

Trump Is About to Be Ripped to Shreds by New York Judge

Donald Trump posted a lie about his bank fraud trial judge’s clerk. He was ordered to take it down. But he kept it up, and now lawyers have been warned a lashing could be coming.
www.thedailybeast.com

Trump is expected to get a tongue lashing from the judge for keeping his post up regarding his law clerk. Spare me the tongue lashing judge- please do something that has some meaning. Trump doesn't respond to "tongue lashings"- he needs to get a real honest to goodness punishment, you know, like being thrown in the slammer for a night.
 
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Day 14 of the proceedings gets underway following a motion filed late Thursday by Ivanka Trump that seeks to quash three subpoenas that would compel her to testify in the trial.

Donald Trump's eldest daughter, who was no longer a part of the Trump Organization by 2016, was dismissed from the civil suit by an appeals court in June.

But the New York attorney general still plans to call her as a witness in the state's case. In early September, the AG sent subpoenas to three corporate entities affiliated with Ivanka Trump to force her to testify in person.

"The NYAG, which never deposed Ms. Trump, is effectively trying to force her back into this case from which she was dismissed by a unanimous decision of the Appellate Division, First Department," Ivanka Trump's lawyer, Bennet Moskowitz, wrote in Thursday's filing.

Moskowitz argued that the subpoenas should be thrown out since they were not properly served and because the AG lacks jurisdiction to force Ivanka Trump, who is no longer a New York resident, to testify.

"The NYAG knows this, which is why it has subpoenaed three corporate entities as an end-run around its failure to pursue Ms. Trump's deposition when it had the chance," the filing said.

In a Thursday email that was entered as an exhibit to the motion, a lawyer for the attorney general's office indicated they do not plan to request Judge Arthur Engoron hold Ivanka Trump in contempt. They instead plan to file a motion today to compel her to appear in court, according to the email.
Ivanka Trump files motion to keep from testifying
 
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sds71 said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1715370158468780057

themessenger.com

Judge Chastises Trump For 'Blatant Violation of the Gag Order' on His Clerk, Raises Possible Penalties Including Fines or Jail

New York Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron is upset Trump failed to delete a post attacking his clerk on his campaign page, weeks after the imposition of a gag order.
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It's a miserable day weather wise in the city today, but I'm not referring to the weather when I say any defense of this violation is all wet. jmo

Trump knows that he can go far enough not to "really" cross the line and then gaslight anyone who think he did.

Book him into a cell, imo, and label the key "classified" so it goes missing in some toilet.

jmo
 
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Inthedetails said:
It's a miserable day weather wise in the city today, but I'm not referring to the weather when I say any defense of this violation is all wet. jmo

Trump knows that he can go far enough not to "really" cross the line and then gaslight anyone who think he did.

Book him into a cell, imo, and label the key "classified" so it goes missing in some toilet.

jmo
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Yes it’s an ugly, gloomy day here weather wise, but I agree with you.

IMO giving Trump verbal warnings has at best proved worthless and at worst provides kindling for him to stoke the fires among his followers.

I think a night in jail would shake him up a bit, with the disclaimer that NO PICTURES be permitted.

Any picture of Trump behind bars would make him a martyr to his followers, even more so than his mug shot.

IMO
 
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Arkay said:
Yes it’s an ugly, gloomy day here weather wise, but I agree with you.

IMO giving Trump verbal warnings has at best proved worthless and at worst provides kindling for him to stoke the fires among his followers.

I think a night in jail would shake him up a bit, with the disclaimer that NO PICTURES be permitted.

Any picture of Trump behind bars would make him a martyr to his followers, even more so than his mug shot.

IMO
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Dollars to donuts he will not see a jail cell- so far these judges are all bark and no bite!
 
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Defense lawyer Clifford Robert filed a letter late Thursday asking Judge Engoron to strike testimony from Trump Organization executive Patrick Birney about an alleged "scheme" to pump former President Trump's net worth.

During his testimony Monday, Birney testified that former Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg told him that "Mr. Trump wanted his net worth on the statement of financial condition to go up." The New York attorney general has argued this statement supports the existence of an "illicit agreement or scheme" within the Trump Organization to inflate Trump's net worth.

Describing the statement as "merely a recitation of what Mr. Weisselberg allegedly heard from President Trump without adoption or indorsement," Robert argued that the statement cannot be assumed to be true based on Birney's testimony.

"In any event, there is nothing in the record establishing President Trump actually made the statement to Mr. Weisselberg," Robert added in a footnote to his letter.
Ivanka Trump files motion to keep from testifying
 
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Trump's lawyer Chris Kise told Engoron that the website including the post was an "inadvertent" mistake and that Trump has tried to comply with the order since it was imposed.

"The Truth Social post was taken down when President Trump represented it to the court," Kise said.

Addressing why the post remained on Trump's campaign website, Kise blamed Trump's "very large [campaign] operation."

"This unfortunately is a part of the process that is built into the campaign structure," Kise said.

Engoron, who did not immediately resolve the issue, said, "I will take this under advisement, but I want to make clear that Donald Trump is still responsible for the large machine, even if it is a large machine."
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Judge Engoron said he is considering holding former President Trump in contempt of court -- and even raised the possibility of imprisonment -- following what Engoron described as a "blatant violation of the gag order" imposed earlier this month during the trial.

Engoron imposed a limited gag order on Oct. 3 after Trump made a false social media post about the judge's clerk. While Trump immediately removed the post from Truth Social, Trump's campaign website appeared to still include the social media post until last night.

"Despite this clear order, last night I learned that the subject offending post was never removed from [the Trump's campaign website], in fact had been on that website for the past 17 days," Engoron said.

The judge said he was considering holding Trump in contempt of court, fining him, or "possibly imprisoning him."

"Incendiary untruths can, and in some cases already had, lead to serious physical harm," Engoron said.
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According to Donald Trump's attorney Chris Kise, 3,701 people viewed a screenshot of Trump's false Truth Social post about Judge Engoron's clerk that was added to Trump's 2024 campaign website.

Engoron had requested that Kise provide specific information about the reach of Trump's post after it was removed from Truth Social but remained on the campaign site. A screenshot of the Truth social post was available on Trump's campaign site for more than two weeks after it was removed from the Truth Social platform, according to Engoron.

Kise said that the post was initially emailed to 25,810 people from a "press" email list. A total of 6,713 people opened the email, which directed recipients to a post on Trump's campaign website.

Of the 114 million people who visited Trump's campaign website between Oct. 3 and Oct. 19, a total of 3,701 users viewed the actual post, including the people directed to the post via email.

"You have to click through layers to get there," Kise said.

Engoron has still not ruled on what punishment, if any, Trump faces for the potential violation of his gag order.
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The trial adjourned until Monday without Judge Engoron determining what penalty, if any, Trump will face after the judge said Trump violated his limited gag order by not removing a false Truth Social post about Engoron's clerk from his campaign website.

Prior to adjournment, former Trump Organization vice president Raymond Flores testified about his limited role in reviewing Trump’s 2020 statement of financial condition and assessing the value of Trump’s golf courses.

Flores, who had a limited recollection of events, is expected to return to the witness stand to complete his testimony on Monday.
Ivanka Trump files motion to keep from testifying

MOO imprisoning him would only further make him a martyr to his more extreme, unbalanced supporters. Hit him hard in his pocketbook. Money and power, or at the very least, appearing rich and powerful, are the only two motivators in his life IMO
 
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tlcya said:
Trump's lawyer Chris Kise told Engoron that the website including the post was an "inadvertent" mistake and that Trump has tried to comply with the order since it was imposed.

"The Truth Social post was taken down when President Trump represented it to the court," Kise said.

Addressing why the post remained on Trump's campaign website, Kise blamed Trump's "very large [campaign] operation."

"This unfortunately is a part of the process that is built into the campaign structure," Kise said.

Engoron, who did not immediately resolve the issue, said, "I will take this under advisement, but I want to make clear that Donald Trump is still responsible for the large machine, even if it is a large machine."
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Judge Engoron said he is considering holding former President Trump in contempt of court -- and even raised the possibility of imprisonment -- following what Engoron described as a "blatant violation of the gag order" imposed earlier this month during the trial.

Engoron imposed a limited gag order on Oct. 3 after Trump made a false social media post about the judge's clerk. While Trump immediately removed the post from Truth Social, Trump's campaign website appeared to still include the social media post until last night.

"Despite this clear order, last night I learned that the subject offending post was never removed from [the Trump's campaign website], in fact had been on that website for the past 17 days," Engoron said.

The judge said he was considering holding Trump in contempt of court, fining him, or "possibly imprisoning him."

"Incendiary untruths can, and in some cases already had, lead to serious physical harm," Engoron said.
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According to Donald Trump's attorney Chris Kise, 3,701 people viewed a screenshot of Trump's false Truth Social post about Judge Engoron's clerk that was added to Trump's 2024 campaign website.

Engoron had requested that Kise provide specific information about the reach of Trump's post after it was removed from Truth Social but remained on the campaign site. A screenshot of the Truth social post was available on Trump's campaign site for more than two weeks after it was removed from the Truth Social platform, according to Engoron.

Kise said that the post was initially emailed to 25,810 people from a "press" email list. A total of 6,713 people opened the email, which directed recipients to a post on Trump's campaign website.

Of the 114 million people who visited Trump's campaign website between Oct. 3 and Oct. 19, a total of 3,701 users viewed the actual post, including the people directed to the post via email.

"You have to click through layers to get there," Kise said.

Engoron has still not ruled on what punishment, if any, Trump faces for the potential violation of his gag order.
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The trial adjourned until Monday without Judge Engoron determining what penalty, if any, Trump will face after the judge said Trump violated his limited gag order by not removing a false Truth Social post about Engoron's clerk from his campaign website.

Prior to adjournment, former Trump Organization vice president Raymond Flores testified about his limited role in reviewing Trump’s 2020 statement of financial condition and assessing the value of Trump’s golf courses.

Flores, who had a limited recollection of events, is expected to return to the witness stand to complete his testimony on Monday.
Ivanka Trump files motion to keep from testifying

MOO imprisoning him would only further make him a martyr to his more extreme, unbalanced supporters. Hit him hard in his pocketbook. Money and power, or at the very least, appearing rich and powerful, are the only two motivators in his life IMO
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Fine, but make him pay the cash fine BEFORE leaving the courtroom.
 
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Trump fined $5,000 for violating his gag order. Justice Engoron did *not* hold him in contempt and noted it was "first time" violation and credited Trump's attorney's arguments that it was "inadvertent."


"Make no mistake: future violations, whether intentional or unintentional," will lead to "far more severe sanctions," including "possibly imprisoning" Trump

https://twitter.com/x/status/1715448391457501623
 
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sds71 said:
Trump fined $5,000 for violating his gag order. Justice Engoron did *not* hold him in contempt and noted it was "first time" violation and credited Trump's attorney's arguments that it was "inadvertent."


"Make no mistake: future violations, whether intentional or unintentional," will lead to "far more severe sanctions," including "possibly imprisoning" Trump

https://twitter.com/x/status/1715448391457501623
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5K is chump change, he will violate the order again. I give it a week, tops
 
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Arkay said:
Yes it’s an ugly, gloomy day here weather wise, but I agree with you.

IMO giving Trump verbal warnings has at best proved worthless and at worst provides kindling for him to stoke the fires among his followers.

I think a night in jail would shake him up a bit, with the disclaimer that NO PICTURES be permitted.

Any picture of Trump behind bars would make him a martyr to his followers, even more so than his mug shot.

IMO
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Especially sitting on the toilet.
 
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