NY – Ex POTUS Donald Trump, sued by E. Jean Carroll, DT found liable re sexual assault, $5M award, countersuit dismissed, appeal rejected, 2023

I think the people around him know better than to suggest ANYTHING that goes against his known stance on the subject. If they even hint to him about something he wouldn't agree with, they would be labeled "Disloyal" and stricken from the inside circle and then treated like a traitor. People are so afraid of him that they wouldn't even think about disagreeing with him about anything. I doubt even his lawyers challenge him on anything. They get paid to agree with him and they know it.

We don't know for sure if they get paid. It may be based on a successful resolution to T's legal demands.

If the lawyers are doing this for their own personal claim to fame, then I have no pity for them when they get burned.
 

Donald Trump claims a jury finding that he wasn’t liable for raping E. Jean Carroll derails her other pending lawsuit against him.

Trump’s lawyer Alina Habba said in a Friday court filing that she plans to use the argument to urge a judge to throw out Carroll’s 2019 defamation suit before it goes to trial in New York as early as this fall.

A federal jury on May 9 found Trump liable for sexually abusing — but not raping — Carroll in a department store dressing room in 1996, resolving the 2022 civil lawsuit and awarding her $5 million in damages.

Habba said in a letter to the judge that the jury’s finding on rape in the case dubbed “Carroll II” has a major effect on Carroll’s first defamation suit against Trump, which she filed while he was in office and after he called her a liar from the White House.

“Since the jury verdict in Carroll II did not find defendant liable for rape, then the complaint filed in Carroll I based solely on defamatory statements regarding an alleged rape should be dismissed by this court as a matter of law,” Habba said in the letter.

Habba also urged the court to deny Carroll’s request to amend the 2019 suit to add new details gleaned from Trump’s deposition in the sexual-abuse case, as well as remarks he made about her on a televised CNN town hall the day after the verdict.
 

"The happiest day of my life was on May 9th," the 79-year-old writer she told an outlet in a recent interview. "Robbie [Roberta Kaplan] and I stood in that courtroom and heard nine jurors respond that we had been telling the truth. The moment of joy was so incredible. It was like a new world had opened up to me."

Carroll revealed that after the court proceedings, she celebrated with Kaplan — her attorney — with music and champagne and good food as she got "used to being so happy in a new world," noting that the next day she was "so tired from being happy."

"I was in bed when CNN started with the former President," added Carroll, clarifying that she completely missed Trump's highly controversial Town Hall Q&A in which he cruelly slammed his accuser for her alleged lies, calling her a "wack job" and claiming she'd made up a "fake story" about him as the New Hampshire audience laughed and cheered.

"The next morning ... it was like being hit by a deluge of hatred on Twitter," she admitted. "And I didn’t understand what was going on."

Following the announcement, the former POTUS yet again slammed Carroll on social media on Tuesday, May 23.

 

Donald Trump claims a jury finding that he wasn’t liable for raping E. Jean Carroll derails her other pending lawsuit against him.

Trump’s lawyer Alina Habba said in a Friday court filing that she plans to use the argument to urge a judge to throw out Carroll’s 2019 defamation suit before it goes to trial in New York as early as this fall.

A federal jury on May 9 found Trump liable for sexually abusing — but not raping — Carroll in a department store dressing room in 1996, resolving the 2022 civil lawsuit and awarding her $5 million in damages.

Habba said in a letter to the judge that the jury’s finding on rape in the case dubbed “Carroll II” has a major effect on Carroll’s first defamation suit against Trump, which she filed while he was in office and after he called her a liar from the White House.

“Since the jury verdict in Carroll II did not find defendant liable for rape, then the complaint filed in Carroll I based solely on defamatory statements regarding an alleged rape should be dismissed by this court as a matter of law,” Habba said in the letter.

Habba also urged the court to deny Carroll’s request to amend the 2019 suit to add new details gleaned from Trump’s deposition in the sexual-abuse case, as well as remarks he made about her on a televised CNN town hall the day after the verdict.
So how far does anyone think this argument is going to go? Not very far

The one thing Trump has been successful with in his otherwise corrupt life is hiring attorneys to exploit the legal system with a deluge of lawsuits-- delaying justice, obstructing justice --- and denying justice to many. This is what lots of money will buy you
 
So how far does anyone think this argument is going to go? Not very far

The one thing Trump has been successful with in his otherwise corrupt life is hiring attorneys to exploit the legal system with a deluge of lawsuits-- delaying justice, obstructing justice --- and denying justice to many. This is what lots of money will buy you
That’s what lots of donors money will buy you! IMO
 

Trump fights to keep the word 'rape' in E. Jean Carroll's remaining defamation case​

  • Carroll wants to amend her remaining lawsuit by removing the word 'rape' and adding new alleged defamations.
  • Trump is now fighting these amendments, and demands the word 'rape' stay in the lawsuit.
  • His lawyers plan to argue that since a jury has now rejected her rape claim, Trump rightfully called her a liar.
Trump fights to keep the word 'rape' in E. Jean Carroll's remaining defamation case
 

In E. Jean Carroll’s remaining defamation lawsuit, Biden DOJ is now undecided on whether to back Trump​

Law and Crime
Adam Klasfield
May 29th, 2023

"With E. Jean Carroll still pursuing a remaining defamation lawsuit against former President Donald Trump, President Joe Biden’s Department of Justice finds itself in a difficult position. For now, the Justice Department appears inclined to remain neutral for as long as it can.

In a recent letter to a federal judge, the DOJ wrote that it “presently lacks evidence” to determine whether to keep supporting Trump under the Westfall Act, the statute governing immunity for government employees.

Both former Attorney General Bill Barr and his successor Merrick Garland previously intervened on Trump’s behalf on a narrow but critical question — whether the former president acted under the scope of his employment when he said Carroll was not his “type.”

[ ... ]

“If they say that the Westfall Act covers Trump, it will anger lots of people,” Epner said. “If they say the Westfall Act doesn’t cover Trump, they will anger other people and create a substantive problem in the future.”

Whatever position the DOJ takes would create its own precedent, regardless of the judge’s eventual ruling, Epner noted."


In E. Jean Carroll's remaining defamation lawsuit, Biden DOJ is now undecided on whether to back Trump
 
Lawyers for Donald Trump are attempting to block a long-stalled defamation suit by writer E. Jean Carroll by using her successful $5 million verdict in a different case she won against the former president.

The Manhattan federal court filing argues that Trump could not have defamed Carroll by denying her rape accusation in the pending case because a jury in the other case found him liable for sexually abusing her, but not rape.

The “operative question in this case is, and has always been, whether a rape occurred in the Bergdorf Goodman dressing room," the filing said, and the jury "found that one did not.”...
 
Lawyers for Donald Trump are attempting to block a long-stalled defamation suit by writer E. Jean Carroll by using her successful $5 million verdict in a different case she won against the former president.

The Manhattan federal court filing argues that Trump could not have defamed Carroll by denying her rape accusation in the pending case because a jury in the other case found him liable for sexually abusing her, but not rape.

The “operative question in this case is, and has always been, whether a rape occurred in the Bergdorf Goodman dressing room," the filing said, and the jury "found that one did not.”...

Splitting hairs, and stalling. imo

DT's defaming public comments included things like "“What kind of a woman meets somebody and brings them up and within minutes you’re playing hanky panky in a dressing room” Link

DT has been found liable for "hanky panky" (sexual abuse).

Jury finds Donald Trump sexually abused columnist E Jean Carroll
 
Judge allows E. Jean Carroll to amend her defamation lawsuit to seek more damages against Trump


A federal judge will allow E. Jean Carroll to amend her original defamation lawsuit against former President Donald Trump to include comments he made at a CNN town hall.

This story is breaking and will be updated.


The amended lawsuit is separate from the one tried last month, in which Carroll accused Trump of raping her in a department store dressing room in the 1990s. In that case, a Manhattan jury found Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation but did not find that he had raped Carroll. Trump, who denied the claims, called the verdict “a disgrace” and his lawyers quickly appealed.

A trial has been delayed for the initial lawsuit, as courts weigh whether Trump can be sued in his personal capacity over comments he made while president. On Tuesday, Judge Lewis Kaplan called on the Justice Department to make that determination by July 13.

“We look forward to moving ahead expeditiously on E. Jean Carroll’s remaining claims,” Robbie Kaplan, an attorney for Carroll, told POLITICO.
 

Former President Donald Trump's claim that a jury sided with him when it agreed he didn't rape an advice columnist in a luxury Manhattan department store in the 1990s was an erroneous interpretation of the jury's $5 million award and its finding that he sexually abused her, her lawyers said Thursday.

The lawyers urged a federal judge to reject a request by Trump's attorneys that he lower the amount for sexual abuse and defamation awarded to the writer, E. Jean Carroll, to less than $1 million or let another jury hear evidence about damages and make its own determination.
 
Is there a new thread? I can't find one.
ETA I wanted to post this:
Magical Thinking ! I love it ! :D They've coined a 'brand' new term for 'The Emperor Who Wears No Clothes', he's magically suspicious ! IMO and JMO.
 

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