NY NY - Irondequoit, WhtFem 14-23, 122UFNY, skeletal in shallow grave, front teeth overlap, Jul'88

[TechWriter797]

I called this afternoon and unfortunately no one answered at the Criminal Investigations Unit, but I did leave a lengthy message..so I know we're going into the weekend now, but hopefully we get a call back! I have in my notes to make sure to ask about using fg..it does seem that would be way more efficient than these carbon and mineral tests.

It would be great to get IJD featured in DNASolves. I'd donate to it and request that my friends donate also. She was found only a few miles from where I live and this case has always bothered me.

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Could someone call the people in charge of this case and suggest DNASolves? seeing your work, they could help the case.

It would be great to get IJD featured in DNASolves. I'd donate to it and request that my friends donate also. She was found only a few miles from where I live and this case has always bothered me.

 

[ziggystarshay]

Could someone call the people in charge of this case and suggest DNASolves? seeing your work, they could help the case.

Just spoke to the Sgt - he couldn't tell me much because I'm not law enforcement. But he did direct me to a recent town board meeting, from 3/15, in which the town authorized payment for further genealogy testing for IJD. Upon reading the summary, the PD is using the resources of NCMEC to upload a DNA profile to GEDmatch and Family Tree DNA (FTDNA). And he said now they/we just wait for our place in line for this to all happen. Gave no indication what that looks like - we know how long anything DNA related takes with other cases. I inquired about DNASolves, and he had just said they are working with a company on it, which I gather is the info provided in the summary of the meeting w/NCMEC, etc.

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

Found it. It's a public document, so I assume it's within ToS to post the information provided in it (bbm):

WHEREAS, the Irondequoit Police Department would like to use the resources of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) to upload a DNA profile to attempt to identify a Jane Doe case from 1988; and

WHEREAS, NCMEC has a working relationship with Parabon Nanolabs which allows them to facilitate DNA testing and genealogy at no charge to the submitting law enforcement agency; and

WHEREAS, the Irondequoit Police Department would be responsible for developing a DNA extract and facilitating an upload into the only two genealogy databases accessible to law enforcement agencies. Those databases are GEDmatch and Family Tree DNA (FTDNA); and

WHEREAS, the Chief of Police has been advised that GEDmatch and FTDNA are sole source providers of public genealogy databases for law enforcement users;

WHEREAS, because GEDmatch and FTDNA are sole providers of the DNA testing required, the Town Board has determined that these services fall within the exception to competitive bidding requirements per §51-5(B)(9) of the Irondequoit Town Code; and

WHEREAS, NCMEC will help cover the cost associated with this DNA testing. The expected expense to the Police Department should be no more than $1,200.00, which is available in Police Contracted Services budget 001.3120.4120.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board authorizes payment for genealogy testing in the amount up to $1,200.00; and

AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Town Board empowers the Town Supervisor to execute any and all documents related to this expense, provided they are approved by the Attorney for the Town.

This resolution shall take effect immediately upon its adoption.

tl;dr: NCMEC will help with the cost of getting Irondequoit Jane Doe DNA tested, and most likely worked on by Parabon Nanolabs!

 

[carbuff]

Good news!

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

Bumping thread with Irondequoit Jane Doe's NamUs exclusions:

MP2921
Barbara Cotton
04/11/1981
Williams
ND

MP7034
Beverly Sharpman
09/11/1947
Philadelphia
PA

MP55832
Patricia Wagner
10/20/1972
Hudson
NJ

MP2885
Leichia Reilly
01/31/1985
Erie
NY

MP6975
Lynne Schulze
12/10/1971
Addison
VT

MP20265
Valerie Smith
03/04/1981
Queens
NY

MP33036
Cornelia Enright
04/24/1969
Schenectady
NY

MP7266
Judy Martins
05/24/1978
Portage
OH

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Ingrid
Bauer
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MP20107
Mary Bostwick
07/18/1972
Tioga
NY

MP7574
Sylvia Lwowski
09/06/1975
Richmond
NY

MP26000
Mary Robinson
06/10/1976
Monroe
NY

MP11582
Barbara Bruno
08/01/1980
Monroe
NY

MP2876
Maryann Wesolowski
08/18/1971
Warren
NY

MP7828
Niki Britten
07/16/1969
Linn
OR

MP3259
Sheryl Tillinghast
09/24/1973
Dutchess
NY

MP2386
Lynn Bandringa
05/29/1967
San Bernardino
CA

MP4646
Robyn Pettinato
07/05/1975
Flathead
MT

MP5860
Marie Blee
11/21/1979
Routt
CO

MP19076
Sandra Breed
05/22/1964
Madison
NY

MP5665
Charlotte Heimann
10/30/1981
Monroe
NY

MP4532
Cynthia Constantine
07/11/1969
Suffolk
NY

MP5669
Lynn Luray
08/17/1964
Los Angeles
CA

MP4608
Rebecca Triska
09/19/1958
Beaver
PA

MP7081
Bonita Bickwit
07/27/1973
Sullivan
NY

MP10968
Linda Britton
06/11/1963
Guernsey
OH

MP7592
Rosemary Buck
08/11/1973
Onondaga
NY

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Unidentified: Town of Irondequoit, Monroe County, NY​

NIC #U340558028
Basic Information
Race: White
Sex: Female
Age: 17 to 20
Height: 5' 1" to 5' 4"
Remains Found: 07/31/1988
The skeletal remains of a female were found on 7/31/88 in a shallow grave behind 130 Bay Knoll Dr, in Irondequoit, NY. Irondequoit is in Monroe County, northeast of the city of Rochester. No clothing or other associated material was found in the grave along with the remains. The subject is believed to have died between 10 - 15 years before the time of discovery (Date of death: believed to be between 1972 and 1978).

Unidentified: Town of Irondequoit, Monroe County, NY

Remains Found: 07/31/1988

troopers.ny.gov

If you have any information, please call:
Monroe County Medical Examiner
740 E. Henrietta Rd.
Investigator Timothy Dubois
Rochester, New York 14623
(585) 753-5905
OR
Irondequoit Police Department
1300 Titus Avenue
Rochester, New York 14617
(585) 336-6000 Ext. 0
or e-mail the information to: nysvicap@troopers.ny.gov

 

[phantomstrider]

Unidentified: Town of Irondequoit, Monroe County, NY​

NIC #U340558028
Basic Information
Race: White
Sex: Female
Age: 17 to 20
Height: 5' 1" to 5' 4"
Remains Found: 07/31/1988
The skeletal remains of a female were found on 7/31/88 in a shallow grave behind 130 Bay Knoll Dr, in Irondequoit, NY. Irondequoit is in Monroe County, northeast of the city of Rochester. No clothing or other associated material was found in the grave along with the remains. The subject is believed to have died between 10 - 15 years before the time of discovery (Date of death: believed to be between 1972 and 1978).

Unidentified: Town of Irondequoit, Monroe County, NY

Remains Found: 07/31/1988

troopers.ny.gov

If you have any information, please call:
Monroe County Medical Examiner
740 E. Henrietta Rd.
Investigator Timothy Dubois
Rochester, New York 14623
(585) 753-5905
OR
Irondequoit Police Department
1300 Titus Avenue
Rochester, New York 14617
(585) 336-6000 Ext. 0
or e-mail the information to: nysvicap@troopers.ny.gov

I think if she was reported missing her report was probably lost as in the 50s and 60s missing person reports weren’t that well handled especially if the missing person is a runaway

 

[carbuff]

Kathryn Zedick? Kathryn Grace Zedick – The Charley Project. She disappeared from the Buffalo area in the early 1980s; if the estimated date of death is correct, she's too recent.

Sorry I couldn't get the two photos' sizes to match

UID's Namus and Doenetwork links:

122UFNY

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

Kathryn Zedick? Kathryn Grace Zedick – The Charley Project. She disappeared from the Buffalo area in the early 1980s; if the estimated date of death is correct, she's too recent.

Sorry I couldn't get the two photos' sizes to match

UID's Namus and Doenetwork links:

122UFNY

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

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Hopefully, we'll know soon enough! I'm hoping for a swift identification + an obvious perpetrator once the ID is confirmed.

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

Irondequoit Jane Doe was discovered 34 years ago today.

I’m so stoked over the fact that she’s been green lit for forensic genealogy, and that we might get some answers to the many questions concerning this case *fingers crossed*

 

[carbuff]

I've got my fingers all crossed so it's hard to type

 

[SimsGuy67]

Just for people to know, Jane Smith missing from Sudbury, Canada is excluded.

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

Of all the UIDs in Monroe county, IJD's NamUs is the one that's updated most frequently

*Bump*

Irondequoit Jane Doe's NamUs hasn't been updated in over ten months, which is a bit unusual considering how frequently it was updated earlier... I don't want to rush to conclusions, but I've also noticed that when forensic genealogy is used in trying to solve Doe cases, their NamUs rarely updates.

I'm also suspecting Othram's being sneaky again, since their collab with NamUs led to a boost of NYS cases

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

I have recently removed three Does from my signature, due to happiest of reason -identification. I can't wait to cross out the Jane Doe at the top!

 

[John/Jane Doe]

@Caring1 Hey could you post the current list of NamUs exclusions for this Jane Doe? I would greatly appreciate it.

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

@Caring1 Hey could you post the current list of NamUs exclusions for this Jane Doe? I would greatly appreciate it.

There hasn't been an update on her NamUs page since last December and is the same as in post #326 + Jane Smith from Canada.

 

[Caring1]

@Caring1 Hey could you post the current list of NamUs exclusions for this Jane Doe? I would greatly appreciate it.

30 Missing Person Exclusions

 

[NYanon]

Reading back through the Thread, going along with a possible connection to a criminal element, Sylvia Torgow seemed notable. As an escapee from Huron Valley Women's Prison (1970), it wouldn't be surprising to learn she had become involved with such persons -- whether through choice or a kind of necessity. Any physical resemblance?

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Reading back through the Thread, going along with a possible connection to a criminal element, Sylvia Torgow seemed notable. As an escapee from Huron Valley Women's Prison (1970), it wouldn't be surprising to learn she had become involved with such persons -- whether through choice or a kind of necessity. Any physical resemblance?

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Here is Sylvia Torgow's thread:

MI - MI - Sylvia Torgow, 18, Plymouth, 17 Sept 1970

Sylvia Torgow Nickname/Alias Yvonne Bauldrey, Sylvia Campbell, Vickie Boyle, JOyce Boyle, Lara Foster, Lora Foster, Lorrie Lorry, Vivian Boyle Wayne County, Michigan 18 year old white female Height (inches) 63.0...

www.websleuths.com