Discussion in 'LISK CLOSED General Discussion Threads' started by Salem, Apr 21, 2011.
Thank you and welcome to WS hanlfa80!
They're in the Long Island Press article, on the last page: http://www.longislandpress.com/2011/03/24/long-islands-other-serial-killer/
I got the Blue Point location off a site I can't post here, and it might not be accurate. Couldn't find a thing about them on line, but maybe the newspaper archives would have something.
Not being a working girl myself, I can't answer this definitively, but my experience with men is that yeah, the clothes guys like the best are the ones that are already on the floor. I don't imagine an exchange of money changes that
That said, I'm sure that yes, there are many occasions when the john wants a certain look, a certain kind of apparel, a certain kind of role playing, et cetera.
It wouldn't surprise me if ALC had another and much more...interesting...outfit on under the jeans and hoodie.
It also wouldn't surprise me if the jeans and hoodie was the look this particular john was looking for. If you look at her advertising picture on the escort sites, she's got a very casual girl-next-door look, quite unlike the more glam-and-bare shots.
I wonder if any of these girls could do all their business with a Cell Phone? This way a person could be in a Coffee Shop in Penn Station or GC terminal and hookup very easy. It would add a sense of Security meeting in or around People. Flash, give a large amount of Cash up front a girl would go anywhere. It works for the John at the same time. He could check out if she is alone what she looks like in person if he thinks she would be a problem.
In a case full of coincidences, the fact that this woman and MW went missing from the same area at about the same time is another weird coincidence that might be no more than that.
Was MW the one who was robbed on her way back home? ETA: No, that was MBB. Thanks, internetgirl!
i wonder if now that certain people might be sitting in jail , if certain missing girls bodies may begin showing up......
I find it really hard to believe that he could be in police custody for the last 2 days and nothing has been leaked to the media.
I THINK it was MW but I may be confused. Per the following link, MW's bf and baby's clothes were found in the hotel room the next morning. That is a new tidbit that I didn't know.
I have many distractions this morning interfering with my sleuthing:waitasec: so I'll have to locate a link to your question later. Or maybe someone who knows for sure will jump in and answer for us.
LOL. I'm a she-carbuff, not that it really matters.
I just mapped all the locations, then moved them around until Google gave me some routes that looked logical and convenient. It looks to me like he probably leaves from Manhattan or the Bronx, possibly picking up a victim on the way out, then commonly drives out the LIE before looping back. I think he dumps on his way back to town. The Manorville bodies and all the Gilgo/Jones/Oak Beach bodies are on the north side.
One death that isn't on the map is the UID torso in the suitcase that washed up on the other side of Long Island sound. The feet washed up in Cold Spring Harbor. I didn't include it for the reason you say -- no telling where that body went in the water so the one location we have is probably more misleading than helpful.
*IF* these deaths are all connected -- then he doesn't have a "typical" victim. There's a preponderance of very petite blondes, but there are also 5'10" 180-lb women, and all races.
I believe it was Maureen Brainard Barnes who claimed she was robbed:
"Maureen Brainard-Barnes got the train from Connecticut to Long Island with friends on July 9 2007. That night she called a friend from the New York Port Authority Bus Terminal. She was upset and said she had been robbed of the money that she earned that day. She told her friend she was coming home. She never made it."
The interview with ALC's roommate was touching. You can't fake that kind of emotion. You can tell he really cared about her.
An interesting contrast to the coldness of the Oak Beach residents, isn't it?
I posted this in the media thread, but very interesting article here re: the killer's profile:
I heard MW and her bf's clothes were left in the hotel, and thought that was strange. This is the first I've heard of baby clothes being left. So, after MW didn't return, AC just bolted from the hotel room without bothering to take his belongings? Doesn't add up. Unless he was arrested the same night, then he'd have to leave his clothes, I guess. But why on earth would there be baby clothes with them. If they took the baby with them (ewww!), who had the baby that night. Not Megan. If AC had the baby, then he obviously didn't get arrested. Unless he did and the baby ended up with social services, which may be the case, we don't know.
Very touching, I am sure his "roommate" really "cared" for her.
i guess when you really "care" for a female friend it is normal to help her sell herself for drugs..
it would never cross my mind to get her clean.
What a guy.
btw, her "roomate" conveniently forgot to mention in the interview the reason why many of her clients had "threatened to kill her".. because the little scam he and her "BF' were running in that house.
If he "cared" so much for her, why didn't he keep track of whom and where she was going to?
he was the one taking the phone calls..
why didn't he make sure she took her phone with her?
Obviously this ******* was more interested in scamming people and making money off than anything else.
MBB was the one who was robbed and disappeared from NYPA Bus Terminal.
MW is the one who travelled from ME with her boyfriend, and was last seen on tape walking away from her hotel in Happauge.
No matter the name for it I say it's a gift. Plus you're a compassionate person.
Meanwhile look at your post time to me. 3:33.
Or maybe the baby had been left with AC's family. I think I read somewhere that he would go visit family while MW worked. This is what I am hoping cuase like you said, EWW!
Thank you internetgirl101 and Mountain Kat for clearing up the question carbuff asked.
OT Dear bf is off work today and I am playing secretary helping him type letters, resumes, cover sheets etc. for his next project so I hope you all excuse me for being slack with links today! :innocent:
I had totally forgotten about that! :doh: Whew! I sure hope that's where the baby was.
So then, that puts us back to what might have happened to the pair that they wouldn't check out and take their clothes. We know why MW didn't return for her stuff, but why didn't he? He had to have come back to the room at some point, right? Otherwise, how would he even know she was missing? Maybe he did get arrested afterall and wasn't able to come back and retrieve their stuff.
Add this to another of those mysteries in this case that we'll probably never resolve.
I totally agree with you, Aleph. Not at all what I was expecting. That must be a huge emotional burden to bear, to know that something you could have done differently might have saved a loved ones life.
That said, it still bothers me deeply that ALC was never reported missing. I mean, I get it. Many of these people live on the fringes of the law, but there's just no excuse for not doing everything within your power to find someone you love who is missing. There just isn't. But I'm sure ALC's friends and family deeply regret that now, and will have to live with choice for the rest of their lives. It's just sad from every angle.
In other news, one day I'm going to take the time to learn how to quote more than one person in a post so that others don't have to read back to back posts from me. However, today is not that day, apparently.
"He is most likely a white male in his mid-20s to mid-40s. He is married or has a girlfriend. He is well educated and well spoken. He is financially secure, has a job and owns an expensive car or truck. He may have sought treatment at a hospital for poison ivy infection. As part of his job or interests, he has access to, or a stockpile of, burlap sacks."
“He has to be persuasive enough and rational enough that he is able to convince these women to meet him on these terms. He has demonstrated social skills. He may even be charming.”