NY-LI-4 bodies on Beach-Possible SK-12/10-All id'd,4 more found 3/11 #4

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Thanks for the 411.

Do you think this guy is brave/stupid enough to try and retrieve some of the remains and dispose of them somewhere else in order to keep LE from finding anymore bodies? I wonder what he's thinking now his victims are being found, and I wonder if he's keeping his usual patterns by going to work etc.

Hi Evelyn, Pat Brown's words come to mind, that this guy is now going to turn into the perfect citizen. I don't think he'll make any stupid moves like going to move a body. In fact if he still has stored remains yet to be disposed of he might be pondering where to put them.

Earlier I was thinking about him possibly interjecting himself into the case, more so than calling the victims' families like he has done. He evidently is comfy with dead bodies staying in his comfort zone. One thing I know about the death scent is that it can be sniffed up to 7 years or longer depending on the circumstances {Eddie and Keela, UK}. It is a combo of gasses that surround molecules and he's gotta know that the scent might take some doing to remove from shoes, belts, etc. You can launder a dead person's clothes and they will retain the matured death scent

No, I think he'll likely be Mr Good Guy. Hope he didn't hear Pat say that on TV :banghead:
 
Baltimore is very high crime with murders daily. I'm not sure LE in Balto. would even know if there was a serial killer on the loose. .

Strach I am from Philly. I know B-More unfortunately. Oh he*l a SK would run from there. They'd kill the SK.;)
 
The thing on top of the truck in the bing picture looks like...I don't know what it is but I think it is a GPS tracker or Satellite tracker I believe - they are circular and white. I've seen them on vehicles before. Does anyone know what I'm talking about???

Is it the thing they use in conjuction to the things on the telly pole?
 
Sorry for the triple post.

1.) If this is the same person why was he in AC? Vacation? He originally lived there then moved to LI?

2.) Could he have a summer home in Longport or Ventnor?

3.) Did he travel to AC back and forth between murdering the women in AC?

If you live in LI what are you doing in AC? Gambling!
 
Craigslist erotic section where they advertised has been closed since 2009.
backpage.com is another site with an adult section, that they may have used as
well.
 
Craigslist erotic section where they advertised has been closed since 2009.
backpage.com is another site with an adult section, that they may have used as well.
Well, sorta. They renamed their erotic services to adult services after public pressure in response to the original craigslist killer, Philip Markoff, in 2009. The big however is that they did not actually close down adult services until last fall. This time, under public pressure regarding that section being used for child sex trafficking. I provided the full breakdown wrt the above to include supporting links a couple of days ago. And yup, the more blatant stuff has moved to backpage. Though, you can still find it scattered throughout craigslist.
 
Craigslist erotic section where they advertised has been closed since 2009.
backpage.com is another site with an adult section, that they may have used as
well.

The erotic section on Craig's List may have been closed, but there's still a men seeking women section/etc. Naive to think it's not for sex, much of it "paid."

See below for the entry statement for this section.

"Choosing safer sex for you and your partner greatly reduces the risk of contracting STDs including HIV -- you can get answers to your safer sex questions, courtesy of staff members at the SF city clinic."

I just wish Craig's List would remove the personal section PERIOD. However, you're correct in noting that there are other online sources for prostitution.
 
More random thoughts on burlap sacks:

In the picture on the community website showing kids doing sack races, one of the burlap sacks appears to be a Germack Pistachio Co. bag. Probably unrelated to our SK, but where did the community get all these burlap sacks for sack races? They appear to have different company logo's on them (the only one I can make out is Germack), so did someone in the association have a friend or relative that runs a farmers market, wholesale business, works in a nearby casino or bar, etc., where they obtained these burlap sacks? If so, is it possible our SK also knows the supplier of the burlap sacks, or IS the supplier?
 
Good morning all, I posted for the first few times on the earlier thread but I wanted to sort of repost what I had written in regard to theories and possiblities.

I believe the new cluster of bodies found will not be SG. I believe SG was the only one who was able to get away, at least for a short period of time, and by creating all the witnesses and media attention she did, the SK will try to make sure her body will never be found and didn't place them near any of the others. That was his (or their) mistake, allowing her to briefly get free. I also think LE knows this, but is waiting and trying to connect hard, physical evidence to the suspect (s). The phone call made to SG's mom was an attempt to shift focus and create uncertainty about who was responsible and who was implicated.

Prostitutes who use CL and BP often are experienced, and can handle their situations. They know when something isn't right, which is what I believe SG figured out and made her run. I think when it's all said and done, whatever happened to SG that night will ultimately lead LE to catch this guy. It just doesn't add up, and I think for all we know about SG's last night, there's alot we don't as well.

As I said before, I believe the AC murders were hist first venture into this world of prostitutes. I believe he was able to drive along the "track" and pick girls up and goto a hotel with them. Once the bodies were discovered and the media gained wind of it, he evolved in terms of using CL outcall services and prepaid phones to limit his exposure and risks. He also began using his home turf, places he knew he could ditch bodies that would take a long time to be found, if ever. His confidence grew, leading to phone calls to Melissa's sister and the taunts. I believe he often frequented AC, or possibly traveled for work and was able to slip into the city and out without begin noticed. But once the AC investigation began to gain steam, he needed to steer clear but couldn't control the urge to find more girls. This led to his evolution, and developed a skill and methodical way to go unnoticed.
 
very good article... here is a snip.. more at link:

-- One victim was a child, perhaps no older than 5, discovered near the remains of an adult. The child was found wrapped in a blanket.

-- Another discovery consisted of a human head in a plastic bag.

-- A third set of remains showed signs of dismemberment.

-- One source also said that all of the four female victims found in December were strangled. One had an "item" around her neck.

The discoveries yesterday in Nassau yielded further clues, sources with knowledge of the case say:

-- A preliminary analysis of the skull and vertebra suggests it is of a woman. The four Gilgo Beach victims were all women who worked as prostitutes.

-- The other set of human bones was found stuffed in a black plastic bag. At least one of the recently found Suffolk remains was in a black plastic bag.

http://www.bostonherlad.com/news/national/northeast/view.bg?articleid=1330122
 
That is a good article Nurse. Thanks for posting it.

NJGuy, Our sleuths spvernin and Internetgirl have been sleuthing escort review sites for comments on the known victims. One guy stated that he got his start in AC and took a 'foot taxi' to a massage parlor where he had a great time. Then he says that there is no place like that on LI!

Anyway, just wanted to catch you up since you are still new and your post made me think of this. We all thought 'foot taxi' was a strange term for rickshaw, especially since the AC victims were found without shoes and socks.

That discussion would be on thread 2 or 3....can't remember for sure.

BTW, Good morning all!

wm
 
Newsday has a map that show all remains found on the North side of Ocean Parkway (westbound lane)... Is this confirmed? All remains on the North side??

Some here on LI use Ocean Parkway as an alternative to commuting on more heavily used routes like Southern State Parkway — east bound in the am and west bound in the pm.
 
It's always a possibility that LE is leaking information for some unknown goal. What makes you think it's more of a possibility now?
 
At this point, I'm not discounting anything. But I find it noteworthy that this SK seems to be hiding bodies in the apparent hope that they will never be found. That doesn't really jive with someone who is making phone calls (including one to a victim's sister and a second to SG's mother posing as a doctor in the neighborhood). The caller is someone who is taunting people. The person is almost saying, "Come find me if you can." But the person who hid those bodies doesn't seem to want anyone to find them. Otherwise, they would have been discarded more in the nature of the Atlantic City SK, who posed the dead.
 
Good Morning WM when I hear Foottaxi it sounds like walking to me, thats funny.
 
Why hasn't the missing girls 911 call released?

The way I understand it is, she told the neighbor THEY were trying to kill her. So are they looking for serial tag team killers?
 
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