What is bittrolf background Like?
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We have no way of knowing whats on the minds of LE. They arent going to go public with that. Except in the case of Sandra Costilla.Yes, the sketch is pretty darn close. Why was law enforcement so quick to not connect him to Gilgo and manorville?
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I believe this can be at the root of the murders. Curses are usually cast with a lot of strong emotion as a defense of being deceived."The first purchase was made in 1641 and the price paid was land was thirty needles, six hatchets, six shovels, six coats, six bottles, thirty eel spears, ten fathoms of wampum and then knives. It is stated in the History of the original Township of Huntington that the Indians were cheated by the whites. Its because of this that many feel that the land was cursed."
http://www.lipri.org/project/the-legend-of-mt-misery/
The same goes for Massapequa with the John Underhill Massacre of the 1640's. It's strange to me that Melissa lived on Underhill Ave in the Bronx, only to be lured to Massapequa before her death. And Bittrolff grew up up the road from the Poospatuck reservation, one of the only remnants of a lost civilization remaining on LI.
http://longisland.news12.com/featur...tifacts-found-under-lake-massapequa-1.6525498
But prosecutors say DNA in this case is the witness to the truth ...
“It happens,” said Suffolk County District Attorney Thomas Spota. “We don’t know everything of the dark side of people’s lives, but again, we present our evidence and we’ll leave it up to the jury.” ...
Bittrolff turned down a plea deal. ...
Despite obvious similarities, prosecutors have said there is no evidence linking Bittrolff with the still unsolved Gilgo Beach killings involving sex workers.
Less than two weeks before a Manorville carpenter goes on trial, charged with strangling and bludgeoning two women to death more than 20 years ago, his attorney said prosecutors have belatedly turned over evidence identifying 75 other suspects.
The list of other possible killers includes two Suffolk police officers and the then-husband of one of the victims, defense attorney William Keahon told state Supreme Court Justice Richard Ambro in Riverhead Wednesday.
Suffolk officer testifies about destruction of evidence in Bittrolff case
The Suffolk County Police Department destroyed evidence in two murders because of a paperwork error, an officer testified Wednesday at the trial of the man charged in both cases.
The department also destroyed evidence that might have linked one of its sergeants to the cases because it wasn’t identified as homicide evidence, said the officer, Linda Passarella, who worked for more than 13 years...
But state Supreme Court Justice Richard Ambro prevented John Bittrolff’s defense team from presenting evidence implicating any of the other 146 men investigated over the years.
Young John wouldn't have had a clue about the emerging science of DNA in 93-94 although it had been used to link cases and identify perps in the years leading up to that time. It wasn't until a year or so later when oj killed those two that most of the public was made aware of the potential of this technology in forensic investigations. The third girl who was killed and disposed of in very similar manor out east on LI was probably one of his also. Johns DNA wasn't found on that murdered girl but if it was even that wouldn't be enough for some. The jury did there job in this case and imo came to the right conclusion. He would have a lot of explaining to do if his dna was found on one murdered girl no matter what she did to earn money, for me that wouldn't be a coincidence. The second match leaves no doubt of his involvement.
2) The guy is a carpenter. Probably the least likely of any profression to commit a crime like that. He was accused by police officers, the occupation with the highest percentage of violent sex offenders of any profession.
Got a cite on this? From following cases here, it appears that next to truck drivers carpenters/handymen/construction workers are overrepresented in serial killer cases. Whole lotta reasons for that probably- the freelance nature of the work, the varied hours contractors work, the fact that some people with anti-social tendencies are going to do a lot better in a career where they are lone wolfs, for repeat offenders it's tough getting a job in an office etc. if you've got an extensive record etc. etc.
I'm not saying that sex offenders aren't also well over-represented in police forces (I believe they are, and most get away with *and* it's underreported because of this) or abusers in general, because careers that by definition result in positions of extreme authority over people are going to attract sociopaths and bullies more than, say, data entry would. But I don't think your average serial killer is more likely to be a cop than a carpenter.
That said, the SCPD is obviously corrupt and employs and promotes accused sexual abusers. Which is why there was a hung jury. But in this case I think they came to the right verdict in the end. (For reasons I am not going to rehash again since I stated why I believe this before in this thread a few pages back.)
... But in this case I think they came to the right verdict in the end. (For reasons I am not going to rehash again since I stated why I believe this before in this thread a few pages back.)
It's possible that this ends in a hung jury, I agree.
The screw-ups in this case raise a lot of reasonable doubt *if* the jurors don't have 100% faith in the DNA evidence (which IMO is pretty solid based on testimony that the sperm was determined to have been left within 30 minutes of the women's deaths- the only way to wiggle out of that is to assert that the DNA evidence was corrupted or the killer was following Bittrolff around: neither of these scenarios is remotely plausible)
"But Suffolk County Assistant District Attorney Robert Biancavilla said that while more than 50 suspects were tested, Mr. Bittrolff was the only one whose DNA matched what was found at both crime scenes. The bodies of both victims were discovered in wooded areas months apart more than 20 years ago. Mr. Biancavilla said a forensics expert testified that both women had sex within a half hour of dying."
https://riverheadnewsreview.timesre...n-accused-of-cold-case-killings-goes-to-jury/
"Mr. Biancavilla said both police officers were eliminated as suspects through DNA. He acknowledged that evidence in both cases were mistakenly destroyed and said it was due to a labeling error."
So I guess that's the answer as to whether DNA for either officer was tested.
What we don't have an answer for (but we all know what it is anyway) is why Officer Murphy was not only allowed to remain on the force but was promoted when he'd been accused by multiple prostitutes of rape.
Sounds like that's just been perks of the job for years now on LI.
From back a couple pages-
Believe me, I agree that there's a long and disgusting history of LE fabricating evidence and we see new cases where this is so all the time.
There was reasonable doubt for sure in my mind until the evidence of Bittrof's DNA being on both women (via sperm samples) and the testimony that each of the women had sex shortly before dying. I realize there can be lab contamination of DNA, and I believe DNA can be falsified, but the chain of events prior to Bittrolf's arrest doesn't lend itself to him being framed for some reason. Why would he be framed now? Why would his sperm have been collected as entered for both of these cases at some point when he was never on anyone's radar? It wasn't like he was already one of many POI and the cops framed him to make the case go away. I've tried to make the defense of a frame job/planting DNA/falsifying results fit and just can't find a way to make that work in this case. I believe that Bittrolf is a serial killer and was responsible for these two women's deaths as well as the third death he wasn't charged with (due to lack of DNA/evidence). I think the case was solved not due to hard work on the part of investigators (they screwed this up from the beginning as documented by the evidence that came up in the trial) but based on an unexpected DNA database match. In the end they lucked out, and I think if there had been a push for them to frame JB they would have done it in a way that could have made him look like the most likely suspect for LISK as well.
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“Have you ever used the services of a prostitute?” Leser asked Bittrolff.
“No, never,” he responded evenly.
Leser showed Bittrolff photos of Tangredi and crime-scene images of her dead body, found in East Patchogue.
“I don’t even recognize this girl,” Bittrolff said. When Leser showed him photos of McNamee, whose body was found in Manorville, he said, “I have no idea who this is.”
But Bittrolff seemed perturbed when Leser told him semen in the bodies belonged to him.
“To me? Really?” he said. “It surprises me, yes, because it’s not me.”
"Having sex does not mean killing," Tilis and co-counsel Richard Young Sr. wrote in opposition papers to the request for a DNA sample.
A Manorville carpenter firmly and evenly denied killing two women more than 20 years earlier in a police interrogation video shown Tuesday to jurors in Riverhead.
John Bittrolff, 50, kept his composure throughout the July 2014 video, even when he called his wife to explain where he was.
“Hello, it’s me,” Bittrolff said on the video. There were brief pauses between sentences as his wife responded. “I got arrested. I’m not kidding you. I’m dead serious. Two murders. From 1993. Two prostitutes. They’re saying they found my semen in them.”
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“Have you ever used the services of a prostitute?” Leser asked him.
“No, never,” Bittrolff replied. “I can get laid any time I want. I don’t want to bring disease home to my wife.”
Bittrolff married his wife in 1995, but he said he dated her exclusively for 10 years before then and was living with her in 1993.
I would not trust any evidence that came from Suffolk county police. There appears to be some that lack honor in the department and would find ways to cover their dirty deeds while throwing another to the wolves without a second thought. Suffolk county is the highest paid police department in the nation, I believe, and they can't seem to be trusted to do the right thing? Welcome to the new world order full of psychopathic zombies.
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