NY NY - Suffolk Co, WhtFem UP11774, 15-23, in shallow grave, ring written D.E.C, Apr'78

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  1. Romulus

    Romulus Well-Known Member

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    Unidentified Female

    Date of Discovery: April 2, 1978
    Location of Discovery: East Islip, Suffolk County, New York
    Estimated Date of Death: 1968 to 1975 (most probable 3 years prior)
    State of Remains: Not recognizable - Near complete or complete skeleton
    Cause of Death: Homicide
    Physical Description

    ** Listed information is approximate

    Estimated Age: 15-23 years old (most likely 18-22 years old).
    Race: White (with other ethnicity)
    Gender: Female
    Height: 5'2" to 5'8" (most likely 5'3")
    Weight: Unknown
    Hair Color: Brown, light and long.
    Eye Color: Unknown
    Distinguishing Marks/Features: Well healed fracture of right clavicle (collar bone) with resultant deformation. Bony lesion on the left fist rib. Metopic suture is patent. Fingernails (3) with reddish purple material.
    Dentals: Available. Ten teeth with amalgams. Impaction of maxillary right third molar.
    Fingerprints: Not available.
    DNA: Samples submitted - Tests not complete.
    Clothing & Personal Items

    Clothing: A brown leathery belt and a woman's clog shoe for the right foot was located nearby. The shoe measured 11" in length (top) and 10.5" (bottom) by 3.5" in broadest width (bottom) by 4.5" (top).
    Jewelry: A gold ring with the initials "D.E.C." was found nearby. It may or may not be related to the decedent.
    Additional Personal Items: Unknown
    Case History

    The victim's skeletal remains were found in a grave on a sandy beach in Heckscher State Park in East Islip.
    Investigating Agency(s)

    If you have any information about this case please contact;Agency Name: Suffolk County Police Department
    Agency Contact Person: Detective Stephen Jacobs
    Agency Phone Number: 631-852-6551
    E-Mail
    Agency Name: Suffolk County Medical Examiner's Office
    Agency Contact Person: Robert Golden
    Agency Phone Number: 631-853-5555
    [HR][/HR]Agency Case Number: LE: 78-105517; ME: 1978-0792
    NCIC Case Number: U980022051
    NamUs Case Number: UP #11774
    Former Hot Case Number: 2403
    Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.
    Information Source(s)

    NamUs
    Suffolk County Police Department
    Doe Link

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1068ufny.html[/TD]
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  2. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Kind of an interesting coincidence that Darlene Ellen Conklin has the same initials, is from New York, and is the right age.

    Darlene Ellen Conklin – The Charley Project

    She was LKA three years after the Jane Doe was found though.
     
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  3. Gardener1850

    Gardener1850 Timeline Guru (Still Remembering Cupcake)

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  4. Ibiz

    Ibiz Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.

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  5. WyomingSkyAngel

    WyomingSkyAngel Rocky Mountain Fresh

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    Those skeletal injuries make me feel like the UID was exposed to domestic abuse, as well as the impacted tooth.
     
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  6. Rosefinch

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    An impacted third molar is an impacted wisdom tooth. That's not something that's caused by domestic violence or any kind of injury; it's incredibly common and probably not much use for identification purposes except to rule out missing persons who were known to have had that wisdom tooth removed.

    The collarbone fracture could be a sign of violence, or she could have had a roller skating accident or fallen off her bike as a kid.

    I wish we knew more about the bony lesion on her rib, whether it's from a healed injury or from tuberculosis or some other pulmonary disease.
     
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    pineappleexpress Newbie

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  8. WyomingSkyAngel

    WyomingSkyAngel Rocky Mountain Fresh

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    I meant that a financially abusive boyfriend or husband may have not allowed her to get the the tooth pulled. Just an idea.

    Is the area near where this UID was found known for attracting drug addicts, or transients?
     
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    pineappleexpress Newbie

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    eekasaur Well-Known Member

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  12. GreyClay

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    Sheryl should be submitted as a potential match.

    The noticeable gap in her front teeth makes me think it may not be her, as that should be mentioned in the UID's NamUs profile, but the other physical attributes and circumstances match up quite well.

    Her height (63 inches) is perfect, her abusive home-life could explain the prior injuries, and she was almost certainly murdered in New York in 1973: she didn't return home as expected, there was a sudden ceasing of all communication with friends and family, she left behind all her personal belongings and two uncollected pay-checks, no further activity with financial institutions or on her social security number etc...

    The other thing to note is that Sheryl was not reported missing until 1998 so LE working the case in the 1970's and 1980's would never have been aware that she was missing.
     
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  13. eekasaur

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    pineappleexpress, wanna call it in for Sheryl? GreyClay brings up some great points to note to LE.
     
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    The ring had her initials 'DS' on it, I'm thinking it was either her boyfriend's or given to her by him.
     
  16. madamx

    madamx Well-Known Member

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    There is much more info on Denise Sheehy on her own thread http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Woodside-7-July-1970&highlight=denise+sheehy

    I also believe she is this very Jane doe, considering the ring the clogs and how this park is really not that far by car from where Denise disappeared. Unfortunately there is no photo of the clogs or the ring that were found with the Jane Doe to see if in reality the initials are correct..
     
  17. theshadow45

    theshadow45 Well-Known Member

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    A few possibilities: Cynthia Constantine was likely the victim of a kidnapping, she had broken her arm in the past http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/constantine_cynthia.html. Niki Britten was a runaway who allegedly went to New York after her disappearance http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/britten_niki.html. Helen Green was apparently trying to go to New York after she ran away http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/green_helen.html. Janet Kramer http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/kramer_janet.html, Joyce Brewer http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/brewer_joyce.html, Eva Ridall http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/ridall_eva.html, and Kathleen Rodgers http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/rodgers_kathleen.html are all believed to be runaways. Most have little information available so it's harder to tell what happened to Irene LaRosa http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/larosa_irene.html, Rosemary Buck http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/buck_rosemary.html, Mary Anne Wesolowski http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/wesolowski_mary.html, Sandra Hopler http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hopler_sandra.html, Rose Cole http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cole_rose.html, Patricia Seelbaugh http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/seelbaugh_patricia.html, Helen Allison http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/allison_helen.html, Valerie Cuccia http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cuccia_valerie.html, Sherry Pickle http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/pickle_sherry.html, Marylou Bostwick http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bostwick_marylou.html, Wendy Eaton http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/e/eaton_wendy.html, Tracy King http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/king_tracy.html, Maria Anjiras http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/anjiras_maria.html, April Zane http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/z/zane_april.html, and Karen Kamsch http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/kamsch_karen.html but all sound as though foul play could easily be involved. Wish we knew more about both this Doe and the missing women so the list could be narrowed down more.
     
  18. theshadow45

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    So far the only rule out listed for this Jane Doe is Sylvia Lwowski. Something to keep in mind about the ring is that she was not found wearing it, it was found nearby in the surrounding area where her body was buried. It may not be related to her at all. It's not stated whether the ring is a man's or woman's either, I'm curious about that personally.
     
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  19. theshadow45

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    Submitted Valerie Cuccia via NamUs.
     
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  20. masquerading

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    On the Doe Network page, it says she is "white (with other ethnicity)" - I wonder what other ethnicity/ethnicities? That might be helpful in finding her identity.
     
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