NY NY - East Islip, WhtFem 15-23, UP11774, in shallow grave, ring w/ D.E.C, clog shoe, belt, Apr'78

[madamx]

Rosemary Calandriello and Sylvia Lwowski.

Unidentified Person Case

Is this location anywhere near where the woman with the pig necklace was found?

Thank you carbuff
Oh wow only 2 ruleouts. I would of thought Denise Sheehy would of been on the list for some reason.

No the Pig Necklace Lady and the Muttontown one are closer both in Nassau County and NorthShore of Long Island.
This woman was in Heckscher State Park Its in East Islip which is Suffolk County and in the South Shore . I put the map maybe that might help better. Google Maps

 

[madamx]

Perhaps we should look for mixed-race, Hispanic or biracial profiles, as the profile of this UID suggests.

That is actually a good thought!

 

[madamx]

Perhaps we should look for mixed-race, Hispanic or biracial profiles, as the profile of this UID suggests.

It's a little far but now that you mentioned Biracial I thought of Sherry Ann Jones missing since 1972. It's said her father Was Puerto Rican and her mom was white.

SC - SC - Sherry Jones, 24, Greer, 1 Sept 1972

 

[Mysteries1974]

I think this is Valerie Cuccia possibly

 

[OggLurker]

Is the area near where this UID was found known for attracting drug addicts, or transients?

I wouldn't say that the area was known for either of these things however there were a number of abductions/missing persons (all but Cynthia Constantine were recovered) in the area leading up to when the Jane Doe was discovered.

I have been up to this location many times out of curiosity. Heckscher State Park juts out in to the Great South Bay and at the time there were State Troopers stationed at the entrance to the park. Whoever dumped the Jane Doe knew the area well. He was most likely a local. There are a number of access points to the park besides the main entrance. One of which, the closest to where she was buried is within sight of the SCPD Marina. There is also a public marina at this location so any activity regardless of time would not be suspicious. Coincidentally enough there was another body recovered a decade later just yards away from the Jane Doe's grave. This woman was also strangled.

 

[madamx]

I wouldn't say that the area was known for either of these things however there were a number of abductions/missing persons (all but Cynthia Constantine were recovered) in the area leading up to when the Jane Doe was discovered.

I have been up to this location many times out of curiosity. Heckscher State Park juts out in to the Great South Bay and at the time there were State Troopers stationed at the entrance to the park. Whoever dumped the Jane Doe knew the area well. He was most likely a local. There are a number of access points to the park besides the main entrance. One of which, the closest to where she was buried is within sight of the SCPD Marina. There is also a public marina at this location so any activity regardless of time would not be suspicious. Coincidentally enough there was another body recovered a decade later just yards away from the Jane Doe's grave. This woman was also strangled.

Oh wow interesting! Great info. I never heard about the other body! Was it ever identified?

 

[OggLurker]

Oh wow interesting! Great info. I never heard about the other body! Was it ever identified?

Yes. Her name was Patricia Costello. She was a 26 year old topless dancer from Brentwood. She was found at 6pm on June 1st 1986 by a horseback rider from the former Timberpoint Academy.

 

[madamx]

Yes. Her name was Patricia Costello. She was a 26 year old topless dancer from Brentwood. She was found at 6pm on June 1st 1986 by a horseback rider from the former Timberpoint Academy.

Oh wow thank you for the info. I never knew that! I wonder if it's the same killer.

 

[Mysteries1974]

Oh wow thank you for the info. I never knew that! I wonder if it's the same killer.

Even if this Jane doe isn’t Cynthia Constantine, she could be a victim of this supposed serial killer. Their are a few theories on her case right now:

1. ) she was in snatched by the business man suspected in her case and murdered

2.) she was kidnapped by the strange man riding in his white van in that area. Some kids stated they saw this man around the time of Cynthia’s kidnapping

3.) her father was responsible for her disappearance. The detective who worked on her case stated that he believed Cynthia’s father was involved in her disappearance. About a year after she vanished her father put a new cement floor on the basement. They suspect that she’s buried down there

4.) She ranaway

 

[LucyOso]

This is not possible anymore. Sandra was found alive this year.

She was found?

 

[Mysteries1974]

She was found?

Yep. Sandra was located earlier this year alive. She’s currently 70 years old.

 

[Mysteries1974]

There are a lot of women missing from NY that could match this JD.

3713DFNY - Linda Lee St. Germaine

The Doe Network: Case File 3DFNY

The Doe Network: Case File 79DFNY

The Doe Network: Case File 754DFNY

The Doe Network: Case File 2193DFNY

3626DFNY - Cornelia June Enright

1500DFNY - Sheryl Ann Tillinghast

104DFNY - Audrey Lyn Nerenberg

The Doe Network: Valarie Lorraine Cuccia - 138DFNY

 

[OggLurker]

Long shot but I figured I would share it here.

Rodney Alcala was in NYC during 1971 and 1977. Alcala is known to have traveled outside of the city for his "photo shoots". Alcala is also known to have strangled some of his victims. Like I wrote, it's a long shot but it might be something to look into.

 

[theshadow45]

This Jane Doe has been unidentified for 41 years this month.

 

[theshadow45]

Bumping.

 

[Gardener1850]

I'm wondering about this possibly being Elizabeth Palmer (She last wrote to family in 1974 with a postmark from Yonkers, NY): VA - VA - Elizabeth Ellen Palmer, 20, Roanoke, 25 July 1972
Her height and age are within range and she had long brown hair.

 

[theshadow45]

East Islip Jane Doe has been unidentified for 42 years today.

 

[carbuff]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Still only two ruleouts.

MP5909 Rosemary Calandriello 08/25/1969 Monmouth NJ
MP7574 Sylvia Lwowski 09/06/1975 Richmond NY

Did anybody ever submit Valerie Cuccia, Denise Sheehy, or the other possibilities we've discussed?

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Was Judith Brown ever submitted?

 

[MadMcGoo]

Distinguishing Marks/Features: Well healed fracture of right clavicle (collar bone) with resultant deformation. Bony lesion on the left fist rib.

I just wanted to comment on this detail since it stood out me. I’m not sure it will help in the search for her identity, but it will at least give way to additional options/theories.

If, god forbid, I were to be found as a Jane Doe, I may have a similar description on my profile. I was born with bilateral cervical ribs. They’re extra ribs located near the clavicle, above the normal 1st rib. Long story short, I ended up suffering from thoracic outlet syndrome caused by the extra ribs. I required surgery to remove one of the ribs, which led to them having to take a portion of my normal first rib also.

Both the cervical ribs themselves and TOS are rare and it was nearly impossible for me to find a surgeon who’d even heard of such things. And I figure the most he’d ever done was read about it in a text book years ago because he only made my problems worse and caused unnecessary fractures and abnormalities to my clavicle and first rib. Not to mention a number of other complications.

If these things are almost unheard of today, I’m sure they were even less so back in 1978. Point being, there’s a slim chance that what is described with this UID is a result of something other than your typical trauma (domestic abuse, car accident, etc.). My case is not common or typical, but X-rays of my torso would yield similar, if not exact, results to this UID’s. Just food for thought.

ETA: Other than complaining about pain a lot, no one would be aware that I had either. I would have likely remained asymptomatic had I not aggregated the TOS with strenuous activity. Someone reporting me missing, even now, might not think to mention any of it.