Identified! Oh - Eastlake, Whtmale 454umoh, 70, Alias 'jnchandler Iii', Jul'02 Robert Ivan Nichols

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  1. aThousandYearsWide

    aThousandYearsWide Well-Known Member

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    I also dislike the notion of 'they are an adult and have the right to leave if they please'. Same with assumed runaways. It's these assumptions that hurt investigation and early recovery of the missing. It looks like at some point they dropped Nicolas missing case which makes me wonder if had his case been listed on a missing persons site that it may have been solved sooner.
     
  2. aThousandYearsWide

    aThousandYearsWide Well-Known Member

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    I was reminded of Rasmussen's case as well! It makes me wonder if Nichols had more children or other wives. Especially in the 1965-1978 timeframe before the stolen ID.
     
  3. folieadeuxnola

    folieadeuxnola Lake Pontchartrain Jane Doe

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    Its possible ... I cannot say 100% that Nichols did not acquire a wife and children after leaving his family all thou it is my gut instinct that he did not. Not sold on Nichols being the Zodiac, however will have to say I kind of got mixed signals from LE on the possibilty. It maybe more so due to the fact they are as puzzled as anyone else why he was running ... there was a purpose to his madness. Things that make you go ..hmmmmm

    The Navy service and the known locations caught my eye more so as many veterans of military service are like a band of brothers. Seeking out any Navy vet friends that resided in the known areas maybe a key to unlock more details of his mysterious life.
     
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  4. aThousandYearsWide

    aThousandYearsWide Well-Known Member

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    I found another person that was once considered to be Joseph Chandler III. He was also a veteran who disappeared around the same time in 1966. His name was John Victor Dial. He has since been recovered alive in 2013 after he called his sister. This adds to the question though, is there some correlation with having served in the military to leaving your life behind on your own accord? And or obtaining a stolen identity? (Although, I'm not sure if Dial assumed a new identity)

    So far we have Terry Rasmussen, Robert Ivan Nichols, and John Victor dial who have all served in the military that disappeared abruptly from their families during the 60's/70's. Both Rasmussen and Nichols obtained stolen ID's and are suspected to have done so because of criminal reasons (we know this is true in Terry's case).

    Only thing I could really find on Dial (I discovered him from the Doe Networks resolved page):
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/whereaboutsstillunknown.wordpress.com/2013/12/18/john-dial/amp/

    Article on Nichols (might have been posted up-thread) warning! Graphic description of his body being found and graphic close up photo of his arm and back:
    The Man Who Woke Up As An 8-Year-Old Boy – MEL Magazine
    This article mentions a description of his belonging along with pictures of his apartment. It mentions something I haven't heard before..

    But this guy pretty much fabricated everything. He once told a coworker he married a Catholic woman. Another time, he said he married a Cuban woman who used him to get into the United States. Who knows what the truth is?”

    I wonder if his wife was Catholic. And if he really did marry a Cuban woman.

    Another thing I noticed of interest, I've mentioned Lori Ruff in this thread due to the similarities to Chandler. Colleen Fitzpatrick helped identify Ruff as well (for those that didn't know like me). I feel silly for forgetting!
     
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  5. PaulR

    PaulR Verified Software and Computer Tech

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    Some do. Good article about the Vets who live in the woods in Washington's Olympic Peninsula. Some since Vietnam. 'Stand downs' serve vets who live in woods near Forks
     
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    sillybilly WS Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Some posts sleuthing family/friends/innocents have been removed. It is a violation of TOS and may result in Warning points and/or loss of posting privileges.
     
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  7. rats

    rats Where is Justice for the Jane and John Does?

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    I'm pretty excited honestly about his identification. DNA Doe did a great job and I'm really excited they saw it all through to the end - if nothing it makes for an amazing story and really shows how dedicated they are. I'm really excited that his family/sons get closure. I'm not sure how he would have felt about it, though.

    As a side note, the organization behind his identification is currently in the running to win a $5,000 grant that could make or break an identification for another Doe or two, just like they did for JNCIII.

    DNA Doe Project Here's a Facebook post about it.

    Why We Serve 2018 | Aftermath Services You can also vote here. ("Ofc. Stephanie Bourgeois")

    I'm really excited personally because they've been getting a lot of press - especially after Nichols/JNC - and so this may make identifying one of the many (many many many) UID's they're working on easier on them.
     
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  8. Paul B.

    Paul B. Well-Known Member

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    Nichols didn't want to be found by his family when he was alive so this is one of those times when "give them their name back and send them home" is not what the UID would have wanted. Many of the female runaway UID left their families for what they saw as good reasons and it is doubtful whether they would have appreciated being returned to their families posthumously.
     
  9. Kano

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    From that picture he lived very frugal for having 87k in the bank. Side note: There have been studies on white noise treating PTSD which could answer his machine
     
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