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Thank you so much12pm
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Thank you so much12pm
I'll be very surprised, actually astonished, if it turns out he gained access to the house through the top of the chimney. He was a smart kid, probably figured out how to open a window, and probably the police already know which one. Maybe there was a cellar window he figured out how to open.I can buy into a 14 year old climbing down a chimney (I guess) to gain access to a locked, vacant home, but he had to have made it once to leave his jacket there, so why didn't he just unlock a back door or window instead of using the chimney (presumably) a second, fatal time? Using the chimney would seem like it would be far more likely to be seen...it's just so strange. Hoping the press conference gives some answers.
I know hindsight is 20/20, but I am still just flummoxed that a nearby, long-vacant home wasn't searched more thoroughly. Seems like one of the first things to do would be look in sheds, barns, parked RVs, vacant homes, etc. that are close by and would be known to him. I guess maybe it's just so hard to think of him right there and not found sooner.
Most unused chimneys are capped. Others have exhaust pipes in them. My neighbors’ cap came off and critters got in.Don't chimneys have some type of grate to keep stuff out?
NoonI am waaay behind here. This is crazy??? Do we have a presser coming? TIA
The below is quoted from a post by member lmr:
"Police searching home reportedly connected with missing Port Clinton teen
Reporter states that house was searched because Police Cgief saw a lock box on the home, realized it was empty and decided to search. The home is diagonally visible from HD's home. Reporter also states that he "thinks" most activity was happening on 2nd floor of home.
I wonder if he climbed in somehow and fell. Accidental death."
If the empty lockbox tipped off LE to the fact that someone had entered this supposed-to-be-unoccupied house, and we assume that HD may have been the one to open the lockbox, there'd have been no need for him to enter the house through the chimney. Although I do think it's possible they thought another individual (or individuals), i.e. transients, squatters, etc., had broken into the house for reasons entirely unrelated to the HD case, and only after they investigated did they realize HD was (or had been) in there....
Here's my (admittedly farfetched) thought on how HD might've accessed this house: if I owned a property across from a home where I regularly saw a young teenage boy, small of stature, locked out of the house by his family regardless of the weather/hour, AND I was not currently living full-time in the house--maybe it was getting fixed up to go on the market and mostly empty--I might consider telling the kid my lockbox code so he'd have a nearby place to find shelter if he got locked out in frigid temps or very late at night. I might even casually "hire" him to go in there occasionally to check on the property (pick up fallen leaves, collect any mail still being sent to that address, make sure the pipes hadn't frozen/leaked, etc.) if I wasn't regularly able to do so myself, thus giving him a legitimate reason for being in there if LE or his parents ever caught him.
Do we know why he didn't have his phone? He left for school normally I was thinking although a little early?Too bad he didnt have his phone. Rawr jmo
I'll be very surprised, actually astonished, if it turns out he gained access to the house through the top of the chimney. He was a smart kid, probably figured out how to open a window, and probably the police already know which one. Maybe there was a cellar window he figured out how to open.
What if he was murdered and they were trying to conceal him and thought chimney?If he was found inside the chimney, here's what is puzzling me. His coat was already inside, so if this is an accidental death, he must have been there before, maybe the day previous, and left his coat behind. This could make sense, since the grainy video image looks like he is not wearing that coat. My question is, if he went down the chimney previously, how did he get out? Climbing back out the chimney seems impossible to me. If it was through a door or window, why wouldn't he go back in that way? Very confusing at the moment, but maybe things will be clarified. MOO
Remember the family said Harley would leave for the night sometimes when there were disagreements in the household? I can't help but to speculate that he went to that house over night since he knew the people weren't living there. However, instead of just sitting in the living room because the homeowners could come home or people would see lights on, he found a place in a crawlspace or attic to hideout. That might explain the walls being removed. How he passed away is anyone's guess at this point. This is just a theory.
I still wonder what tipped the police off to look in the walls to begin with though?
If the vacant home had zero signs of forced entry & it was locked up & ...I would cross it off.
No phone - it was brokenDo we know why he didn't have his phone? He left for school normally I was thinking although a little early?
Was broken or taken by parents or both? I dont recallDo we know why he didn't have his phone? He left for school normally I was thinking although a little early?
I still wonder what tipped the police off to look in the walls to begin with though?
Thank you ma'am.No phone - it was broken