Identified! OH - Lorain Co., WhtFem, UP14921, 25-37, Mar'81 *Dorothy Leishman Wood Madden*

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  1. Romulus

    Romulus Well-Known Member

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    NamUs UP 14723

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/14921

    Unidentified White Female

    Found March 9, 1981 in Lorain County, OH
    Body Condition:
    Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only
    Probable year of death: 1979 to 1981
    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD]Estimated postmortem interval[/TD]
    [TD](1 years)[/TD]
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    Vital Statistics
    Estimated age: 25-37
    Approximate Height: 63 estimate
    Approximate Weight: cannot estimate.
    Hair Color: Unknown
    Eye Color: Unknown
    Scars and marks:
    Sacralization of fifth lumbar vertebra with unilateral fusion on the left. Bilateral septal perforation of olecranon fossae.
    Clothing & Accessories

    Clothing: Nothing
    Jewerly: Nothing.
    Footwear: nothing
    Accessories:
    Yellow and white striped contour bedsheet

    Identifiers
    Fingerprints: Fingerprint not available
    Dentals: Dental information / charting is available and entered
    [B]DNA: [/B]
    Sample submitted - Tests not complete[B][B][B][B][B][B]

    [B]Case History: [/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B]
    Skeletal remains found on rural land.
     
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    Romulus Well-Known Member

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    Romulus Well-Known Member

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    Bump for this case! ;)
     
  4. Gardener1850

    Gardener1850 Timeline Guru (Still Remembering Cupcake)

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    The only one I can find from Ohio that is close is Judy Martins: https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7266/

    Judy went missing May 24, 1978 at age 22. So she is outside the age and date parameters but if she were taken and held for a few years, she would fit the description.

    Her height is 62 to 64 inches so that lines up with the estimated height of the UID of 63 inches.

    Judy disappeared from Kent State University which is only about an hours drive from where the remains were found: https://www.google.it/maps/dir/1080...d9f3901cbcc433!2m2!1d-81.3414649!2d41.1490629

    (If anyone thinks Judy is a good possible, please feel free to submit. Thanks)
     
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    Romulus Well-Known Member

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    Tuck Active Member

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    Claudia Clinger is missing from Holland, Ohio. The main reason my interest was piqued was due to the recovery of a contoured bed sheet with the remains, and the fact that she had a job as a homemaker.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/25484/0/
     
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    Romulus Well-Known Member

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    From crimewatchers site forum

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  9. Al Ka

    Al Ka Well-Known Member

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    Sister of Dorothy Wood Madden has posted on Unidentified and Unclaimed FB group that this remains are being verified with her due to DNA hit. Dorothy went missing in 1975 from Loraine, Ohio, 20 miles where this Jane Doe was found in 1981. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/madden_dorothy.html

    Link to the FB post and discussion https://www.facebook.com/groups/1283293561759927/permalink/1460442997378315/

    Address where remains were located (from Namus):

    Address 10801 Hawke Road
    City Columbia Station
    State Ohio
    Zip code 44028
    County Lorain
     
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    Romulus Well-Known Member

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    Her thread

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...rain-8-Aug-1975&highlight=Dorothy+Wood+Madden
     
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    If this hit is confirmed and it is Dorothy Madden, it's another example of the difficulty in dating remains once remains are in a skeletal/mostly skeletal state. Namus had the estimated year of death listed between 1979-1981 and Dorothy went missing in 1975.
     
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    WOW! RIP, Dorothy ❤️
     
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    rats Where is Justice for the Jane and John Does?

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    RIP Dorothy! So sad for her family.
     
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    YaYa_521 Every Body's Name Matters

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    Al Ka, ty for posting this.

    It's a powerful statement from a family member of a long unidentified person who is boldly giving some very frank advice to others who may be missing a loved one and to all of us who could at any moment be in that same situation of searching for someone we love. The timing, location, and investigative efforts, and lack thereof, remind me not to take for granted someone's case has been thoroughly looked at, investigated, compared, etc. We may have more answers here in the WS threads and elsewhere than we realize we have but for whatever reason we don't push that button to submit potential matches. I'm using the term "we" in a general sense. I am certainly not implying anything negative except possibly things like self-doubt, influential comments by others, assumptions made about MP's and UID's having been compared against one another b/c "surely investigators looked at her/his case when these remains were found, right?" or "but she went missing just a few miles away, they would have done a comparison, right?" or "it can't be him. He went missing in (East coast state) and the remains were found in (mid-Am. or West coast state)".

    Personally, I think I'll be more diligent in following through on my hunches, espcially after getting feedback from other sleuthers. I get it's counterproductive to send a mass of potential matches without any real convincing facts or coincidences so as not to overwhelm investigators or deplete scarce resources but I'd rather know I submitted a potential match that wasn't one instead of wondering whether I should have made that submission. I have a few emails that must be sent, especially after reading this.

    TY, again!
     
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