OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #50

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Hey @Loomis124 I, and most likely others on here, appreciate how you keep this thread going. Just saying.

Over the past 3 years, it hasn't been easy, but it's so important to keep this discussion going. Sometimes it seems hopeless, but we keep plugging on. Tag teaming is great when some of us get busy. It will be interesting to see how much things pick up when the trials start.

Thanks, Loomis and CC for helping pick up the slack, same to all our other members. Hope we see Raisin again soon. She's been very ill, hope she's feeling better.
 
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CA you are correct, there is no MSM article supporting this theory.
I should have used "JMO", as it is just an educated guess.


Most days my mind is racing at full speed and I miss things. I wasn't implying it didn't happen, I simply hadn't seen it. It's all good. The only writing on clothing that I had seen was when RW took notes on her pants. Thanks for the reply.
 
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Did I here AC say that RW had one of the phone calls from jail on 3 way?
 
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Most days my mind is racing at full speed and I miss things. I wasn't implying it didn't happen, I simply hadn't seen it. It's all good. The only writing on clothing that I had seen was when RW took notes on her pants. Thanks for the reply.

Caylee,

Do you know for certain if all Ohio jails videotape visitation? I know that BW's jail does videotape visits.

TIA
 
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Did I here AC say that RW had one of the phone calls from jail on 3 way?

Yes, I heard it in the hearing and it was reported in an ABC news article I linked to a few pages back. AW was on a call with Jake Wagner and Chris Newcomb

Canepa said Newcomb’s son, Chris, who is Angela's half-brother, facilitated conversations between Jake and his mother. Canepa said Chris had Angela and Jake on speaker phone together so they could communicate.

Judge gives grandmother a break on bail violation in Pike County massacre case
 
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CA you are correct, there is no MSM article supporting this theory.
I should have used "JMO", as it is just an educated guess.
I haven't seen anything,but I believe that is the reason she isn't wearing
street clothes.My feeling was that RN or FW tried to slip a message to her in the clothes that were sent for AW.
 
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Hey @Loomis124 I, and most likely others on here, appreciate how you keep this thread going. Just saying.

Thanks to all, but you're all the real ones who keep it going. I work fulltime and just don't have the time to research as I would like. I appreciate everyone's posts, especially Betty's transcription while RNs hearing was live. Thanks to all!
 
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Thanks to all, but you're all the real ones who keep it going. I work fulltime and just don't have the time to research as I would like. I appreciate everyone's posts, especially Betty's transcription while RNs hearing was live. Thanks to all!

Loomis, I started WS at least 5 years earlier than you and you have double my posts so your doing pretty good.

My question is what RW are you talking about? I thought that I heard Wagner.

Do you have a short link to that video?
 
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All of you guys are beyond fantastic. The way you keep up with the motions, evidence, trial results, I could go on and on. Big thanks!!

Going into the "code words" or the talk between AW and RN. This reminds me of the Arias case when she wrote a series of numbers for a friend. They ended up being page #'s in a magazine where she wrote one word on each page, close as possible to the binding, which corresponded to the #. The words actually formed a sentence about his recollection of events. To change it, IIRC.

I always try to keep up, but, some of this stuff that goes on makes smoke come outta my ears.
 
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All of you guys are beyond fantastic. The way you keep up with the motions, evidence, trial results, I could go on and on. Big thanks!!

Going into the "code words" or the talk between AW and RN. This reminds me of the Arias case when she wrote a series of numbers for a friend. They ended up being page #'s in a magazine where she wrote one word on each page, close as possible to the binding, which corresponded to the #. The words actually formed a sentence about his recollection of events. To change it, IIRC.

I always try to keep up, but, some of this stuff that goes on makes smoke come outta my ears.

It hurts to know that these people walk amongst us. Murdering young mothers with the babies beside them. Eavesdropping and I believe domestic violence plus preplanning the 8 mirders.

So many lies all to gain custody.

We try to keep the forum accurate so thank you from one of your fellow WS posters.
 
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But not RW, as in Robin. JMO

Yes, Robin Wagner's name was brought up by AC in court the other day as one of the parties that AW was in contact with by phone. She didn't go into a lot of detail, but I think Robin was one of the people AW was trying to relay messages through.
 
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All of you guys are beyond fantastic. The way you keep up with the motions, evidence, trial results, I could go on and on. Big thanks!!

Going into the "code words" or the talk between AW and RN. This reminds me of the Arias case when she wrote a series of numbers for a friend. They ended up being page #'s in a magazine where she wrote one word on each page, close as possible to the binding, which corresponded to the #. The words actually formed a sentence about his recollection of events. To change it, IIRC.

I always try to keep up, but, some of this stuff that goes on makes smoke come outta my ears.

Thanks for that info. I didn't follow that trial closely, so hadn't heard this. It's interesting to know the different tricks some defendants use to control the testimony of witnesses in their favor. In that case, was Airas punished by the judge for doing that? It would be interesting to know how other judges handle these kinds of violations.

On another topic, it seems the forbidden communications amongst the Wagner/Newcomb family defendants and witnesses has led to a hostile rebellious attitude among them in court. From FW's arrogant attacks in the news media to RN's surly attitude in court and the general surliness of the other defendants, they all remain "united" in the belief that they're right and everyone else is wrong.

While FW blames tries to blame the murders on "ISIS", I get the feeling from the other defendants that they believe there's nothing illegal about the things they're accused of. They have complete disrespect for the Judge and prosecutors and seem to still believe they're not accountable to anyone. I'm not hearing much in the way of denials (with a small exception in FW), either.

JMO, that attitude they project isn't far from saying "I did it, I don't care if you think it's illegal and, eventually "The Rhodens deserved to be murdered". Righteous indignation (in their eyes).

It's interesting so far: no outright denials and lots of attitude that the defendants are the ones who have been wronged. A group dynamic among defendants may be more convincing to some jurors than an individual defendant trying to bluster their way to a "not guilty verdict".

Allowing them to continue to have unauthorized communications amongst themselves is only going to strengthen their bad attitudes and combativeness and I don't think that will help the prosecution or judge. To the contrary, it may appeal to some jurors. The court needs to make the W's and RN "toe the line".

They only have to convince 1 juror to vote "not guilty" to be able to walk free.
 
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what is Chris in trouble and who are the other 3 if I can ask. TY.

I went to this site to see who the other 3 are. Is LN the son of CN? If so, we’re just training generations. Lol
 
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Ohio Indigency Law:

FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE / AFFIDAVIT OF INDIGENCY
opd.ohio.gov/Portals/0/PDF/Reimbursement/rm_Financial...
By submitting this Financial Disclosure / Affidavit of Indigency Form, you will be assessed a non-refundable $25.00 application fee unless waived or reduced by the court. If assessed, the fee is to be paid to the clerk of courts within seven (7) days of submitting this form to the entity that will make a determination regarding your indigency.

Link to the form:
https://opd.ohio.gov/Portals/0/PDF/Reimbursement/rm_FinancialAffidavitOPD-206R.pdf

If I recall correctly, Rita spent days in Jail.

This could possibly be a different procedure than the W's.

Also, The W4 could not afford 2 Attorney's in death penalty cases or their bail if they qualified.

This is jmo. MOO.

IIRC, the W4 were not permitted bail. RN didn’t have the bail $ and had to figure out where to get it, which is why hers took so long.
 
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Caylee,

Do you know for certain if all Ohio jails videotape visitation? I know that BW's jail does videotape visits.

TIA
Gallia doesn’t videotape visits but it does in the jail. It records calls but that’s because inmates are behind glass, not at tables.
 
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IIRC, the W4 were not permitted bail. RN didn’t have the bail $ and had to figure out where to get it, which is why hers took so long.

There have been posters who claim that Rita Newcomb is not indigent. I don't believe that and that is why I posted the above.

I am sorry. I didn't know if you were agreeing with my post or not. That's the only reason that I posted this. Take care.
 
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