OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #52

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  1. Cool Cats

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    It looks to me like it says in the document, according to Jake:
    "Hanna and I took the actions required for my name to be on the birth certificate."

    So perhaps his name was on it?
     


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    Johnny B Bad Well-Known Member

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    Gerlach likes to play it off to people that he’s old and forgets a lot but Gerlach is smart, I just hope that the jury’s realize that Rita helped 4 Serial killers get custody of their granddaughter and to get full access to what ever inheritance, Social Security and property that SW stood to get, JMO
     
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    IMO, thus no link, but yes, I remember early on, Judge Deering telling the attorneys they were free to speak with the co-defendants or their attorneys, in order to defend their clients. Ugh..IMO, the Judge will regret this light decision. All JMO
     
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    Please...say again??? Last paragraph. Pretty weak case against which side?
     
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    Loomis124 Well-Known Member

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    Personally, I think RN and Gerlach have presented themselves in a most derogatory manner since day one. Either this pair is truly inept or have deceived the court (but not me!) as being mentally unfit to stand, and try this trial (Newcomb and Gerlach, respectively). I cannot wait until this trial starts tomorrow and I just hope the Jury can see through their dishonest tactics and find Rita Jo Newcomb guilty in all counts of her indictment. JMHO
     
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    JMO, but I don't read it that way at all. As a matter of fact, after seeing portions of some, but all of that one document, it is clear Jake Wagner was never named Sophia's father, nor was he given any rights as such. Why didn't he have his DNA tested is the biggest question here. IMO, too much baggage in his past and he wouldn't have won. Or perhaps...he is not the father of Sophia? Who knows or can prove?
     
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    Yes...he makes it a point to be whiney.
     
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    Canepa says this:

    "..The state cannot fathom, and the defense has not articulated, what relevant and admissible testimony these witnesses would have to offer in this case,”

    “It is the state’s belief that the defense only seeks to call these witnesses in order to impeach them or to force them to assert their Fifth Amendment rights and refuse to testify.”

    If Canepa thinks this then it means the witnesses won't say anything to hurt her case because they don't have any relevant testimony. If they take the 5th that won't hurt her case either because again, the Jury won't hear anything from them that is relevant in proving Rita innocent.

    Thus, if Canepa wants these witnesses thrown out of court because they could hurt her case, is her case weak? How could they hurt her case?
    I'm not saying she thinks they will hurt her case, but why did she put this in her Motion? It appears she doesn't want to cross examine them, why not if her case is strong?

    Cross examine the heck out of them, make them look like unreliable witnesses, turn it to a State advantage. Just opinion, there are various ways to "read" this.
     
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    perhaps maybe JW didn't have DNA done back then because he was afraid of the statutory issue because their age difference would have made it illegal. IMO. Just a thought.
     
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    It looks to me like it says in the document, according to Jake:
    "Hanna and I took the actions required for my name to be on the birth certificate."

    But your right, unless Jake can prove he tried to get on the BC it's just more spinning.
     
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    When was the DNA requested for SW?
     
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    Where is this quoted from, please, and is there proof that HR requested Jake's name on the birth certificate? If she had, there would be no reason for him to file such a document on April 28. Such a crock, IMO.
     
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    Amen, Johnny.
     
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    No proof that it was ever requested from HR or Jake Wagner that I have seen. Anyone?
     
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    BS, IMO. Let the trial begin.
     
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    It's in the documents here:
    It looks to me like it says in the document, according to Jake:
    "Hanna and I took the actions required for my name to be on the birth certificate."
    Just because Jake wrote it does not make that statement true.

     
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    RN's brief stint on the witness stand in the previous hearing and Gerlach's interesting and confusing attempts to argue in her behalf indicate it's going to be a real "crazy train" tomorrow. Be prepared to be confused, unpleasantly surprised, occasionally amused. :eek::oops:o_O:rolleyes:
     
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    So does anyone know if JW paid child support or was it another way to beat the state and let the tax payers raise his kids, JMO
     
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