Identified! OK - Hinton, Fem UP13729, 18-30, off I-40, bellybutton ring, Apr'15 Veneranda Flores

[KaylaraOwl]

Europeans wear their wedding bands on their right hands. At least the ones from Germany and the Netherlands do. My husband wears his on his right hand.

 

[Boopsquared]

Was there no DNA on that belly button ring?


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[Tssiemer]

That facial reconstruction is going to haunt my dreams tonight. How awful.


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[carbuff]

When I took an online forensics class a couple of years ago, one of the things they talked about was the philosophy of reconstructions. One school goes for what is essentially a caricature, exaggerating the person's most noticeable features and deliberately being unrealistic. The thinking is that anybody who knew the person will recognize them, and a realistic reconstruction can be misleading. People look at it and say, "Oh, she looks like my Aunt Gertrude, but Aunt Gertrude's nose isn't long," or whatever, not realizing that the tip of the nose is nearly always an approximation.

 

[carbuff]

A jeweler's article about the wide variety of customs regarding which hand to wear the ring on:
https://leonmege.com/rules-of-engagement/resources/right-or-left

Another article said that some gay and lesbian couples choose the right rather than the left.

 

[Tssiemer]

It totally haunted my dreams. I told you guys. I woke up at 2 am with an awful dream about this girl.


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[carbuff]

There's a lot of that going around.

 

[Inthedetails]

When I took an online forensics class a couple of years ago, one of the things they talked about was the philosophy of reconstructions. One school goes for what is essentially a caricature, exaggerating the person's most noticeable features and deliberately being unrealistic. The thinking is that anybody who knew the person will recognize them, and a realistic reconstruction can be misleading. People look at it and say, "Oh, she looks like my Aunt Gertrude, but Aunt Gertrude's nose isn't long," or whatever, not realizing that the tip of the nose is nearly always an approximation.

Great point. I think the long chin is a distinctive feature and might trigger someone's recollection. I hope so. I'd like her to have her name back.

 

[allmybecsloveme]

Identified. This woman is Veneranda Flores. I'm glad she has her name back. ❤

http://okcfox.com/news/local/remains-discovered-along-i-40-near-hinton-identified-suspect-arrested

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[mommylicious]

Identified. This woman is Veneranda Flores. I'm glad she has her name back. ❤

http://okcfox.com/news/local/remains-discovered-along-i-40-near-hinton-identified-suspect-arrested

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Wow. That kind of came out of nowhere! So glad they've identified her AND a suspect! Beautiful girl, looks nothing like that awful reconstruction. Glad she has her face back as well.

 

[carbuff]

Rest in peace, Ms. Flores.

Her Charley page: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/flores_veranda.html

Her Websleuths page: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?267665-NM-Veranda-Flores-24-Albuquerque-17-Dec-2014

Her Namus page was still up. It still says her DNA sample hasn't been submitted, but the article says it was a DNA hit.

There's also been an arrest: "After Flores was identified, agents were able to track down Flores' last steps and identified a suspect, 40-year-old Juan Gonzalez. Gonzalez was taken into custody at his Glendale, Arizona home on a complaint of unlawful disposal of a human body."

Her Namus page was still available; I copied out the case report. I'll post it separately.

 

[carbuff]

Namus case file. Kind of hard to read.

Case Report - NamUs MP # 28354
Case Information
Status Missing
First name Veranda
Middle name Anita
Last name Flores
Nickname/Alias Nanda; Vereanda
Date last seen December 21, 2014 12:00
Date entered 04/16/2015
Age last seen 24 to years old
Age now 25 years old
Race White
Ethnicity Hispanic/Latino
Sex Female
Height (inches) 61.0 to 62.0
Weight (pounds) 85.0 to 160.0
Circumstances
City Albuquerque
State New Mexico
Zip code
County Bernalillo
Circumstances
Veranda got in an argument with her boyfriend and left.
Physical
Hair color Brown
Head hair
Medium length, Dark Brown
Body hair
Facial hair
Left eye color Brown
Right eye color Brown
Eye description
very dark brown
No known distinctive body features
Distinctive features as described below
Amputations
Deformities
Scars and marks
Tattoos
Playboy Bunny on one hip
Piercings
tongue, belly button, ears
Artificial body parts
and aids
Finger and toe nails
thumbs unique different, short
Other distinctive
physical characteristics
Medical
Foreign objects
Skeletal information
Clothing and Accessories
Clothing and accessories are unknown
Clothing and accessories are described below
Clothing
grey pants
Black top with small jacket
Footwear
black boots
Jewelry
rings
Eyewear
Accessories
White beany
Transportation Methods
Vehicle make
Vehicle model
Year
Style
Vehicle color
Tag type
Tag number
Tag state
Expiration year
Vehicle comments
Airline
Bus
Dental
Status: Dental information / charting is currently not available
DNA
Status: Samples submitted - Tests not complete
Fingerprint Information
Status: Fingerprint information is available and entered
Investigating Agency
Title Detective
First name Dan
Last name Torgrimson
Phone (505) 924-6000
Website
Case number 14-118909
Date reported
Jurisdiction Local
Agency Albuquerque Police Department
Address 1 625 Silver SW
Address 2
City Albuquerque
State New Mexico
Zip code 87102
Comments
Images
Facial/case ID
Public viewable
Photo date Nov. 28 2014 according to her Facebook post. Facial/case ID
Public viewable
Dated Aug. 25, 2014 according to her Facebook page.
Facial/case ID
Public viewable
Dated Aug. 10, 2014 Facial/case ID
Public viewable
May 28, 2014 facebook date
Facial/case ID
Public viewable
Facial/case ID
Public viewable
Documents
There are currently no documents available for this case.

 

[allmybecsloveme]

Wow. That kind of came out of nowhere! So glad they've identified her AND a suspect! Beautiful girl, looks nothing like that awful reconstruction. Glad she has her face back as well.

Yes...she's beautiful!!!

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[shandram19]

That was probably the worst most horrifying recon that I've ever seen in my life...

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[Tssiemer]

I still have nightmares.


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[doublestop]

That is the worst reconstruction I've ever seen. Who did it, I wonder?

 

[Tssiemer]

I mean that reconstruction was of a dead old man not a young pretty woman.


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[cvaldez1975]

it is unflattering but Veneranda did have a longer chin and broad cheeks. only thing I can think of, is it was one of the exaggerated ones.

 

[carbuff]

it is unflattering but Veneranda did have a longer chin and broad cheeks. only thing I can think of, is it was one of the exaggerated ones.

Yeah I think you're right. It's unaesthetic but it's not inaccurate.


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[CarlK90245]

That is the worst reconstruction I've ever seen. Who did it, I wonder?

Harvey Pratt. Actually, he's a talented artist when he is using paint, or a pencil, or when he is doing Native American themed artwork. As a forensic sculptor though, not so much.