OK OK - Judy Weichert, 33, Oklahoma City, 28 July 1984

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  1. doublestop

    doublestop Member

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    On July 28, 1984, Judy Weichert got up early and went jogging; she was training for a marathon. Hours later, a passerby found her by the side of the road. She had been raped, stabbed 38 times in the chest and neck, and yet was miraculously still alive. One report says that she was able to describe her attacker to police before she died in surgery later that day. (Thirty-eight stab wounds and yet clung to live...amazing.)

    Her husband was immediately cleared; the case went unsolved.

    While investigating a rape two years later, police developed the theory that the alleged attacker in that rape, Jeffrey Todd Pierce, was a suspect in Weichert's attack. This was based on the Pierce's rare blood type, hair evidence, a knife and his resemblance to the man Weichert described as her attacker. This was before DNA evidence was used.

    However, the hair evidence was tainted in the rape case...15 years after his conviction in the rape case, prosecutors learned neither Pierce's semen nor his hair match the evidence obtained from the crime scene.

    And since they had based their interest in him for the Weichert murder on the hair and blood evidence being similar that of the evidence in the rape case, he very likely is not the killer of Judy Weichert.

    The question remains...who killed Judy Weichert in such a violent attack?
     
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    Richard Well-Known Member

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    suspect's description in 1984

    http://newsok.com/joggers-death-unsolved-one-year-later/article/2116148

    I sure hate to see this one go unsolved for so long after she fought so hard to live.

    He would be in his mid 50's today, was around Oklahoma City in July 84 and had access to a faded blue VW beetle.
     
  5. Rachael Smith

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    Judy was a friend of my parents. Her husband was my dad's best friend. She use to baby sit my sister and I. I don't exactly remember her, I was only 2 when she was murdered, but I remember the nDetective Bill Cookews ripping through my family. I remember being heart broken. I remember my older sister crying. I still to this day bawl like baby every time I listen to the song steve wrote for her. His heart break was never truly over. He died from cancer a few years ago. He was one of my favorite people to ever walk this earth.

    I knew far too much about the horrid details of her death far too young. She drug her severely wounded body through a barbed wire fence into the road. I would do anything to get her justice.
     
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    Thank's for joining us Rachael, and for keeping Judy's memory alive. Yes her case made an impression on me with the fight she put up and I'd love nothing more than for it to be solved. I didn't realize her husband had passed, he no doubt carried the pain for a long time. I really wonder if they have a dna profile on this offender. I know there's been talk of hair and blood used to rule people out but that was long before they knew to properly store and maintain certain evidence. Fingers crossed that they have something to work with although I haven't seen an update in years. For a while I considered Felix Vail as a possibility. He was a serial killer that, other than the age range, kind of fit the description but his victims seemed to be limited to his wives or girlfriends. He lived in OK at one point, Tulsa I think.
     
  7. Rachael Smith

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    I put in a call and left a message with the okc cold case unit. I'll call again on monday. I also have the phone number of an OKC sex crimes detective who i'm unfortunately very familiar with (he investigated a case I was a victim on), and I could probably get him to at least make a phone call if needed.

    I worry that when Jeffrey Todd Pierce was convicted of the '86 rape that they considered Judy's closed and trashed the evidence because they assumed him guilty of her case. But since he was exonerated in '01. Hopefully not. But if Joyce Gilchrist did anything with judy's evidence, its pretty much tainted.
     
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    Let us know if you find anything out please. Yeah I don't have a good feeling about them having any workable forensic evidence left. I think the bottom line is if they have a profile we could be somewhat hopeful, especially with the current trends. Lacking that profile not so much. She didn't have children did she? Any family or siblings left?
     
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    No children, but she has siblings and her dad is alive but about to endure hospice care. Her mom died a few years ago.

    I actually just got off the phone about an hour ago with one of her brothers. He said his brother got a call from a detective within the last year to let them know about something they were looking into. So that's hopeful.

    There's more, but I don't really want to put it out publicly until I know more.
     
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    That's unfortunate about the parents but the bit about contacting the family I'll take as a positive. I would also agree with not putting anything out prematurely or against anyone's wishes. It would be great if they could catch a break in this 34 year old case. Thanks for the update.
     
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