Identified! OK - Pittsburg Co, WhtMale UP5170 & WhtFem UP5174, 18-30, GSW, Apr'95 - Brian and Rachel Burr

[Meyahna]

This was an error. They sometimes do that.

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

This was an error. They sometimes do that.

An error that they where listed as identified, or an error they where re-posted as UID??

 

[Debbie Miller]

This error is unacceptable due to if they were id'd, then people's time and effort is being wasted trying to make pm's for them. LE's time is also wasted trying to locate the case file that has long been put in the solved file.

 

[outofthedark]

This error is unacceptable due to if they were id'd, then people's time and effort is being wasted trying to make pm's for them. LE's time is also wasted trying to locate the case file that has long been put in the solved file.

On one thread about these two, people were already looking at PMs. You read my mind about this because this was the basis for me sending the email

Here's my email to them:

I noticed that while archiving your website that on a November 29th, 2001 page from archive.org that Doe Network already had these cases listed as "Identified" under their original case file numbers of 116umok and 135ufok. I noticed that these cases are currently back in the Unidentified Victims section under the case file numbers 419umok and 332ufok- 7 years after Doe Network classified them as identified. I am curious as to whether these people have been positively identified and the relisting is a mistake or some other mistake happened. Could you please fill me in on this if you have a chance to reply?
If you want me to send you the archived page, I will gladly do that for you

Thank you for your time,
From An Avid Doe Network Visitor

 

[Meyahna]

An error that they were listed as identified.

 

[outofthedark]

I got an email back from Elizabeth Sinor concerning the confusion:

Hi Alana,

I have been told by co-Administrators that these two cases remain unidentified. However I do not know the circumstances under which they were originally documented as identified.

Thank you for asking though!

~Elizabeth
Doe Network Admin
doe.admin@gmail.com

That clears things up!

 

[Meyahna]

I didn't invent what I said I was in that org. at that time and I know that's what happened. I'm one of the very little persons who ever paid attention to whatever happened there and to what people there said so you can trust me on that.

 

[spiffy7]

I am very interested in this case because I live in the same area and looked at the house to purchase about 5 yrs ago.
Does anyone remember the year/month that this case was viewed on the Montell Williams show with Sylvia Brown?
Does anyone have a recording of either show? (their were two).

 

[Kymistry35]

Wasn't there a case awhile back, where the UID was listed as found before the person was reported missing? That has happened more than once I think. So I would not rule anyone out based on that fact alone.

 

[spiffy7]

What do you mean? The Markley's were declared dead.

 

[Gina_M]

Wasn't there a case awhile back, where the UID was listed as found before the person was reported missing? That has happened more than once I think. So I would not rule anyone out based on that fact alone.

I agree - I always take a closer look before ruling out by date. Often the "missing date" is the date "reported missing" and could be well after the person actually went missing. In this case, the couple went missing in December for sure, as described on the Doe Network - they sent their kids off to school that morning and made a bank transaction. The UIDs were found in April. (Assuming there are no typos on the dates/years!) Here are the updated links:

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2270dmoh.html
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2126dfoh.html

More info at Charley Project:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/markley_john.html
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/markley_shelly.html

UIDs:
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/419umok.html
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/332ufok.html

 

[Kymistry35]

Thanks Gina. I just wanted to point out to others though who are searching, that you can't always go by just the dates missing/found.

 

[spiffy7]

Does anybody remember the dates/yr of the montel williams show with sylvia brown ??Or a copy of the show??

Thanks!
Steve

 

[spiffy7]

Also, his age at the time was 36, the approx age of the john doe was 18-25. As well as the tatoos on the john doe. After talking with people that knew john markley, he did not have any tatoos (as far as they remember)

 

[spiffy7]

Also, the watch band that John Markley wore was found in his house after the disappearance. John Doe that was found was wearing a leather banded watch.

 

[phenolred]

Another Link for these guys this one seems solvable too WHO ARE THEY?

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seekinfo/ok100803.htm

 

[christine2448]

Has anyone reported Randy Seller as a possible match?? The outcome? If not, do you all want me to call and see about comparison? Have them been compared side by side anywhere, stats and pics?

 

[kygal]

I could've sworn that I read somewhere that these two were identified a couple of years ago... I guess I need to look at what I THINK the site was I saw that. Great, the site I remember reading it on no longer exists.

Second... you are right that Randy Sellers must have been into something all the time at school. Here it takes several suspensions to get that -- this is the last step before being expelled permanently from school here.

 

[Debbie Miller]

Wow, It sure does seem like the unidentified male and Randy Lee Sellers could be one and the same. Can anyone alert Doe Network to this? As I am not a member there.

mjak

Doe Network pm panel turned this down once, I had made this suggestion a few years ago.

It would be wise to call each law enforcement agency involved and ask about this.

If noone wants to call , I will do it. I have made a few good contacts in Ky.
Let me know

 

[Debbie Miller]

Has anyone reported Randy Seller as a possible match?? The outcome? If not, do you all want me to call and see about comparison? Have them been compared side by side anywhere, stats and pics?

Christine I think this is worth another call and get it from the LE's mouth.