Discussion in 'The Unidentified' started by Gardener1850, Oct 12, 2016.
This is a hard one because of where the remains were found-- they are practically on the coast.
Tarren Wolsmann fits age-wise. She lived a transient lifestyle camping various places. Last confirmed location was in Medford, OR, about a 3 hour drive from Gardiner.
Norma Cavilee is the right age and was last seen in Salem, OR (abt 138 miles drive): https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/32917/
Stephanie Warner is the right age. Last seen in Ashland, OR (186 miles/3 hour 41 minutes drive): https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/21345/
Tarren was arrested and released by Medford Police in December 2015. She is being sought by them and some people say they have recently seen her in the area.
Thank you for thinking of Stephanie, missing 3 years 3 months October 4. It is our fondest wish for her remains to be found so she can be returned to her family and so there can be an arrest and conviction. Her boyfriend and the suspect, Lennie Ames used her car for several hours from late July 4 to early morning July 5, 2013. I don't think there was time for him to make an almost seven hour round trip. Further information is available in the links in my signature.
Thanks for giving more info on Stephanie's case!
We don't know exact location the remains were found or even if they have an entire skeleton. I'm guessing since they have not estimated height for this one they may only have partial remains. I don't know how far a body could travel in a winding river. Umpqua looks like it is quite long though. Here is a map showing where Gardiner is located and you can see how winding Umpqua is: https://www.google.com/maps/place/G...4113ca492f2d5c!8m2!3d43.7302934!4d-124.110418
The Umpqua crosses hwy 5 at several points. The northernmost crossing is 108 miles (abt 1 hour 45 Minutes) from Ashland: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/43....8782df1ad!2m2!1d-122.7094767!2d42.1945758!3e0
The southernmost crossing of the Umpqua and Hwy 5 is abt 98 miles (abt 1 hour 23 minute drive) from Ashland: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Ash...df1ad!2m2!1d-122.7094767!2d42.1945758!1m0!3e0
While it's not impossible, I think it's a stretch to say she was put in the river and traveled almost to the ocean. Maybe if there was flooding or heavy rains?
Also, I'm not sure which direction the Umpqua flows, this is all assuming it flows toward the ocean.
According to the article, one of the 47 missing Oregon women in the age range is from Douglas county.
Looking through NAMUS listings for Oregon, I guess we need to go outside the three years because a person could have been missing for several years before dying. I certainly don't see 47 listings in the past three years.
Renee Zeller, missing since early 2012, left a suicide note and said she may go to the Oregon coast.
I agree about the Umpqua after checking a map and deleted that part of my post while you were writing your post. You'd think that I'd know this, living in Oregon! Wishful thinking, I guess.
Renee Zeller looks like a good guess.
I don't see that many missing that fit the criteria either and criteria is rather broad considering they don't have a race or height/weight.
The other problem is that this could be a woman visiting from another state. I guess we wait for the DNA and dental record results to come back and hope they identify the woman. Based on other cases, I'd say we're looking at many, many months.
The Oregon State Medical Examiner's Office will continue its investigation in an attempt to identify the remains through DNA and dental records. This process, according to the sheriff's office, is expected to take a significant amount of time.
I agree it could be a long wait for DNA. When I saw how close it was to the ocean I thought someone could have brought her there by boat. She could be from anywhere.
Hoping she can be swiftly identified!
Namus UP 15871
Unidentified White Female
Found October 6, 2016 in Douglas County, OR
Body Condition: Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only
Probable year of death: 2013 to 2016
Estimated postmortem interval: 1 years
Estimated age: 35-55
Approximate Height: cannot estimate.
Approximate Weight: cannot estimate.
Hair Color: unknown
Eye Color: Unknown
Scars and marks: unknown
Clothing & Accessories
Accessories: Two metal water bottles, one with writing/logo for the 2010 class alumni of the University of Puget Sound. Black nylon backpack with numerous items: two dark colored t-shirts, a light colored long shirt/dress, purple above-the-knee length socks, a crochet scarf (black with orange or pink), a crotchet slouch-cap (orange with two brown bands near the hem, tennis shoes. All items small to medium in size.
Fingerprints: Fingerprint information is not available
Dentals: Dental information / charting is available and entered
DNA: Samples submitted - Tests not complete
Case History: The remains of an adult female were discovered in a coastal region of the Umpqua River near Gardiner, Oregon.
White female, consistent age, matching timeline from the same county.
It's driving me crazy that I can't read all of the words on the water bottle!
In the picture of the other objects found, the yellow cylinder in the upper right is Burt's Bees lip balm and the bottle just below the sunglasses is Bach's Rescue Remedy (flower essences meant for stress reduction).
There's another site with info on Teresa. I can't post it here, but it comes us when you search for her name and click on one of the pictures.
I private messaged an admin for the puget sound 2010 alumni group,on facebook, to see if they might be interested in sharing her info. Waiting to hear back.
This is just my opinion but, i believe the water bottle says "congratulate me
University of Puget Sound "
Separate names with a comma.