Discussion in 'Oscar Pistorius' started by KateB, Jul 15, 2015.
Certainly one possibility. Bit stupid to think wiping the phone wouldn't be noticed though...
.....possibly whatever was on there went over that consideration .........
.....use your imagination ......
Can't elaborate?/won't elaborate?
I think: without wiping the phone he certainly would have been convicted as a murderer, the evidence visible to everyone.
Why? what was on it that would show he was a murderer?
Yes. OP's brother went to a lot of trouble to get the phone wiped. Of course, between him wiping the phone, and Aimee removing Reeva's bag without permission, both siblings showed little respect for the crime scene or Reeva. I'd be interested to know if any OP supporters would be happy with that if their own sister/daughter/friend had been shot dead in suspicious circumstances, and then they found out the killer's brother and sister had been busy at the crime scene removing and/or tampering with evidence...
I see what you mean but look at the different attitudes to the articles. Posters routinely post articles and then say how awful OP is based on the unconfirmed information in those articles. Another approach is to say that you take these things as unconfirmed and to stick to what was said in court because both sides had the chance to contest what the other said.
In court cases, the media tend to emphasise the prosecution case because it's more interesting and the defence's 'no, I didn't do that' is not exactly exciting stuff. In court both sides are treated equally. This is another difference - if you get your information from the media and aren't cautious about why the media are reporting things as they are, you will get a pro-prosecution view imo.
Oh dear. Are you implying that Carl went to all that trouble to delete the contents and sync it with his own computer because there was nothing incriminating on it? You can find it all innocent if you like, but there comes a time when defending the indefensible gets tiresome. I trust if a loved one of yours get shot dead, you'll show the killer the same unwavering loyalty and support that you've shown OP, even when the killer's family remove evidence from the crime scene.
Ah well, I don't watch CNN. If you say it was like that I can't disagree as I've not watched it. Then again, are you sure they didn't just report the case without taking sides, something that seems to result in accusations of pro-Pistorius bias.
I'm talking about the kind of manufactured outrage that finds everything he does shocking and disgraceful. I wasn't talking about the shooting, as you know very well if you read my post.
IMO anyone who invests high emotion in this case is in the very worst position to cast judgement.
You can't have read my earlier post where I said the whole phone wiping thing was dubious then...?
Your post mis-characterises what other posters are saying. I think the attitudes of the two groups of posters would be better summed up as:
- those who take everything as proof of guilt and believe everything negative they read no matter what the provenance, it seems
- those who don't think the state made it's case and are cautious about jumping to conclusions about a person they don't know based on uncertain evidence contained in media reports
You shouldn't be casting judgement then...
....and why that particular phone because there were many phones in the apartment .......
Alot of folks invest high emotions in many cases in this forum. I think that is normal as we all want justice for the victims. Judgment is up to someone else IMO. But I also feel he killed this woman on purpose and knew exactly what he was doing. His money has always gotten him special favors and out of trouble just like a few other criminals we all know. I'm sure he will screw up again. JMO
....a very simplistic and undeinably elitist post which clearly undermines the motives of posters......if not this site.....
BIB - I don't see either of those groups here.
I see one group who doesn't believe OP's ridiculously far-fetched fairytale (not helped by all his lies) and the other group desperately searching for any possible explanation to explain away the Grand Canyon sized holes in OP's version/versions.
As for me, I've never claimed to be impartial. I watched the entire trial and believe OP deliberately killed Reeva and got away with murder, no doubt helped by his brother and sister removing evidence from the crime scene.
In all honesty people who jack with crime scenes or evidence...Cindy Anthony comes to mind, should also have some charges brought against them.