P.I. Never paid by Anthony Family

[faefrost]

I can't imagine DC would work for Baez without a payment agreement of some sort, if he was behind on his mortgage, etc. The story says the Baez law firm "never paid DC". Does that mean they were supposed to, but didn't, so he went running to the Anthonys? And they haven't paid him yet EITHER??? No wonder he never told them about his escapade in the woods!! :crazy:

If DC did not get paid by JB, and had no written agreement that can be produced by anyone, then (and please someone please please please correct me if I am wrong), he is not a subject of JB's attorney work product privelege. Anything he did, is not considered work product to the case. And any conversations he had with JB are not privileged, and any conversations he witnessed between KC and JB are no longer protected by privilege.

I understand that KC is the one who holds the privilege. Not ultimately JB. But he is the one that has been retained to manage it. He is her qualified legal representation. But ultimately the responsibility for seeing that all parties get paid for services does reside with the client. Workers have the right to publicly say what they did in the case or investigation in order to dispute or recieve their payment. This is why as a lawyer you do not hire outside specialists until or unless you know exactly how they are going to be paid. This is yet another reason why criminal lawyers are not allowed to operate on contingency fees or compensation. WHich more and more it keeps looking like what Baez is doing.

 

[twomanywords]

Why has the whole topic of DC being told not to call 911 dropped like hot potato????

 

[debs]

Perhaps it was a "services rendered" sort of contract.

 

[cecybeans]

Another member and I were talking last night about this situation. Obviously there is no work product privilege between DC and the Anthonys as neither of them are attorneys. Supposedly that confidentiality would apply to DC and JB. However, if JB did not pay DC for services due, and that voids or nullifies his contract, would that also therefore, nullify any work product privilege?

 

[Paintr]

Another member and I were talking last night about this situation. Obviously there is no work product privilege between DC and the Anthonys as neither of them are attorneys. Supposedly that confidentiality would apply to DC and JB. However, if JB did not pay DC for services due, and that voids or nullifies his contract, would that also therefore, nullify any work product privilege?

When the subject of DC being questioned by LE first cropped up didn't JB want a judge to monitor the questions to protect work product? Why would he want to involve a judge if he knew there was a chance of revealing there was no work product at all?

 

[The World According]

I know this may be stretching, but I was thinking of the Haleigh C case today. When Haleigh went missing, George showed up 'to help'. D Casey, the PI, showed up 'to help'. Did KFN ever show up, billboard in tow?

Grandfather apparently asked George to leave. He and Cindy made one more appearance and then backed off.

D Casey suddenly had troubles with the courts and LE and he faded away.

I may be too suspicious but I wonder if this 'offering to help' was the trial run to get the new Anthony/ KFN partnership off the ground. George going in as front man, making friends and giving sympathy. Surprise! George knows a good PI. He can help. Enter DC. Then George says... meet the organization that helped us when we lost Caylee. Enter KFN.

Now everyone is involved. Donations are rolling in. There are lots of missing kids, so on to the next. And the donations keep rolling on too. What a way to make a living!

But thanks to Grandpa and J Morgan's deposition questions about DC, this plan had to be aborted. I wonder if it will be resurrected somewhere down the line? Will this threesome of GA,DC,and KFN move in smoothly on other tragic events?

Of course, I could be so far off the truth that I might as well be orbiting Jupiter. LOL! It was just a random thought.

When you listen to the interviews, Casey, Hoover and the A family admit that M Bart from KFN set up the sale of the videos of the baby to ABC and also the Ritz Carlton for the a family AND Dominick/Hoover (ever wonder why them too). Casey lied to the police about having a meeting with the ABC rep at the hotel until they told him he is on tape there for an hour! I learned here on WS that M Bart from KFN writes articles on places like the Huffington Post, entitled things like Did, JG, the ex boyfriend kill Caylee . So yes, it is a very tight knit group and will continue to be. I was incredulous that the As tried to tell the judge it was too raw, they were in no shape for any public speaking (to delay the depo) when they had been out on a soap box with a bullhorn volunteering in the other case! I see now where KC gets the nerve to tell lies that are so extremely easily disproved, like "I work here at Universal, down this hallway is my office!" Did they think the judge or anyone on his staff hadn't seen them on the news? After all the lies they told in their depo, they are no longer seen as sympathetic figures as they were at the memorial, in fact I don't think they would be welcome at any site of a missing child. It pains me to say it, but they will never be taken seriously again, and there is a very real credibility problem now with the KFN because of this "appearance of impropriety." I don't read that particular paper, but if anyone from the KFN is out there publishing such things against a good kid Jesse, I would never trust them or donate to them. I hope it isn't true. Do any of you know?

 

[Paintr]

When you listen to the interviews, Casey, Hoover and the A family admit that M Bart from KFN set up the sale of the videos of the baby to ABC and also the Ritz Carlton for the a family AND Dominick/Hoover (ever wonder why them too). Casey lied to the police about having a meeting with the ABC rep at the hotel until they told him he is on tape there for an hour! I learned here on WS that M Bart from KFN writes articles on places like the Huffington Post, entitled things like Did, JG, the ex boyfriend kill Caylee . So yes, it is a very tight knit group and will continue to be. I was incredulous that the As tried to tell the judge it was too raw, they were in no shape for any public speaking (to delay the depo) when they had been out on a soap box with a bullhorn volunteering in the other case! I see now where KC gets the nerve to tell lies that are so extremely easily disproved, like "I work here at Universal, down this hallway is my office!" Did they think the judge or anyone on his staff hadn't seen them on the news? After all the lies they told in their depo, they are no longer seen as sympathetic figures as they were at the memorial, in fact I don't think they would be welcome at any site of a missing child. It pains me to say it, but they will never be taken seriously again, and there is a very real credibility problem now with the KFN because of this "appearance of impropriety." I don't read that particular paper, but if anyone from the KFN is out there publishing such things against a good kid Jesse, I would never trust them or donate to them. I hope it isn't true. Do any of you know?

I did wonder why DC was included in the night at the Ritz. Or maybe I should say the three nights at the Ritz. Did the Anthonys consider him a bodyguard? I am sure the Ritz has great security conisidering the rich and famous who stay there. Why was Dc included? J Hoover was brought along only for one night if I read his interviews correctly.

R Grund said he was hiring a PI to look into accusations against Jesse. He also said there was a concentrated effort on the internet to point the fingure of guilt at his son. Perhaps the man is correct. We know there were pages printed from forums in the Anthony's garbage.

 

[OneLostGrl]

I did wonder why DC was included in the night at the Ritz. Or maybe I should say the three nights at the Ritz. Did the Anthonys consider him a bodyguard? I am sure the Ritz has great security conisidering the rich and famous who stay there. Why was Dc included? J Hoover was brought along only for one night if I read his interviews correctly.

R Grund said he was hiring a PI to look into accusations against Jesse. He also said there was a concentrated effort on the internet to point the fingure of guilt at his son. Perhaps the man is correct. We know there were pages printed from forums in the Anthony's garbage.

I believe what we have heard about Cindy and DC. The woman who blogged about it on her myspace is a long time member here who has never given us bad info. So while it's j"ust a rumor", I have to say it is the one and only rumor I believe.

I have always felt KFN, Michelle B and DC are all connected. Who knows though. One last thing- if these people think we are going to think Jesse killed Caylee just because they have people posting online trying to make us think he did, they must think we are stupid as they are- too bad we aren't!

 

[CarolinaMoon]

I believe what we have heard about Cindy and DC. The woman who blogged about it on her myspace is a long time member here who has never given us bad info. So while it's j"ust a rumor", I have to say it is the one and only rumor I believe.

I have always felt KFN, Michelle B and DC are all connected. Who knows though. One last thing- if these people think we are going to think Jesse killed Caylee just because they have people posting online trying to make us think he did, they must think we are stupid as they are- too bad we aren't!

Absolutely, positively... you are so on the right track there! :blowkiss:

 

[Anniegirl]

As much publicity and all this case has stirred .. I can see the A's not needing to "pay" for much of anything. :furious: Cindy's bills..etc even all being paid. grrrrrrrrrrr


Casey may just 'pay ' with her life though. Something i am in support of in this case.

 

[Searchfortruth]

When you listen to the interviews, Casey, Hoover and the A family admit that M Bart from KFN set up the sale of the videos of the baby to ABC and also the Ritz Carlton for the a family AND Dominick/Hoover (ever wonder why them too). Casey lied to the police about having a meeting with the ABC rep at the hotel until they told him he is on tape there for an hour! I learned here on WS that M Bart from KFN writes articles on places like the Huffington Post, entitled things like Did, JG, the ex boyfriend kill Caylee . So yes, it is a very tight knit group and will continue to be. I was incredulous that the As tried to tell the judge it was too raw, they were in no shape for any public speaking (to delay the depo) when they had been out on a soap box with a bullhorn volunteering in the other case! I see now where KC gets the nerve to tell lies that are so extremely easily disproved, like "I work here at Universal, down this hallway is my office!" Did they think the judge or anyone on his staff hadn't seen them on the news? After all the lies they told in their depo, they are no longer seen as sympathetic figures as they were at the memorial, in fact I don't think they would be welcome at any site of a missing child. It pains me to say it, but they will never be taken seriously again, and there is a very real credibility problem now with the KFN because of this "appearance of impropriety." I don't read that particular paper, but if anyone from the KFN is out there publishing such things against a good kid Jesse, I would never trust them or donate to them. I hope it isn't true. Do any of you know?

I don't know about MB writing an article about Jesse, but I do remember she wrote about Casey's friends (Amy) not acting like friends, by calling LE about the stolen money. Many people left comments for her, myself included, but she only posted the comments that were pro Casey and pro, her point of view. There is a connect with MB, KFN and the A's. MB has been very busy developing her website and vigil for hope org. I believe, as do others that this may be the topic of the upcoming Oprah show, not positive about this. The link to MB's org is below..

Also interesting is the fact that I could find no mention of KFN or the A's on this website. There is a link to MB's my space page, on the below website (in "contact us" section), which listed the A's as friends. Here is a short part of an article on the "about us" section of the vigil for hope site...

Michelle Bart, owner of Helping Heroes Productions, who once had a voice for missing toddler Caylee Anthony and her grandparents, started the National Vigil For Hope while searching for Caylee in 2008. Bart has always been aware of the importance of bringing home missing children, but the search for Caylee Marie Anthony was a wake up call. Despite the nature or circumstance of how a child [or person] goes missing, one thing should never be questioned: the person must be found and brought home and most importantly, NO ONE should ever give up HOPE.

The National Vigil For Hope 2009 is comprised of a steering committee of concerned business owners, organization executives, public safety professionals, and individuals from across the country that are driven by passion, concern, and hope in making a difference in the lives of those missing and the families still clinging to a dream of someday seeing their loved one again

http://nationalvigilforhope.org/?page_id=2

 

[Searchfortruth]

Funny how Michelle says "No one should give up hope", now in the Anthony case that meant only following "Caylee is alive" tips while refusing to support a reputable search for the deceased toddler. NOW, Michelle is listing a lot of reputable organizations on her website, as if she has been on the same page as the rest of the missing child organization's all along. Now this is the same woman who furthered the picture of the little girl in the FL Mall as possibly being Caylee, and now she has jumped on the missing child bandwagon looking for some publicity, no thank you Michelle I'm not buying.

 

[notitia]

I believe you to be correct on all counts.
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Cindy Anthony Deposition April 9.pdf (Cindy's Deposition) Page 113
15 MR. DILL: Clarify so we're here we have a contract between a private entity, private individual and kid finders and these --
18 Cindy: Kid finders, they were just witnesses to the contract.
20 Q I appreciate --
21 Cindy: You asked me who else signed the contract
They're witnesses.
23 Q Thanks for clarifying. That makes it easy.

I guess my question is: Why Would DC & GA/CA allow the Milsteads to be privy to the contents of a retainer agreement that George claims under oath that he did not sign?

KFN is already set up to pay investigators.

http://www.kidfindersnetwork.com/services.html
Investigation Services - We have our own exclusive Investigative Team that we use to obtain any information or leads. With our own Investigative Team we investigate the leads we generate and provide any information to law enforcement.

Is Dominic part of that "Investigative Team", at least in the Caylee case?
I think Cyberborg, The WorldAccording, EONAV and Tater are all correct. This is a convoluted attempt to make money by many parties, using the future sales of pictures, videos and stories at the expense of that innocent child. It makes me both sad and angry.

D&A Investigations contract with the A's was witnessed by Dennis M and Sherri M. D&A Investigations has no business or contractual relationship with KFN. The KFN “Investigative Team” consists of Dennis M and Sherri M. D&A Investigations has not been paid by the A’s, KFN or anyone else, for any investigative and security services, including costs for the memorial security.

 

[Jay D]

D&A Investigations contract with the A's was witnessed by Dennis M and Sherri M. D&A Investigations has no business or contractual relationship with KFN. The KFN “Investigative Team” consists of Dennis M and Sherri M. D&A Investigations has not been paid by the A’s, KFN or anyone else, for any investigative and security services, including costs for the memorial security.

Great post! :clap: Concise and succinct. I wish there were links to the facts stated though.

D&A Investigations contract with the A's was witnessed by Dennis M and Sherri M.

Is there a link to the D&A Investigations contract with the A's to show that it was witnessed by Dennis M and Sherri M? Was it witnessed by a certified and licensed Notary?

D&A Investigations has no business or contractual relationship with KFN.

How would we, (those of us without actual inside knowledge of D&A or KFN) determine that? Does this statement include verbal promises or agreements?

D&A Investigations has not been paid by the A’s, KFN or anyone else, for any investigative and security services, including costs for the memorial.

Have D&A's accounting records been made public, or have the records been examined by the proper authorities and their findings been made public? ? I'd certainly be interested in seeing those.

The KFN “Investigative Team” consists of Dennis M and Sherri M.

That can't possibly be correct can it? Afterall, it is stated on their website that "We HAVE our own exclusive Investigative Team". It doesn't say "We ARE our own exclusive Investigative Team". :waitasec:

 

[ladybugplus]

Dominick Casey worked with Baez and thats how A's hooked up with him. I think Baez might have paid him but I could be wrong