PA PA - Linda Stoltzfoos, 18, Bird-in-Hand, Lancaster County, 21 June 2020 *kidnapping arrest* #3

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  1. TTF14

    TTF14 Spaceship Headlight Pattern Expert

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  2. sillybilly

    sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Speculation needs to be based on some known fact that is in MSM.

    Unless there is MSM or info from LE that states Linda has some mental disability or is on the spectrum, that discussion is not productive and simply derails the thread with many posts that may not even be relevant.

    Please move on from that discussion.

    Thanks.
     
  3. sillybilly

    sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Theories/speculation needs to be based on some known fact.

    Discussion re puppy mills has been removed as there is absolutely nothing in MSM or from LE to substantiate such speculation.
     
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  4. sillybilly

    sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Folks, please remember that it is a violation of TOS to sleuth family members.

    Thanks.
     
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    https://nypost.com/2020/07/13/search-for-missing-amish-teen-linda-stoltzfoos-continues/
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    Suspect charged with kidnapping missing Amish woman Linda Stoltzfoos
    By Joshua Rhett Miller

    July 13, 2020 | 10:10am

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    Justo Smoker; Linda Stoltzfoos Lancaster County District Attorney's Office
    A Pennsylvania man is charged with kidnapping an 18-year-old Amish woman who investigators believe was “harmed” after being abducted last month, police said.

    Justo Smoker, 34, of Paradise, was arrested Friday on felony kidnapping and misdemeanor false imprisonment charges in the disappearance of Linda Stoltzfoos, who has been missing since June 21, the Lancaster County District Attorney’s Office announced Saturday.

    Stoltzfoos’ whereabouts remain unclear and an active search for her remains ongoing, but investigators “have reason to believe she was harmed” after being abducted.
    more at link
     
  6. sillybilly

    sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Hey everyone,

    Websleuths TOS (The Rules) are very clear ... do not discuss religion.

    Also do NOT discuss any tips that may be or have been called in to LE. This is a public thread where anyone (including criminals) can read and we don't need to be possibly helping perps know what information is passed along to LE.

    Personalizing or personal attacks against another member are a violation of TOS and members who do so may face a loss of posting privileges. Post respectfully or don't post.

    Please stay on topic. This thread is dedicated to discussion of the Linda Stoltzfoos case, not Rayshard Brooks.

    Thank you.
     
  7. sillybilly

    sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    ADMIN NOTE:

    This post lands at random.

    Speculation must be based on some known fact. There is nothing in either MSM or from LE to indicate that the victim in this case suffers from any mental illness or disorder. Please stop such speculation/discussion as there is no indication that it is relevant to this case.

    Thank you.
     
  8. sds71

    sds71 Well-Known Member

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    Justo Smoker Charges
     
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    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Tuesday, July 21st:
    *Preliminary Hearing-POSTPONED! (@ 9am ET) - PA – Linda Stoltzfoos (18) (last seen June 21, 2020, Bird-In-Hand, Lancaster County) – *Justo Roberto Smoker (34) arrested (7/10/20 at work at Dutchland, Inc.), charged & arraigned (7/11/20) with felony 1st degree kidnapping to inflict injury/terror & misdemeanor false imprisonment. Denied bail. Held without bond.
    Case info reference post #965 here:
    ACTIVE SEARCH - PA - Linda Stoltzfoos, 18, Bird-in-Hand, Lancaster County, 21 June 2020 *arrest*

    7/11/20 Update: Appeared before Magisterial District Judge B. Denise Commins for a preliminary arraignment. Charged with felony kidnapping to inflict injury/terror & misdemeanor false imprisonment. Denied bail. Bail Action Reason: Due to the nature of the charges & ongoing investigation into the status of the victim. Next preliminary hearing on 7/21/20.
    7/20/20 Update: Preliminary hearing has been postponed. No future date set yet.
     
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  10. sillybilly

    sillybilly Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Please continue discussion here and remember:

    Speculation needs to be based on some known fact that is in MSM or as reported by LE.

    WS is victim friendly and it is a violation of TOS to sleuth family members of either victim or POI/suspect.

    Please move on from the arguing over how the bra and stockings were found. The arrest affidavit was ambiguous (probably due to lack of punctuation) and therefore open to interpretation. As the family only referred to Linda’s practice of removing her stockings on her way home from church, the likely conclusion is that she did not remove her bra as it was not stated to be her habit. As none of us know for sure, arguing either way is not productive.
     
  11. crhedBngr

    crhedBngr Attempting to Keep Calm, and Carry On

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    Where are you, Linda??

    Continued prayers that You may be found soon!

    rainbowPutti.jpg
     
  12. Ashildir

    Ashildir Well-Known Member

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    Hi, hoping that there has been some news on Linda being found today?
     
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    Here for Linda !!!
    Hoping she is found soon !
     
  14. Ashildir

    Ashildir Well-Known Member

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    Someone mentioned on the previous thread about something white in JS' car and wondering what it was - possibly it was the apron LS was wearing?
     
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    Did I get this correct ? On July 10, 2020 the FBI offered up to $10,000 for info on the disappearance of Linda Stoltzfoos, the bra and socks were discovered the same day and JS was arrested at his place of employment around 5:25 pm. on the same day.
     
  16. Curiosity1234

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    The NY Post article linked above says she had a white apron and a white cape. Article also says cops believe she was abducted and taken to the Ronks location which implies it was the same day but she could have been taken there on June 21st or any day after that.
     
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  17. Ashildir

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    Something is confusing me, the witnesses that waved to the young lady in the car in the Gap area, stated that she was wearing a black cap, is that correct? I thought LS was wearing a white cap? If this was LS in the car, and she was indeed wearing a black cap - where did she get it from?
     
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    Yes, it was reported by those witnesses in the Gap area that she was wearing a black cap. She wore it to church, it was hers. The picture in the link above shows her with a different outfit and a white cap. That is not how she was dressed the day she was abducted.
     
  19. Ashildir

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    that's a little strange imo
     
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    My mistake I misread information
     

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