Identified! PA - Philadelphia Co, WhtFem UP17475, 30-50, decedent drug at Frankford Ave, Dec'17 - Name Pending

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NamUs UP 17475

https://www.identifyus.org/en/cases/17475


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Unidentified Body/Remains (White Female)

Found December 10, 2017 in Philadelphia County, PA
Body Condition: Recognizable face
Probable year of death: 2017
Estimated postmortem interval: minutes

Vital Statistics
Estimated age: 30-50 (Adult - Pre-40)
Approximate Height: 60 estimate
Approximate Weight: 83 estimate
Hair Color:
black
Eye Color: Unknown
Scars and marks: nothing


Clothing & Accessories
Clothing:
Multiple layers; black yoga pants, gray sweatpants; black coat, blue coat, black shirt
Jewerly: nothing
Footwear:
Pink/black sneakers with blue laces
Accessories: nothing

Identifiers
Fingerprints: Fingerprint information is available
Dentals: Dental information / charting is not available
DNA: Sample submitted-tests not complete

Case History:
Decedent drug by vehicle on Frankford Ave in Kensington section of Philadelphia
 

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she looks very young in that reconstruction. I wonder how accurate it is.
 

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This lady would be my first guess. I know 11 years is a long time, but...
Kristin Leonetti 23 when reported missing in 2006. (34 y/o) 4' 11" 100 lbs. Black hair/Brown eyes

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/10083/2
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3515dfpa.html
Interesting bit from this news article...
http://www.delcotimes.com/article/DC/20080914/NEWS/309149961

"She said she gave them her boyfriend's license plate number. He lived at several places and used to hang out at Front and York streets in the Kensington section of Philadelphia, she said.
One city officer had known Kristin and arrested her once for her own protection, he said. She was known to frequent Front and York streets to get drugs.

Known as "Little Niki" to people at the St. Francis Inn shelter on Kensington Avenue in Philadelphia,."


Front and York is only about 1 1/2 miles from the place where the UID was killed.
 

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This lady would be my first guess. I know 11 years is a long time, but...
Kristin Leonetti 23 when reported missing in 2006. (34 y/o) 4' 11" 100 lbs. Black hair/Brown eyes

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/10083/2
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3515dfpa.html
Interesting bit from this news article...
http://www.delcotimes.com/article/DC/20080914/NEWS/309149961

"She said she gave them her boyfriend's license plate number. He lived at several places and used to hang out at Front and York streets in the Kensington section of Philadelphia, she said.
One city officer had known Kristin and arrested her once for her own protection, he said. She was known to frequent Front and York streets to get drugs.

Known as "Little Niki" to people at the St. Francis Inn shelter on Kensington Avenue in Philadelphia,."


Front and York is only about 1 1/2 miles from the place where the UID was killed.

Perfect find coffee!
 

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I'm not sure I like the reconstruction. The hair isn't the right colour (listed as black, drawn as brown) and she looks too young. She has no eye colour listed, even though there's no decomposition (as she had only just died)?
83lbs is thin even for a woman who's only 5 feet tall. Not saying it's wrong (especially if she was transient and hitchhiking) just an observation.
 
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Looks good to me. I'm not sure about the Star of David tattoo though, since UID doesn't have any listed. I'd go ahead and submit her, since it's only one small tattoo and might have been destroyed by road rash.

PS...Two noticeable moles on the reconstruction. I made them darker, because they're not apparent until zoom in.
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Looks good to me. I'm not sure about the Star of David tattoo though, since UID doesn't have any listed. I'd go ahead and submit her, since it's only one small tattoo and might have been destroyed by road rash.

PS...Two noticeable moles on the reconstruction. I made them darker, because they're not apparent until zoom in.
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I sure hope this is not Jenna. I never saw moles on her face on pictures and I think they would have mentioned her tattoo. I also think that the reconstruction is far to young. considering the age range mentioned for this UID. Thanks for making the moles more visible. I hadn't noticed them before. They are good markers.
 

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This coverage has more details about the silver Ford F-150:
Missing tail gate
Ladder racks
Sticker on back
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/new...Being-Pushed-Out-of-Moving-Car-463185073.html

This is such a depressing story...a woman is pushed out of a car, witnesses say she tried to hang on for a bit, fell and then was hit by the second car. Somebody must recognize that vehicle from that description, and the second vehicle must be in cahoots...the whole thing is sickening

I think her height/weight stats are probably accurate as she was pronounced dead at the scene...this and the circumstances of her death might indicate a high-risk lifestyle of drugs/prostitution/trafficking but it is very, very sad that after a day and a half of press there is nothing...
 

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This article makes it sound like they know who she is but haven't released her name. Am I reading it wrong?

The woman's name was not immediately available but police believe she was 30-years-old.

You mean because of the word "was"? I think it's a clumsy way of saying they don't know her identity. In the video they state that police don't know her identity. It's a news item that was made in December 2017. Maybe in the time between the incident and today they figured it out. But as far as I know she is still in Namus (created Feb, 13, 2018)
 
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The woman's name was not immediately available but police believe she was 30-years-old.

You mean because of the word "was"? I think it's a clumsy way of saying they don't know her identity. In the video they state that police don't know her identity. It's a news item that was made in December 2017. Maybe in the time between the incident and today they figured it out. But as far as I know she is still in Namus (created Feb, 13, 2018)

I thought about that too. Maybe they do have a clue as to who she is, but don't have a DNA or other means to rule her "officially" identified. Maybe she was in far worse shape, as in being beaten, previously to being dumped out of the car. Who knows what condition her face, and body would've been in after that kind of trauma.
 

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I emailed the NAMUS contact to check on Amy Hambrick or Jenna Van Gelderen as possible matches. I will post here again if I hear back.
 

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I emailed the NAMUS contact to check on Amy Hambrick or Jenna Van Gelderen as possible matches. I will post here again if I hear back.

Amy Dobbs from NAMUS responded to my email. She said she will check and let me know.
 
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