PA PA - Uniontown, WhtFem UP16509, 30-45, in big rig accident, May'86

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  1. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    The article on this is subscription only, and the available info provides nothing as to vital stats. But there is a very clear postmortem of the victim.

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    http://www.heraldstandard.com/news/...cle_a5a5c196-1bbb-5e11-b521-61cd5f424ac5.html

     
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    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Redwood146 New Member

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    While the UID and Elizabeth look remarkable similar I think poor Elizabeth was likely killed by her ex husband/half brother :(
     
  5. chaddylex

    chaddylex Verified Insider

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    I have never heard about this (but when it happened I was only 11 years old) I live about 15 miles from where this accident happened. I hope she will be identified soon.
     
  6. honesty

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    I agree that they look similar, but like you I think she was dead long before this accident happened. Her husband/brother seems to have disappeared another woman from Mississippi. Thankfully hes is in jail now and will never see the outside world again.
     
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    Was she a passenger or a pedestrian?
     
  8. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    I think they were saying she was a passenger. But the fact that she was under the truck, as opposed to inside the truck, would suggest that she was a bystander.
     
  9. Magnum P.E.

    Magnum P.E. Active Member

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    Well, if she was found under the trailer it sounds like she was a very very unlucky pedestrian. However, as she was not local then circumstances favor her being a passenger in the truck, however she ended up under there.

    This is my home turf, never heard of the case before as I was out of town for a number of years, including that time.
     
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    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    If her possessions were inside of the truck, that would indicate that she was a passenger.

    I don't know that to be the case, though.
     
  11. Magnum P.E.

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    Didn't seem to be possessions outside either, except what was on her body! This is a weird one, could be either way. Maybe they will share more info on this case, as it was clearly an accident and there is no criminal case to compromise.
     
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    That's strange. How did she go from inside to the outside? Could she have jumped out? She looks remarkable for a car accident victim.
     
  13. Magnum P.E.

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    Unbelted people can be ejected from a vehicle and it can end up on top of them. Not to be graphic but it is usually a closed coffin in that case. She does look pretty good for that to have happened.

    Here is an interesting possibility;

    http://projectjason.org/forums/index.php?topic=331.0

    Faith Ann Willis. Missing from Fairmont , WV, August 1985 (not far from Uniontown). Check out the hairline and the eyebrows, and consider that this UID was found under a semi trailer. Faith Ann Willis was only 4'9", but we have no vitals for the UID for comparison and she is not on NamUS.
     
  14. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Another possibility - pure speculation - is that there might have been cigarette butts inside the truck of the same brand as those found on her body.

    There are a lot of things LE could look at to determine whether she had been inside of the truck.
     
  15. Magnum P.E.

    Magnum P.E. Active Member

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    Arrrgh never mind. DOB 1984, missing 2005.
     
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    No indication of where the truck had come from of where it was going?
    Or does this trucking company just deliver in the local area - not long distance deliveries?
     
  17. Magnum P.E.

    Magnum P.E. Active Member

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    The company and driver were from roughly 750 miles away, probably passing through. They never released much info on this case. It would be useful to know the destination of the truck, which might also have been the destination of the woman if she was hitching a ride.

    This story did not receive wide coverage, so family may have never heard about the accident.

    I can't figure for the life of me how someone could be ejected from the cab and end up with the trailer on top of her.

    Moderator - can you please remove "Unionville" from the tags? This is definitely Uniontown.
     
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    Magnum, this video might be an indicator how it is possible. While the video is scary (definitely not for the weak of heart) it is not graphic, and the guy is miraculously uninjured. Luckiest Truck Driver in Russia - YouTube
     
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    Wow tamar, that video gave me a newer and much wider perspective on what can happen in a vehicle accident. It certainly could explain what happened here.

    Thanks!
     
  20. Magnum P.E.

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    Yep, could happen.
    I spoke to someone (not with LE) who said that the thought is that she hitched a ride with the driver at a truck stop somewhere. There is not much possibility that she is local.

    Since this is in my area and I have done what I could with Mr. Bones (DNA has been or will soon be taken from living relatives of PMB), I think I'll concentrate on this case.

    If we knew where the truck was coming from and going to we might map truck stops along the way to get started.

    Anyone want to take a guess at her ethnic background? Asian? Hispanic? African-American? Part of one or more of the above?
    Having isotope testing done to determine where she grew up would be great but is probably not going to happen.
     
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    Nancy M. has written a profile for this Jane Doe, complete with information about where the truck was headed, vitals, etc. According to her update today on the Facebook page for her Pennsylvania Missing Persons website, she found the additional information on newspaperarchive.com:

    http://pennsylvaniamissing.com/springhilljane5286.html
     

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