Patsy Ramsey

[Userid]

Userid,
What do they need to prove?

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Answer: that they're worth posting in the first place.

These add zero value.

 

[Tadpole12]

what is deemed relevant?
don't mind the photos, prompting
part of posting sytlistics?
wonder about original source


also a reminder
Spring clean your pms, peeps and CHAPS

 

[PositiveLight]

Personally I enjoyed the photos. Jon Benet was the spitting image of PR! Wow! I never thought they resembled each other.... now I can see it clearly. Mini me for sure!

 

[Hazelnutty]

I also enjoyed seeing the photos. Startling resemblance between JB & PR.

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[Misskolie]

Seeing the resemblance of both JBR and PR is shocking - I was so young when this whole thing happened it is sometimes hard to remember how it happened or what they had looked like JBR has been gone for decades now and sometimes is hard to remember what she looked like - not like I'd wanna remember PR's "resting b!t*h face" but still spitting image of her.

 

[icedtea4me]

REPORTER: How often does it happen that you are recognized in public? And do you Ever find yourself wearing disguises or making yourselves so you are not recognized?
JR: No, uh, we are recognized
PR: probably at least weekly, sometimes daily depends on you know the circumstances
JR: we did discuss Patsy wearing a blond wig once but thought that would be great, they'll see me with a blonde, we know where that would go


http://jfjbr.tripod.com/truth/date.html


(I remember watching this interview and Patsy was the one who said "We know where that would go" while looking at John.)

Dr Hodges (Who Will Speak for JonBenet) stated that JonBenet was, to John, Patsy in a blonde wig.

 

[PositiveLight]

REPORTER: How often does it happen that you are recognized in public? And do you Ever find yourself wearing disguises or making yourselves so you are not recognized?
JR: No, uh, we are recognized
PR: probably at least weekly, sometimes daily depends on you know the circumstances
JR: we did discuss Patsy wearing a blond wig once but thought that would be great, they'll see me with a blonde, we know where that would go


http://jfjbr.tripod.com/truth/date.html


(I remember watching this interview and Patsy was the one who said "We know where that would go" while looking at John.)

Dr Hodges (Who Will Speak for JonBenet) stated that JonBenet was, to John, Patsy in a blonde wig.

That's kinda creepy huh?

 

[Hazelnutty]

That's kinda creepy huh?

Yes, very.

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[SeekingJana]

There's another reason to post both photos of JBR in her pageant wear and Patsy in pageant and costume ball outfits. ( Patsy loved costumes, going back to at least her Miss America pageant days, and would wear many costumes as an adult, whether other party goers wore them to the same event or not). She had tiny near- duplicates made for JBR years later... You can see these only with comparison photos ( Example I can think of readily- the black and white Harlequin gown JBR wore with feather trim. Patsy had an almost duplicate from a masquerade ball years before.)
There are several other photos of the mother and daughter dressed similarly, but not those " Mother/ Daughter" posed photos.

What it demonstrates to some psychologists, including me, is that Patsy may have had or likely had, a n identity fusion with JBR, seeing her child as a true extension of herself. Thus, may have assigned adult emotions and feelings to the little girl, while Patsy was the one harboring the feelings. This is classic projection, but it is not extremely common in their educational and socio-economic background in the 1990's.

There was a televised interview with Patsy not too long after JBR's death, a casual, outdoor setting, probably in Atlanta, where Patsy says of JonBenet " She will never know what it's like to have cancer" ( projecting her own battle with cancer onto her dead little girl) and more bizarrely, I think " She'll never have to face being 40 years old". ( Projection again, as Patsy was extremely self- conscious about her age and aging, and was not happy at all to have had her 40th birthday shortly before JBR was murdered.)

Respectfully, and IMO only.

 

[PositiveLight]

Very excellent points!

 

[Userid]

What it demonstrates to some psychologists, including me, is that Patsy may have had or likely had, a n identity fusion with JBR, seeing her child as a true extension of herself. Thus, may have assigned adult emotions and feelings to the little girl, while Patsy was the one harboring the feelings. This is classic projection, but it is not extremely common in their educational and socio-economic background in the 1990's.

In other words, she was living through her daughter. Again, we all knew that already, with the mere fact she had JBR competing (rigorously competing, to boot) in these pageants in the first place.

 

[Lavinia]

I actually was going to unsubscribe from this thread due to the creepy photos but there have been some great points in the two pages since the photos were posted. Patsy's interviews and some of the sleuths' take on them kind of brought the photos to life.

In other words, she was living through her daughter. Again, we all knew that already, with the mere fact she had JBR competing (rigorously competing, to boot) in these pageants in the first place.

 

[Userid]

I actually was going to unsubscribe from this thread due to the creepy photos but there have been some great points in the two pages since the photos were posted. Patsy's interviews and some of the sleuths' take on them kind of brought the photos to life.

I literally went back the last 2 pages to see if maybe I just missed something, but the only things that were gleamed from other posters were the following: that JBR looked like PR ("spitting image": I wouldn't necessarily agree, but ok. And?) and that one of JBR's costumes looked like PR's (again, don't necessarily agree, but ok. And?). PR was living through JBR was also mentioned, but we knew this already and the photos do nothing to support that, specifically. And I'm confused why we need a photo of PR wearing a wig during her chemotherapy, to boot -- what that photo proves, in addition to the others, I don't know. Okay, I'll just drop it now; it just seemed like these photos were posted simply because they look weird and for shock factor. I still think they're pointless, but so be it I guess. Rant over.