Possible Alcala victims?

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http://www.maine.gov/tools/whatsnew..._police_unsolved&id=10804&v=Article-homicides

According to the news story about the UID doe (where I found Mary Olenchuk's name page 2 of story) you posted first, a short piece of rope was tied around her neck and she died from strangulation.

The second story I posted has a list of 2 other girls in Mass, who where beaten to death but LE wasnt sure if there was a link to the UID and Mary O.
 
Many reports have stated that Alcala sometimes "smashed in" his victim's faces and heads.

This thread is for corpses/skeletons found with this same type of facial and/or cranial destruction, that have not yet been linked to Alcala, or any other killer.

Unidentified bodies/skeletons with this type of injury- especially found in desert locations, should be listed and discussed in this thread.

The time frame of these types of discoveries would start from the beginning of Alcala's known killing spree, until the present day- as there may still be victims of Alcala whose bodies/ skeletons have yet to be found.

Police in Seattle are taking another look at the case of Joyce Gaunt, found murdered in February 1978. The method of killing fits Alcala to a tee. The timeline fits too.

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2010/03/26/1356485/california-killer-investigated.html


On Feb. 17, 1978, Joyce Gaunt's body was found at a picnic area at Seward Park.

The developmentally disabled teen had been beaten, strangled and sexually assaulted, according to media reports. She had been living in a group home on Capitol Hill.

While local media wrote little about Gaunt's slaying, Seattle true-crime author Ann Rule wrote in her 2009 book, "But I Trusted You," that Gaunt was "trusting and naive as a child of 8 or 10."

On the night of Feb. 16, Gaunt called the group home around midnight and hung up after she was urged to come home, Rule wrote. It was unclear why she was in the park.

The next morning, Gaunt's body was found in the park. She was nude and lying on her face; her skull was crushed.
 
Photo of Joyce Gaunt:


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http://s531.photobucket.com/albums/...sted You/?action=view&current=JoyceGaunt1.jpg
 
I think the pic of the girl with red hair and yellow top found here 010/03/01931.jpg looks quite a bit like the pic you posted of Mary O. I think you should post them both on their appropriate threads for consideration and opinions from others.

 
She reminds me a bit of the girl on the right
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2010/03/11/2011323818.jpg
but I don't think Mary'd have been likely to turn up in a setting such as this.

Thanks, the thing with Mary is the fact that she turned up in a barn not far from where she was abducted. So, I'm thinking that if it was him he would have abducted her had his way and killed her not far from there. However, they did say that the barn was searched a couple times and nothing and then she was found because of the smell of decomposition so I'm wondering if she was held for a couple days, then NYC could be possible and then the perp returned her after like he told her he would take her home??? She recognized the guy or he said something that made her trust him (maybe took her pic earlier in the day which is why it's possible with Alcala) for her to get in the car like the newspaper story said.

Kennebunkport is not far from NYC, a few hours at the most from NYC and Boston from each way.
 
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BODY OF A WOMAN FOUND IN 'VILLAGE'; Discovered on Waverly Place on Roof-Victim Believed Murdered Elsewhere

By LAURIE JOHNSTON
August 21, 1974, Wednesday
Page 43, 574 words

The nude body of an unidentified blond, blue-eyed woman about 25 years old was found on a Greenwich Village apartment-house roof yesterday. [ END OF FIRST PARAGRAPH ]


http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FB0E10F835581A7493C3AB1783D85F408785F9
 
She was murdered in 1974 when alcala was in jail and they arrested/convicted someone. I did find a few other's on google archieve that where killed including Deborah Neill who was a 13 yo runaway but they also convicted 2 guys for killing her.

There was also a famous author stabbed to death with a fork from a carving set (bizzare) in Greenwich village in 1972, unsolved.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...&pg=5527,3708681&dq=irma+simonton+black&hl=en
 
Thank you. Good to know they convicted someone for her crime.

I believe that Alcala was out on parole at the time she was murdered? It looks like he got out on parole on August 3, 1974 and was required to register as a sex offender with Monterey Park Police. He was arrested on a parole violation (providing pot to a minor) on October 6, 1974 and was convicted at that time and then spent time in prison until June of 1977.

Here is a link to the timeline. I hope I am reading it correctly. TIMELINE - Where was Alcala and when? - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

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She was murdered in 1974 when alcala was in jail and they arrested/convicted someone. I did find a few other's on google archieve that where killed including Deborah Neill who was a 13 yo runaway but they also convicted 2 guys for killing her.

There was also a famous author stabbed to death with a fork from a carving set (bizzare) in Greenwich village in 1972, unsolved.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...&pg=5527,3708681&dq=irma+simonton+black&hl=en
 
I don't think young woman is in one of the unidentified pictures, but her features remind me of some of them. Quite a few of these women appear to have somewhat of an overbite. Perhaps Alcala found that attractive, I don't know, but this girls murder fits his MO and I believe it fits the time line also. So I thought I'd list her as a potential, Donna Kuzmaak.

Kuzmaak,23, was found beaten, stabbed and strangled to death in the basement of her home on March 21, 1979.


http://www.portlandonline.com/Police/index.cfm?a=60304&c=35874

http://portlandcrime.blogspot.com/2006/05/portland-cold-case-79-19210.html
 
I don't think young woman is in one of the unidentified pictures, but her features remind me of some of them. Quite a few of these women appear to have somewhat of an overbite. Perhaps Alcala found that attractive, I don't know, but this girls murder fits his MO and I believe it fits the time line also. So I thought I'd list her as a potential, Donna Kuzmaak.

Kuzmaak,23, was found beaten, stabbed and strangled to death in the basement of her home on March 21, 1979.


http://www.portlandonline.com/Police/index.cfm?a=60304&c=35874

http://portlandcrime.blogspot.com/2006/05/portland-cold-case-79-19210.html

LE should definitely look into this one. It does fit Alcala's MO and he was free on bail at the time.
 
http://doj.nh.gov/coldcaseunit/listing/joanne-dunham.htm

Joanne Dunham

Name: Joanne Dunham
Year of Death or Disappearance: 1968
City/Town: Charlestown
Status: Unsolved Homicide
Details: On June 11, 1968 at approx 7:10 a.m., Joanne Dunham, age 15, was last seen while walking from her home at Raiche Mobile Homes in Charlestown, N.H. enroute to her bus stop on her way to school. She never got on the bus. Her body was found at approx 4:15 p.m. the following day on a roped off dirt road on Quaker City Road in Unity NH approximately 5½ miles from where she was abducted. An autopsy determined that Joanne died of asphyxiation.
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There was a rash of unsolved killings of young women, many of them nurses, for a period of time centered around Claremont NH, which is less than 30 miles away from Georges Mills. I know Joanne is too early if you figure Tali S. was on September 25, 1968 but I thought I would submit her for consideration since she is close. More than one of the bodies turned up in Unity, NH.

This has a comprehensive list of missing/unsolved women from NH during this period:
http://nhunsolved.blogspot.com/

I did a fairly comprehensive list a couple of years ago on all the unsolved murders in NH, broken into types of damage done. I can't find it now, but there were multiple major head traumas IIRC.
 
We don't really know where Alcala was in the summer of 68 do we? I keep trying to find info on why he was in New Hampshire in the first place, friends?, relatives?, sister maybe? living there? Maybe he spent the summer of 68 there? So, yes until we know otherwise, I'd include her.


Who knows when this behavior started? Everyone is assuming it started with Tali, maybe not. I don't think this type of personality just starts happening when you're graduating from college. It's a deep, deep rooted psychological problem that probably started when he was a very young child. (Or maybe you're born with it, who knows?) Who knows if there were earlier victims. Tali herself was on the Dr. Phil show and for some reason she said that she does not think she was his first victim.

Can't find anything about his earlier years, like where he went to high school, etc. One article did mention he'd gone to private schools and took piano lessons, that's the sum of what I've found. You'd think, since this guy has been in jail such a long time, this information, his past, would be spread all over the internet.
 
I wonder if any of these unsolved murders that they "assume" were done by the zodiak killer, could have been Alcala's doing? The posing of the body of Martha Marie Smith sounds like his MO. Thought I'd pass this list along for all to look at if you haven't seen it.


http://www.zodiackiller.com/mba/OPZV.html
 
From one of the earlier trial transcripts:


According to defendant's taped confession, not challenged on this appeal, he picked up Monique H., who was hitchhiking in Riverside County on February 12, 1979. Monique was a well-developed 15-year-old. The two drove to defendant's residence and spent the night together, engaging in consensual sex. The next morning, they went to some mountains, where defendant took pictures of Monique in the nude, and of the two performing simulated sex acts together. At some point, Monique became frightened and began to scream and struggle. Defendant tied her up, stuffed a T-shirt in her mouth, beat her unconscious, and raped her vaginally and anally. He said he had not planned the violence, but was "incoherent" and frightened about a situation that had gotten out of hand. Ultimately, he drove Monique back to civilization, where she notified the police.


I seriously doubt that this was the first time he'd been cruising around Riverside County looking for victims. I don't know if it's something one just sees on TV or what, do these serial killers kill more frequently? His killings were very close together toward the end in 79 when he was arrested on July 24. There seems to be a large gap in the time line between December 16 77, when he killed Georgia Wixted, and then Charlotte Lamb June 24 1978. And where was he after he killed Charlotte Lamb? His next known victim (the 15 year old above) and then the killing June 14 79 of Jill Parenteau and then only a week later he killed Robin Samsoe, on June 20. It would make sense wouldn't it that potential victims could likely be found during those periods.
 

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