Possible Victim: Andre Jamal Isaac, 25, aka Sugar Bear, missing Nov 2002, found Queens Dec 2002 & Moriches Jan 2003

[DS2021]

Bumping

 

[jpfdtriggerH]

It is highly unlikely that Sugar Bear was killed by the LISK.

-male.
-far taller than the other victims.
-shot, not strangled.
-dumped far out of the way of the "canon" victims.
-was likely picked up by a man in a flashy car, which doesn't suit the way the LISK operates.
-there is nothing that indicates that the LISK is bisexual. If the Asian male is connected to the case, then his violent death can likely be attributed to the fact that the LISK felt cheated.

Rex might be bisexual he even searched for "tied up torture asian twink *advertiser censored*" in google or something to that effect. That means he likes asian twinks as asian doe was

 

[jpfdtriggerH]

It is highly unlikely that Sugar Bear was killed by the LISK.

-male.
-far taller than the other victims.
-shot, not strangled.
-dumped far out of the way of the "canon" victims.
-was likely picked up by a man in a flashy car, which doesn't suit the way the LISK operates.
-there is nothing that indicates that the LISK is bisexual. If the Asian male is connected to the case, then his violent death can likely be attributed to the fact that the LISK felt cheated.

Also there is the possibility that he might kill "crimins causa" that means killing to hide other crimes. I think sugar bear anda jessica worked for the same pimp?

 

[sds71]

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The reporter will correct the typos

‘Sugar Bear’ murder getting close look by Gilgo Beach task force

MORICHES, N.Y. (PIX11) — More than 20 years after the skull of a female impersonator was found embedded to an icy pond in Moriches on Long Island, the murder case of Andre Isaac —known as &#8…

pix11.com

 

[imstilla.grandma]

“I was trying to wait until they got in touch with me,” Kim Jordan, Isaac’s mother, said. “Because I know everything’s in an uproar right now.”

Isaac’s case first gained some attention, after an Asian male dressed in women’s clothing was discovered on Ocean Parkway in Gilgo Beach during a police search in the spring of 2011. He was the only man among the ten sets of remains ultimately found along the roadway. The “John Doe” had his skull crushed and was placed closest to the “Gilgo Four.”

Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney said on July 14, after Heuermann was indicted, that he had searched online for torture and child *advertiser censored*. One of his searches allegedly involved Asian men.

“It’s disturbing,” said Isaac’s mother. “First of all, how long has he been doing this? How far back do the searches go? To think of how his mindset is, it’s very disturbing.”

‘Sugar Bear’ murder getting close look by Gilgo Beach task force

MORICHES, N.Y. (PIX11) — More than 20 years after the skull of a female impersonator was found embedded to an icy pond in Moriches on Long Island, the murder case of Andre Isaac —known as &#8…

pix11.com

 

[Keith417]

Also, according to this one, Peaches had a son...it perplexes me that NO one is coming forward. I wonder since she was found w a C-section scar if any doctors, nurses etc...would have remembered her tattoo - if she had it at the time of giving birth?
"Police had the woman’s peach tattoo printed in a tattoo magazine and a man named Steve Cullen from Bristol, CT said he recognized it. In 2012 Cullen would go on to say that a woman claiming to be Peaches’ mother called him saying her grandson, Peaches’ son, wanted a tattoo done in remembrance of his mother by the same artist who had done his mom’s peach tattoo. There was no follow up." below is link...much to read for everyone.

Peaches?

Wow that is interesting that someone called and said that but no one ever identified her.

 

[Keith417]

***PS...does anyone think the women to the right of the pimp (Khalil White) could be Sugar Bear? Not sure if this was mentioned or not before?

Latest article mentions that Sugar Bear was 6 feet 3, so it is not likely that it is him/her in this photo. He would be definitely the tallest.

It would be good to find out when or in which year photo was actually taken. If Jessica was really only few weeks in New York, than photo is definitely from 2003, sometime prior to July when she was found.

you know whats crazy the girl kneeling on the bottom which I know isn’t her because she is African American but she looks like Jessica Taylor’s mug shot photo (I think it’s the way the hair is slicked to the side)and the girl on the end on the left looks like Maureen Brainard-Barnes photo.

 

[Keith417]

Lilo/Jlo77 think the Suffolk County's former chief of police,James Burke, had a lot to do with LISK! Was he befriending these women and lured them to their horrific deaths! Lilo/Jlo believe he had/was a very big part in these murders. Does anyone else believe/think that?

I am not sure if he was involved with RH but maybe with a lot of these dismembered bodies and with the help of Hackett being a Doctor.. until today I never knew about all these people from NYC going missing and then their body parts found all over nyc and Long Island.. supposedly Burke liked to watch snuff films and was involved in prostitution parties on Long Island.. maybe him and a few others are apart of these crimes I really don’t know but this all very sad.

 

[dotr]

'Aug 15, 2023
The murder case of Andre Isaac — known as "Sugar Bear" — is getting a closer look by Gilgo Beach investigators, now that architect Rex Heuermann has been charged in the serial killer case.'

 

[brooklynbound]

ANDRE JAMAL ISAAC aka Sugar Bear


A 25 year old drag queen from Brooklyn is murdered and dismembered, body parts dumped in Queens and Long Island.


Tuesday, December 17, 2002
HEADLESS TORSO FOUND IN WEEDED ARVERNE LOT

Police from the 100 Precinct, as well as officers from the Emergency Service Unit (ESU) responded to an anonymous tip that there was a body in a plastic bag on Beach 63 Street between Larkin Avenue and the boardwalk. In the bag, police say they found a "partial human torso" without head or extremities. On Wednesday, Ellen Borakove, a spokesperson for the Medical Examiner, told The Wave that it was a male torso, but that further tests would be necessary to ascertain his age, how long he had been dead and the cause of death.

Location:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/40°35'25.8"N+73°47'32.6"W/@40.5894897,-73.7923671,617m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0
There are several settlements in the area today, but in 2002 it was an undeveloped lot.



January 25, 2003
HEAD FOUND ON LONG ISLAND ICE POND

A Long Island couple enjoying an afternoon skating on a frozen pond yesterday happened upon a gruesome sight – a detached human head sticking out of the ice, police said.

The head of a white adult male was spotted around 12 p.m. yesterday on one of the Twin Ponds near the corner of Montauk Highway and Barnes Road in the town of Moriches, cops said.

A Suffolk County Police Department spokesman said the head was being examined for identification and to determine cause of death.

Location:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/40°49'04.6"N+72°50'20.1"W/@40.8179389,-72.8389194,615m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0


White... The head belongs to a black man. Mistakes with the race, always happen. The victim is ANDRE JAMAL ISAAC aka Sugar Bear. He is a black drag queen from Brooklyn disappeared shortly before Thanksgiving 2002, (Nov 28). He is a big guy. Gun is used this time.



January 27, 2003
BULLET HOLE IN SEVERED HEAD

A human head found on the ice of a Long Island skating pond belonged to a man who had been shot, Suffolk County police said yesterday.

The head was spotted protruding through the ice by two skaters on the shoreline of a pond in Moriches on Saturday. It was taken by police to the Suffolk County Medical Examiner’s Office for inspection.

Police Officer Bob McLaren said neither the race nor the identity of the man have been determined, and that police have not yet found the rest of the body.

McLaren said medical examiners determined that the head had a gunshot wound.





March 6, 2003
A partial human torso that was found in a plastic bag on Beach 63 Street between Larken Street and the boardwalk on Dec. 17, 2002 about 11:30 a.m. has been determined by medical examiners to belong to a male, said police. The investigation has been reclassified as a homicide, and was ongoing, police said. The victim remains unidentified.



November 24, 2007
Police are searching for the killer of “Sugar Bear,” a professional drag queen from Brooklyn – whose head was found frozen in the ice of a Long Island pond by skaters in 2003.

Police say that the killer dumped the head, with a single bullet wound to the head, in the frozen pond, where it was found on January 25, 2003.

The killer had dumped the head, with a single bullet wound in the temple, in the pond in Moriches, where it was found on Jan. 25, 2003, said Detective Lt. Jack Fitzpatrick, commander of the Suffolk County Police Homicide Squad.

Arms and legs belonging to the same victim were later found in a plastic bag miles away in Suffolk County.

Possible Location:
Google Maps
Possible date of discovery: Fall 2007

The body parts are disposed with a ride on Sunrise Highway this time, not LI Expressway.


It took Suffolk detectives almost a year and a half to identify the victim as Andre Jamal Isaac, 25, of East New York, the grandson of a Vietnam POW.

DNA tests done in Suffolk linked the body parts to a torso found clad in a skirt, black body suit and tank top in Arverne on December 17, 2002.

(1) In January of 2004, police officials came up with an artist's rendition of the dead man.

(2) Detectives showed photos of his head to transvestites in Manhattan.

It is probably 1, not 2

In May 2004, one drag queen told a detective, “Hey, that looks like Sugar Bear.” Another knew Isaac’s real name, and detectives found his mother, Kim Long Jordan, 50, on Long Island.

Jordan gave investigators a key piece of information: One of her son’s pals had seen Isaac just before Thanksgiving getting into a car with a “secret friend.” He was never seen again.

“He went out without a coat and said he would be right back. He left his pocketbook,” she said. Fitzpatrick said the car was a red, BMW-type coupe with “nice rims” driven by a Hispanic man.


It is December 2002. The torso and left foot of Jane Doe 2000 was discovered in Manorville along with John Doe 2000 with not much fuss. On Gilgo Beach there's the head of the Fire Island Lady (1996) and the right foot, head and arms of Jane Doe 2000. Seems like Gilgo Beach hasn't yet proven its long standing confidentiality to come. Peaches Doe's head and extremities? Where are they?


The Wave | Rockaway Beach, NY Newspaper since 1893
The Wave | Rockaway Beach, NY Newspaper since 1893
HUNT FOR CLUES IN TRANNY SLAY
http://www.timesledger.com/stories/2003/10/20030306-archive35.html
BULLET HOLE IN SEVERED HEAD

Read this post NYPD DAILY BLOTTER the man louis guichard owns a red bmw and has addreses in north baldwin and Jamaica queens his buddy that he got locked up with tyshaun lee live one blake ave like 3 mins from de sales place

 

[sds71]

Twenty years ago Wednesday, a landscaper cleaning the wooded property of a newly constructed home in Moriches found the partial remains of Andre Isaac, a professional drag performer known as “Sugar Bear.”

Investigators later used DNA to confirm the remains belonged to the 25-year-old from East New York, whose severed head ice skaters previously found embedded in the frozen Forge River on Jan. 25, 2003. Isaac’s dismembered torso dressed in a bodysuit and skirt was found in Far Rockaway on Dec. 17, 2002, less than a month after he was last seen alive shortly before Thanksgiving. In the decades since, questions have been raised about whether the unsolved murder may be linked to the Gilgo Beach case, also known as the Long Island Serial Killer investigation — partly due to the fact that Suffolk County police included the victim’s profile on a hidden page of gilgonews.com, the department’s clearinghouse for information on the larger probe.


“If Andrew Isaac’s information is included on a website set up by the Suffolk County police Department as part of the LISK investigation, then why haven’t they mentioned him in connection with this case before?” journalist Alexis Linkletter asked on the podcast Unraveled that explored the case. “And more importantly, why isn’t his information visible for the public to see?”

Police have said that they do not believe that Isaac’s case is connected to the Gilgo Beach murders in which authorities found 10 sets of human remains along Ocean Parkway in 2010 and 2011 while searching for missing New Jersey woman Shannan Gilbert who was later found dead in Oak Beach.

“Before the official roll out of the website, [Isaac’s] case was utilized as a test during [the] layout process and was briefly live on the site,” police told the Press in a statement when asked about the still-functioning link to Isaac’s profile on the police website. “If you navigate to the website, not utilizing that link, that page no longer exists.”

Is Andre “Sugar Bear” Isaac Linked to the Gilgo Beach Murders?

In the two decades since the victim’s remains were found on Long Island, questions have been raised about whether the unsolved murder may be linked to the Gilgo Beach case.

www.longislandpress.com

 

[PreciousDust]

“If you navigate to the website, not utilizing that link, that page no longer exists.”

Translation: We have no one on staff who knows how to completely remove a page.

 

[dotr]

Noting, fwiw.

Far Rockaway, Queens to manorville - Google Search

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Mom thinks death of son who dressed as a woman, found dismembered is tied to Gilgo Beach murders

LONG ISLAND — The mother of a young female impersonator who was murdered and dismembered in late 2002 told PIX11 News she thinks her son, Andre Isaac, was targeted by the elusive Long Island serial…

pix11.com

''Isaac had vanished that November from his apartment in East New York, Brooklyn, according to some friends.
“He just went downstairs and got in a red sports car and that’s the last they ever saw of him,” Jordan said.
Jordan felt faint, after recounting what happened next.
Her son’s remains weren’t identified until months after a skull was discovered embedded in the ice of a pond in Moriches, Long Island in January 2003. The location was 60 miles away from Far Rockaway.''

Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 4 murders, July 2023 #10

More info will come....maybe news12 long island on facebook could have something....but with so much other news going on Rex may be lower on news food chain..........will see who on news12 is leading off at Riverhead jail to report on current news

www.websleuths.com

 

[jpfdtriggerH]

Twenty years ago Wednesday, a landscaper cleaning the wooded property of a newly constructed home in Moriches found the partial remains of Andre Isaac, a professional drag performer known as “Sugar Bear.”

Investigators later used DNA to confirm the remains belonged to the 25-year-old from East New York, whose severed head ice skaters previously found embedded in the frozen Forge River on Jan. 25, 2003. Isaac’s dismembered torso dressed in a bodysuit and skirt was found in Far Rockaway on Dec. 17, 2002, less than a month after he was last seen alive shortly before Thanksgiving. In the decades since, questions have been raised about whether the unsolved murder may be linked to the Gilgo Beach case, also known as the Long Island Serial Killer investigation — partly due to the fact that Suffolk County police included the victim’s profile on a hidden page of gilgonews.com, the department’s clearinghouse for information on the larger probe.


“If Andrew Isaac’s information is included on a website set up by the Suffolk County police Department as part of the LISK investigation, then why haven’t they mentioned him in connection with this case before?” journalist Alexis Linkletter asked on the podcast Unraveled that explored the case. “And more importantly, why isn’t his information visible for the public to see?”

Police have said that they do not believe that Isaac’s case is connected to the Gilgo Beach murders in which authorities found 10 sets of human remains along Ocean Parkway in 2010 and 2011 while searching for missing New Jersey woman Shannan Gilbert who was later found dead in Oak Beach.

“Before the official roll out of the website, [Isaac’s] case was utilized as a test during [the] layout process and was briefly live on the site,” police told the Press in a statement when asked about the still-functioning link to Isaac’s profile on the police website. “If you navigate to the website, not utilizing that link, that page no longer exists.”

Is Andre “Sugar Bear” Isaac Linked to the Gilgo Beach Murders?

In the two decades since the victim’s remains were found on Long Island, questions have been raised about whether the unsolved murder may be linked to the Gilgo Beach case.

www.longislandpress.com

i dont buy that his case is not related at all ...remember RH was trolling and gleaning every page abour the case that was out there, around or about the same time LE was monitoring all his web searches and internet activity. Maybe this page was a test directed to RH. Also we can speculate they recovered the bullet from bears skull, if it was not destroyed as a lead .22LR bullet, they might run some ballistic tests on the recovered bullet. There is a picture i waw of jessica taylor with her pimp and it seems bear was also on the picture or someone very similar to him/her

 

[Bobbbbberson]

i dont buy that his case is not related at all ...remember RH was trolling and gleaning every page abour the case that was out there, around or about the same time LE was monitoring all his web searches and internet activity. Maybe this page was a test directed to RH. Also we can speculate they recovered the bullet from bears skull, if it was not destroyed as a lead .22LR bullet, they might run some ballistic tests on the recovered bullet. There is a picture i waw of jessica taylor with her pimp and it seems bear was also on the picture or someone very similar to him/her

No opinion on if he is related to LISK, but why use a real person/victim for a test and website formatting? That’s weird.