Ramona Wilson, 16, Murdered June 1994; Unsolved

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    http://www.vancouversun.com/news/va...ing+females+along+highways/2332207/story.html
     
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    http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/art...f-not-taking-women-s-disappearances-seriously
    "Ramona is one of 18 girls and women officially missing or murdered on the so-called Highway of Tears, a 700-odd kilometre stretch of two-lane highway that runs from Prince George, in B.C.’s interior, to Prince Rupert on the coast. And there are others who haven’t made the official RCMP list. Most disappeared hitchhiking along this road.

    The Missing Women Commission of Inquiry, headed by Wally Oppal, released its report on Dec. 17 that found systemic bias within the RCMP and Vancouver police led to blatant failures investigating dozens of women who disappeared from the Downtown Eastside.

    It touched on the Highway of Tears, the need for safe transportation between scattered northern towns and called on the province to implement recommendations penned at a Highway of Tears symposium in 2006.

    “That’s pretty good news,” said Brenda, Ramona’s older sister. “Transportation is one of the reasons behind some of the girls going missing or getting murdered

    BBM.
     
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    From above link to Toronto Star.
    "“Let’s find some bodies, let’s find some bones, let’s find some people who remember something,” said Gibson. “Because good or bad, it’s an answer, right? And we don’t have any.”

    Gibson’s niece Alberta Williams was murdered in Prince Rupert in 1989 and dumped outside the city.

    Then, in 1995, Gibson’s niece Lana Derrick didn’t return to her mother’s home in Terrace.

    A 19-year-old forestry student, Derrick has never been found".
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It5AGKLNwqw"]Kathy Frank - Highway Of Tears Video - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    http://globalnews.ca/news/1447495/b...issing-16-year-old-ramona-wilson-of-smithers/

     
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    Keeping things tidy might have been a sign respect for her belongings. (It is known to be a Teen Hang out) So a friend might have done it, probably a Female. A male wouldn't do it.

    Remember this might not have been a singular Person. It could be Two People, A Gang, A Mob, Or A Riot!

    And It just so happen's on this particular day in Vancouver B.C. The Stanley Cup Riot occurred.
    http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01289/Report_on_the_1994_1289365a.pdf

    The only way to determine if keeping things tidy is a trait of the offender is by doing a State-wide Police search to see if there had been any other murders where the clothes had been folded and placed aside. To me it seems to be a sign of respect. You rarely kill people you respect, they die on you. Also a murder is more likely to take something small as a trophy. Nothing was mentioned, and I don't think she was raped.

    Any way, after the State-wide Police search determine how far a part each murder was. Determine an axis from each of the known murder locations, which will get a rough idea of where the murderer is operating from.

    Remember also, she was know for skipping school, and her friend said she didn't stay at her place for the sleep over that night. So she had plan's that she knew her parents wouldn't approve off.

    It's possible she might not have been murdered, but dying off wounds inflicted upon her by a 3,000 strong Stanley Cup Riot of Young People and Police that occurred on that day in Vancouver. Wounds that could have been inflicted by either the Mob, or the Police.

    I don't think it was a Murderer or Serial killer. I think it was more, an adventure of a young whimisical heart. She was known to skip school occassionally, so probably had her hang outs. She also had a part time job, so she knew people her friends weren't aware off. Whereas most parents aren't really aware of anyone in their child's life, except for their school friend's. I'd say she was probably out there, experimenting with drug's and alcohol, with her 'other friend's. (the one's from work.) As young people do.

    The Question's I would like to verify.....
    1.) Was she there (At the riot)?
    2.) Was she there with friend's? (The Riot)
    3.) Where those friend's from work?
    4.) Was she hurt?
    5.) If so by whom? (The Crowd, or The Police)
    6.) Did her friend's take her hurt from the Riot to the Forest to avoid the Police and try and help her?
    7.) Were her cloth's removed so that her friend's could get a proper idea of her injuries and supply treatment?

    I think the kid's wih her panicked when she died, quite possibly from Police over-zelousness. Who could they report it too? Not enough has been said about her injuries to be sure that it was a murder, no rape was reported. Perhaps even some of her friends folded her clothes and placed them near her, as they cried and left her. These kids would be about 30 Now, all quite possibly ex - staffers of the resturaunt she worked in. All holding this secret that might be destroying their lives.

    It could be she died as a result of the riot and was left in the Forerest as a dead weight is hard to move, and the kids with her where confused as to what they could do.
    Something to think about. The police wouldn't claim the blame for her deah even if Forensic evidence showed she died from a .... say Baton Blow. So I think this is set to remain unsolved, whilst (perhaps) those that tried to help her and she died on might well be suffering mental trauma.
     
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    Video.http://www.cbsnews.com/news/48-hour...-and-murders-along-canadian-highway-of-tears/
    Produced by Paul LaRosa, Clare Friedland and Alec Sirken[This story previously aired on Dec. 21, 2013. It was updated on May 28, 2016.]
    [HR][/HR]
    rbbm.
     
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    Has any one else noticed that the highway has a great number of Airports close by all the missing people on the Highway?
    This could mean that he flies in to a new Airport every time, Murders and then flies out from another Airport?
    So this leads to an assumption that the murderer might be hiring cars at one Airport, and dropping them off at another.

    The chances are that he probably grew up in the area, but doesn't live there any more. Because 30 years is a long time for this to be ongoing. I would also summise that the murderer is not the original killer, but perhaps a sibling that was introduced to it by a Parent and very much so possibly abused themselves. The sad thing about people abused in their youth is that they quite often become the abuser themselves later on in life. I would look back 30 years at people with abusive behavioural offenders all over the past 30 years.

    Also people requesting freedom of information to be released about Highway had their requests denied and information was deleted.
    http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2475478-ir-f15-03-accessdenied-22oct2015.html#document/p1

    Q&A: Tim Duncan explains why Highway of Tears emails were allegedly deleted


    The Information and Privacy Commissioner is conducting an investigation

    http://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2668316707/

    Flying in and out, hiring and driving the Highway to an alternate Airport, sounds like the sort of thing a Government Official might do a lot.
    But that's just suposition.

    It seems that the Government has done a lot to cover this up and the murder timeline occurrs every 3 months - occassionly six and in the beginning once a year in October.

    VANCOUVER - A list of the 18 women and girls whose deaths and disappearances are part of the RCMP's investigation of the Highway of Tears in British Columbia. They were either found or last seen near Highway 16 or near Highways 97 and 5:
    — Aielah Saric Auger, 14, of Prince George was last seen by her family on Feb. 2, 2006, and her body was found eight days later in a ditch along Highway 16, east of Prince George.
    — Tamara Chipman, 22, of Prince Rupert was last seen on Sept. 21, 2006, hitchhiking along Highway 16 near Prince Rupert.
    — Nicole Hoar, 25, was from Alberta and was working in the Prince George area as a tree planter. She was last seen hitchhiking to Smithers on Highway 16 on June 21, 2002.
    — Lana Derrick, 19, was last seen in October 1995 at a gas station near Terrace. She was a student at Northwest Community College in Terrace.
    — Alishia Germaine, 15, of Prince George was found murdered on Dec. 9, 1994.
    — Roxanne Thiara, 15, of Quesnel was found dead in August 1994 just off Highway 16 near Burns Lake.
    — Ramona Wilson, 16, of Smithers was last seen alive in June 1994 when she was believed be hitchhiking. Her body was found 10 months later.
    — Delphine Nikal, 16, of Smithers was last seen in June 1990, when she was hitchhiking from Smithers to her home in Telkwa.
    — Alberta Williams, 24, disappeared in August 1989 and her body was found several weeks later near Prince Rupert.
    — Shelley-Anne Bascu of Hinton, Alta., was last seen in 1983.
    — Maureen Mosie of Kamloops was found dead in May 1981.
    — Monica Jack, 12, is the youngest victim. She disappeared in May 1978 while riding her bike near Merritt. Her remains were found in 1996.
    — Monica Ignas, 15, was last seen alive in December 1974 and her remains were found five months later.
    — Colleen MacMillen, 16 was last seen alive in August 1974, when she left her family home in Lac La Hache, B.C., with a plan to hitchhike to visit a friend. Her remains were found the following month. In October 2012, the RCMP announced DNA evidence led them to believe Bobby Jack Fowler, who died in an Oregon jail in 2006, killed MacMillen.
    — Pamela Darlington, 19, of Kamloops was found murdered in a park November of 1973. The RCMP say they suspect Bobby Jack Fowler was responsible for Darlington's disappearance, but they don't have conclusive proof.
    — Gale Weys of Clearwater was last seen hitchhiking in October 1973 and her remains were found in April of the following year. The RCMP say Bobby Jack Fowler is also suspected in her death.
    — Micheline Pare of Hudson Hope was found dead in 1970.
    — Gloria Moody of Williams Lake area was found dead in October 1969.

    Could the Murderer be in a position of power to delete relevant information?

    B.C. government destroyed records on Highway of Tears after request to access them, former staffer says

    http://news.nationalpost.com/news/b...er-request-to-access-them-former-staffer-says

    http://www.slideshare.net/YoussoufHosh/highway-of-tears

    This may might take a full Independent Inquiry that excludes Law services, Transport and Freedom of Inforation Services from being involved. As they are amongst the most outstanding areas where the murderer might be hiding. If you notice in the interview with Tim Duncan, he never named the Supervisor that deleted the files. I can understand that as there is probably an Investigation underway and revealing such information would preventing him from getting a fair trial, or for that matter being able to be charged. Bu the problem here is definitely within the Governmental Departments themselves so should under no circumstances be investigated by their own internal Investigations team.

    I still don't believe that Ramona Wilson was a Victim of this killer. I think she died from tragic misadventure with quite possibly her friends from the Resturaunt she worked at during the Stanley Cup Riot. She might have died at one of her friends place, then taken out to Highway 16 and placed there because of it's reputation. She probably died as a result from injuries obtained from the 3,000 people strong riot. Either sustained by the rioters, or the police themselves.

    I would be interested to know how many of her ex friends are now suffering from a Mental illness. Such as Manic depression, Drug abuse, Alcoholism and delusions.

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    VANCOUVER - The RCMP's highest ranking member in British Columbia warned the provincial government last year that cutting the force's budget would hamper its ability to investigate missing and murdered women along the so-called Highway of Tears.
    The Mounties launched their E-PANA task force in 2006 to determine whether a serial killer was operating along the Highway 16 corridor in the province's north. It was eventually assigned 18 cases involving women or girls who vanished or were found dead in the region.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/0...rs_n_6614244.html?utm_hp_ref=highway-of-tears



     
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    There is definitely a Serial Killer Operating on Highways 16 and 5.
    But not 1 serial Killer, possibly more.
    And in some instances singular events of Murder, unfortunate act's of Misadventure, and being used as a dumping ground for murders committed in other areas because of it's reputation.

    This you will never pin down all deaths to one murderer, or partnered murderers.
    Multiple Murderers (I feel) have been using this route as a dumping ground for years.
    And quite possibly an embarrasment for the Government in which 1 (at least) of the Serial killers might be hiding.

    A haunted highway -- 18 or more girls and women missing or murdered. Can a new $30 million investigation help find their killers? "48 Hours" correspondent Peter Van Sant investigates.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/highway-of-tears-3
     
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    Could one of the sks be an airport limo driver or even a pilot?
    speculation.imo.
     
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    https://www.250news.com/2016/08/16/highway-of-tears-investigator-now-published-author/

    August 16, 2016[​IMG]Prince George. B.C.- Searching for answers on the Highway of Tears has become an obsession for Ray Michalko.
    (Michalko at right with his book – photo 250News)

     
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    I thought this case sounded obstructive from the get go. :thinking:
     
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    I think it is possible that it could be an Airline Pilot. But I don't think too many limo drivers would take their Limo's down Highway 16, just too rough a road. Pilot's on the other hand have lay overs after a flight and I think that is not only highly possible, but it's a great notion to put into the think tank.


    There have been serial killers identified on Highway 16. In 2012 DNA testing proved that Bobby Jack Fowler had been he killer of Colleen MacMillen, after an extensive search of International Data Bases Interpol came up with him. Microscopic DNA Samples were found on her clothes that weren't capable of being obtained at the time. He is also suspected, and perhaps proven to be (by this time) the killer of Pamela Darlington and Gale Weys.

    After taking a fresh look at Fowler he is suspected to have killed 20 up to 20 people across the US and Canada. On January 8, 1996, Fowler was convicted of Kidnapping in the 1st Degree, Attempted Rape in the 1st Degree, Sexual Abuse in the 1st Degree, Coercion, Assault in the Fourth Degree, and Menacing. Afer a woman he was assauling jumped from a first floor window naked and tied and managed to get help. Fowler was getting his car ready to leave when police arrived. A minute later and he would have been gone. He was sentenced to 195 months (16 years, 3 months) with the possibility of parole. In May 2006, Fowler died at the age of 66 in Oregon State Penitentiary from lung cancer.

    (Source 48 Hours and background research)

    If this is true (and not just a way of closing cold cases) I could explain a lot in the timeline of Highway 16.

    Then there was the other Serial Killer caught on Highway 16 Cody Legebokoff.

    The police allege Legebokoff is responsible for the murders of:
    • Jill Stacey Stuchenko, 35-year-old mother of five, last seen on October 9, 2009. She was found dead four days later in a gravel pit on the outskirts of Prince George, British Columbia.[SUP][11][/SUP]
    • Natasha Lynn Montgomery, 23, last seen August 31 or early September 1, 2010. Her body has never been found, but her DNA was later found in samples taken in Legebokoff's apartment.[SUP][11][/SUP]
    • Cynthia Frances Maas, 35, last seen September 10, 2010. Her body was found in a Prince George park the following month. Maas died of blunt-force trauma to the head and penetrating wounds. She had a hole in her shoulder blade, a broken jaw and cheekbone, and injuries to her neck consistent with someone's stomping on it.[SUP][11][/SUP]
    The Crown has said Stuchenko, Montgomery and Maas had worked in the sex trade, and that Legebokoff was addicted to cocaine and used sex workers to get him the drug.[SUP][9][/SUP]

    • Loren Leslie, 15, murdered on November 27, 2010.[SUP][12][/SUP] Leslie is something of an outlier, as she was far younger than the other victims and allegedly met Mr. Legebokoff online at the website Nexopia. Leslie was legally blind, having one completely blind eye and only 50% vision in the other.[SUP][13][/SUP] She is considered one of the victims in the infamous Highway of Tears murders.[SUP][14][/SUP]
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      Source Wikipedia. (I can't garauntee he legitimacy of it)[/SUP]
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    There is more than one Serial Killer on Highway 16, try not to think singular. I would think seasonally.
    If it's the colder
    [/SUP][SUP], and the more moderately warm months [/SUP][SUP]it's probably a local doing it. Like Legebokoff.
    During the warm months it's probably an intransient like Fowler.

    [/SUP]Highway of Tears SymposiumRecommendations Report
    A collective voice for the victims who have been silenced
    http://highwayoftears.org/uploads/H...ium Recommendations Report - January 2013.pdf

    (Source Royal Canadian Mounted Police)
    [SUP]

    [/SUP]
     
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    Do may people work at, travel to the Smithers airport?
    http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/features/missingandmurdered

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    I think she was hitching a ride from a stranger and had no idea how dangerous it was because at that time there was zero information being circulated by the police or media about missing woman and dead woman turning up on the sides of the hwy the only reason she made it into the media is because she was a child , It is abhorrent to me that devastated family members have to scream and yell do marches and all that to get traction in finding bodies. Her body could have been found much much earlier they chose not to look in a way that was serious . The hwy is just as dangerous today in 2016 as it was in 1969 and still no transportation other than hitching rides .
     

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