Ramsey house for sale again

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Maikai said:
I gave him the finger, but not so he could see it----He was a lot bigger then me.
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LOL...then I don't blame you....I would have given him the finger..."in secret" too, then.
 
http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boulder/ci_25355233/ramsey-house-sale-boulder-colorado

Ramsey house in Boulder still up for sale
This time, owners asking &1.98M for 15th Street home

03/17/2014

"A decade after it was last purchased, the 5-bedroom house at 749 15th St. remains on the market, having been up for sale, on and off, since 2008.
The current listing on the Bernardi Real Estate Group's website, now 127 days old, prices the property at $1.98 million, nearly twice what it was purchased for in 2004 — but less than it's been listed for in recent years."

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"Representatives of the Bernardi Real Estate Group could not be reached Monday.
The Ramseys purchased the house, then known as 755 15th St., for $500,000 in 1991, according to Boulder County assessor records.
In 1998, the Ramseys sold the house for $650,000 to a group of investors.
The current owners of the home, Tim Milner and his wife, Carol Schuller Milner — the daughter of "Hour of Power" televangelist Robert H. Schuller — purchased the home for $1.05 million in 2004."

Bernardi Real Estate Group
http://www.bernardirealestate.com/
 
http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boulder/ci_25355233/ramsey-house-sale-boulder-colorado

03/17/2014

Ramsey house timeline

November 1991: John and Patsy Ramsey buy the house at 755 15th St. for $500,000.
Dec. 26, 1996: JonBenet Ramsey is found dead in the basement of the home. Her family never spends another night there.
February 1998: A group of investors buys the home for $650,000, pledging to resell it and donate profits to the JonBenet Ramsey Children's Foundation.
1999-2001: E.J. "Doc" Kreis, the University of Colorado's speed, strength and conditioning coach, rents the house before being fired and moving to California.
June 2001: The address is changed to 749 15th St.
May 2004: Tim and Carol Milner buy the house for $1.05 million.
July 2008: The house is listed for sale at $2.68 million
May 2009: The house is listed for sale at $2.29 million
February 2011: The house is listed for sale at $2.3 million
2014: The house is listed for sale at $1.98 million
 
http://money.aol.co.uk/2014/03/18/would-you-buy-a-home-with-a-tragic-history/

Would you buy a home with a tragic history?
Mar 18, 2014

"There are those who will simply hope that the buyer has no idea of the history of the property and market it at full value. The new owner of the Muswell Hill flat has renovated it and put it back on the market for £350,000 - with no mention of its previous owner. However, Randall Bell, who specialises in valuing properties with terrible pasts, says that a grim history usually means owners have to drop the price by up to 35% in order to sell."

"He adds that over time the value of a property can return."

"And over the very long term, a grim history can even become a selling point."
 
Tadpole12 said:
http://money.aol.co.uk/2014/03/18/would-you-buy-a-home-with-a-tragic-history/

Would you buy a home with a tragic history?
Mar 18, 2014

"There are those who will simply hope that the buyer has no idea of the history of the property and market it at full value. The new owner of the Muswell Hill flat has renovated it and put it back on the market for £350,000 - with no mention of its previous owner. However, Randall Bell, who specialises in valuing properties with terrible pasts, says that a grim history usually means owners have to drop the price by up to 35% in order to sell."

"He adds that over time the value of a property can return."

"And over the very long term, a grim history can even become a selling point."
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BBM Good luck with that.

I don't think the "grim history" of a little girl brutally sexually assaulted then murdered will ever "become a selling point"!
 
I think a lot more time has to pass before the notoriety of the house fades from the public's mind. While I am sure JB is not "hanging around" that house (why would she?) I can certainly see why it's a hard sell. Even changing the address didn't help, I guess, although changing the appearance and address may have cut down on the gawkers who used to trespass, take photos, and annoy the first people who lived there after the Rs.
 
Just an interesting question:
Would you buy a house where there was a murder, suicide, death or signs of paranormal activity reported?
Some states require these things be reported to the buyer and some do not. You can always ask when you buy a house for the owner to sign off on this. Of course in most old houses there is usually some kind of death in a house. For example an older person who passed away in bed etc.
Just wondering what you all would do. (I hope I can ask this)
 
I don't think so. I guess it would matter what exactly happened. A natural death wouldn't bother me.
 
Charterhouse said:
Just an interesting question:
Would you buy a house where there was a murder, suicide, death or signs of paranormal activity reported?
Some states require these things be reported to the buyer and some do not. You can always ask when you buy a house for the owner to sign off on this. Of course in most old houses there is usually some kind of death in a house. For example an older person who passed away in bed etc.
Just wondering what you all would do. (I hope I can ask this)
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It's a reasonable question.

I recounted a sad story the other day where a man in my town committed a murder(s)/suicide of his family. Not in the house they lived in though. When the house finally sold, I definitely believed it was to someone who didn't come from our town. Everyone knew them. I doubt the realtor had to tell them about it b/c it didn't happen in the house. I still would think its bad karma though :(
 
I wouldn't be able to go in that house, much less live in it. I wonder who'll buy that house, if anyone.
 
I think if the house was a lot cheaper, it would have buyers. If it was worth $500k, but was selling for $200k, for instance. But at the price it is, there is a very small market, and those people can be as discriminatory as they want.
 
I live in a house where someone died a mysterious death, possible murder. I didn't know it til a few years later but I'm comfortable with it now. I don't have the money but even if I did I wouldn't want the Ramsay house.
 
Charterhouse said:
Just an interesting question:
Would you buy a house where there was a murder, suicide, death or signs of paranormal activity reported?
Some states require these things be reported to the buyer and some do not. You can always ask when you buy a house for the owner to sign off on this. Of course in most old houses there is usually some kind of death in a house. For example an older person who passed away in bed etc.
Just wondering what you all would do. (I hope I can ask this)
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A death occurring in the house wouldn't bother me. But a suicide or murder would, because those deaths are traumatic in a negative way and sometimes those souls don't "move on". They can be hard to get rid of and when they cause disruptions in the home, will "feed" off the fear or anger of the people who live there. I have encountered this twice in the past in other's homes, not my own. I deal with it by praying for the deceased. Works every time.
 
i wish someone would buy the property, demo the house and create a beautiful public space / park for the neighbourhood, including a rose garden. and if i could do this, i would. in a heartbeat.

jonbenet: "do roses know that their thorns hurt?"
 
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