"Real Housewives" Russell Armstrong Commits Suicide

[suzihawk]

Radar Online says they verified the police report.
So now Radar Online is lying?


Let's make a list of all the people who are lying about Russell. Poor Russell.

1) ex-wife (says Russell was abusive)
2) ex-girlfriend (says Russell was abusive)
3) Taylor (says Russell was abusive)
4) Taylor's friend (witnessed it)
5) Taylor's cast mates (regarding the abusive texts and emails that they read)
6) Russell's own sister (about a major anger management issue)

:waitasec:

In my opinion, it is not Taylor who is doing a major disservice to real victims of domestic abuse, it the people who are so hateful and petty towards victims of domestic violence.

Unless someone can prove she was not abused, saying she's not a "real abuse victim" is horrid. Wonder why so many women stay quiet???

Just to be clear, I have a great deal of sympathy and support for true victims of domestic abuse. It's the few that cry wolf I have a problem with. It's naive to think it doesn't happen with some women who have an agenda.

As I said in a previous post, it's a perfect con since it's socially unacceptable to doubt anyone who claims abuse lest one appears to be beating up on the victim. I believe you've proven my point.

Is RO lying? I dunno. All I know is that no police record has surfaced to date and I find that more than odd. I also find it strange that no one was arrested for this alleged brutal beating.

Her friend, Jennifur, claims she had photos of Russell's victim on her phone but 'lost' them. She claims she kept his bloody shirt hanging in her laundry room for months (who does that?) but only recently got rid of it. Right. She claims there's an 18 minute surveillance tape of the incident. Where is that? The cops saw this and still no arrest?

Neither one of them are/were angels. Both have/had anger issues. Russell's are documented from ex spouses or wives (with an axe to grind?) and Taylor's are well documented on the series with her many episodes of screaming, drunken hysterics.

Nope, I'm not buying it. Clearly you do. We'll have to agree to disagree. But let's not label those of us who don't as 'haters' or unsympathetic to true victims of abuse.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I've labeled nobody.

I just think its appalling to accuse someone of lying about abuse when there is nothing proving it. I would hate to do that and be wrong.

There are a lot of people that know the couple that believe it.

There are people who witnessed it.

The only people who say it didn't happen that know the couple are his family members who live in another state.
They lost their son and I'm sure they want to defend him.

He knew the info was coming out on the show. Most abusers are cowards. He took his life before the show aired.

Speaks VOLUMES to me.

 

[suzihawk]

Here's some interesting reading:

http://telewatcher.com/telewatching...l-armstrong-debunking-taylors-lies-and-guise/

 

[Kimberlyd125]

An article written as "fact" with no sources.
??? :waitasec:
Who is Claire Brando? When I google her name, all I can find is links to this article.

Where did she get her information from? There are no sources sited.

Blog junk IMO.

When I click on her name above the article, this is the only thing that comes up...

Claire Brando dabbles in music making, jewelry making, modeling, and baking, and is den mother to a family of rescued cats. When she's not writing, she enjoys videography and is always coming up with new projects with which to overwhelm herself.

Not really a main stream news reporter.

The article is nothing more than an opinion piece.

 

[suzihawk]

An article written as "fact" with no sources.
??? :waitasec:
Who is Claire Brando? When I google her name, all I can find is links to this article.

Where did she get her information from? There are no sources sited.

Blog junk IMO.

When I click on her name above the article, this is the only thing that comes up...

Claire Brando dabbles in music making, jewelry making, modeling, and baking, and is den mother to a family of rescued cats. When she's not writing, she enjoys videography and is always coming up with new projects with which to overwhelm herself.

Not really a main stream news reporter.

The article is nothing more than an opinion piece.[/quote]

Exactly. Yet very succinct and well writen. And an opinion shared by many.

IMO, of course.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Perhaps the opinion is shared by many because they read these "articles" and think they are factual because they are written as fact.

This "article" has no documented facts in it. It's not even an article.

But people who don't know better will read it as fact and start bashing Taylor themselves.

I think it's sick.

JMO

 

[suzihawk]

Perhaps the opinion is shared by many because they read these "articles" and think they are factual because they are written as fact.

This "article" has no documented facts in it. It's not even an article.

But people who don't know better will read it as fact and start bashing Taylor themselves.

I think it's sick.

JMO

The majority of the author's points come directly from Taylor's behavior and inconsistencies on the televised episodes of her show so I don't know how you determined they're not documented. They're right there for all to see.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion. And I'm entitled to express mine. Mine is that she's a con artist grifter whose husband conveniently offed himself so that she's free to rewrite history to suit her needs/agenda. That she holds herself up as a spokesperson and savior for all domestic abuse victims makes me sick.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Conveniently offed himself?
Wow.

 

[believe09]

I'm so happy Taylor and Kennedy are alive. I'm glad he only took his life instead of his, Taylor's, and Kennedy's. That happens all too often.

JMO

Conveniently offed himself?
Wow.

Respectfully snipped.

You are happy he took his life Kimberly, if I am reading your post correctly.

FWIW I think suzihawk's point is a fair one-Russell cannot defend himself. People commit suicide for a variety of reasons, and in this case I do not find it solely indicative of guilt regarding his treatment of Taylor. Russell decided to end his pain, not Taylor's and not Kennedy's. We wont ever know why.

I continue to be sceptical of Taylor and her motivations. I would have understood her more if she had decided not to go "public" with a story that is going to devestate their child and Russell's other family members...if the story is true as she has reported it. It was completely unecessary. IMO she cashed in on some purient public interest in her which was a result of the reality show that she was participating in. I, as in me personally, do not find her inspirational and would not run out to donate her book to a battered women's shelter. For example.

I think Taylor is better served dialing it down and sorting herself out. Out of the public eye. For the sake of her child if not for the sake of others who loved this man and likely would have supported her to some degree had she not chosen this some what bizarre method of coping. IF that is what it is.

JMVHO.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Respectfully snipped.

You are happy he took his life Kimberly, if I am reading your post correctly.

FWIW I think suzihawk's point is a fair one-Russell cannot defend himself. People commit suicide for a variety of reasons, and in this case I do not find it solely indicative of guilt regarding his treatment of Taylor. Russell decided to end his pain, not Taylor's and not Kennedy's. We wont ever know why.

I continue to be sceptical of Taylor and her motivations. I would have understood her more if she had decided not to go "public" with a story that is going to devestate their child and Russell's other family members...if the story is true as she has reported it. It was completely unecessary. IMO she cashed in on some purient public interest in her which was a result of the reality show that she was participating in. I, as in me personally, do not find her inspirational and would not run out to donate her book to a battered women's shelter. For example.

I think Taylor is better served dialing it down and sorting herself out. Out of the public eye. For the sake of her child if not for the sake of others who loved this man and likely would have supported her to some degree had she not chosen this some what bizarre method of coping. IF that is what it is.

JMVHO.

Read it again. I never said I'm happy he took his life. I said I'm happy Taylor and Kennedy are still alive and he ONLY took his life.
He could have done the old double murder suicide thing and they would all be gone.

She was divorcing him. I think the book would have been written either way. She lived the nightmare. She has tons of debt that he left her with. She has every right to tell her story.

The charity she works with is reputable and they think she IS helping others.

I suppose others think she should be silent. IMO that's the WORST thing we could ever ask victims to do.

 

[believe09]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...r-Armstrong-splits-lawyer-lover-backlash.html

Another story precipitated by what RadarOnline is reporting.

This is strange behavior. Dating someone who is her atty makes the atty's behavior unethical. Dating a married atty? Hmmm.

He denies the story. So I guess you believe Radar Online or you take them with a grain of salt.

 

[Eileen730]

If Taylor was an abused wife she had no business living her life on national television.
As i see it it was an initation to disaster.
I believe Russell killed himself because of this show. The way it made him look!
The way things were revealed on national tv would make an abuser very angry more angry than usual and would cause her and her daughter to be in very serious danger.
She had support from friends she should hae just left. I think if she had this would have had a very diff ending...allllJMO

 

[Eileen730]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...r-Armstrong-splits-lawyer-lover-backlash.html

Another story precipitated by what RadarOnline is reporting.

This is strange behavior. Dating someone who is her atty makes the atty's behavior unethical. Dating a married atty? Hmmm.

He denies the story. So I guess you believe Radar Online or you take them with a grain of salt.

LOl I thought she was dating her therapist! Mr no sox lol
he was just on another reality show ... hes making his rounds lol

 

[suzihawk]

Read it again. I never said I'm happy he took his life. I said I'm happy Taylor and Kennedy are still alive and he ONLY took his life.
He could have done the old double murder suicide thing and they would all be gone.

She was divorcing him. I think the book would have been written either way. She lived the nightmare. She has tons of debt that he left her with. She has every right to tell her story.

The charity she works with is reputable and they think she IS helping others.

I suppose others think she should be silent. IMO that's the WORST thing we could ever ask victims to do.

She's responsible for a great deal of that debt trying to keep up with her BH cohorts. Who throws a $60,000 birthday party for a five year old? With Barbie diamond necklaces as party favors?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

LOl I thought she was dating her therapist! Mr no sox lol
he was just on another reality show ... hes making his rounds lol

He is a very accomplished, respected therapist.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

She's responsible for a great deal of that debt trying to keep up with her BH cohorts. Who throws a $60,000 birthday party for a five year old? With Barbie diamond necklaces as party favors?

Another misconception.

That party did not cost the Armstrongs $60,000.
Most of it was given for advertisement.

Wasn't Russell at that party?
THEY threw the party.

He had business deals she didn't even know about.

 

[suzihawk]

He is a very accomplished, respected therapist.

That's a matter of opinion and certainly not mine. He was Russell's therapist as well since they were in couples therapy. Yet he escorted Taylor to the restaurant opening where she divulged the alleged 'abuse' to her pals. (Although very carefully worded. She said, "things got physical and I got hurt".

At any rate, it seems like an ethics violation to me for him to be talking about his dead client and the alleged abuse. Not to mention I don't hold any therapists in high regard that chooses to get paid for an appearance on a reality show. It tends to diminish their credibility, IMO.

Another misconception.

That party did not cost the Armstrongs $60,000.
Most of it was given for advertisement.

Wasn't Russell at that party?
THEY threw the party.

He had business deals she didn't even know about.

How do you know the birthday party was comped? You have a link, I presume? As a matter of fact, her dear friend, Dana Wilkey, who assisted with the party (as she did the subsequent birthday) stated:

Isn't a $60K birthday bash for a 4-year-old a tad excessive and unessecary?

I think at the time for Taylor it was something that she really felt like she wanted to do for her daughter," Dana says. "I'm not sure if that comes from her wishing someone would've done that for her at some point. I think it's really not fair for people to judge. At the time, she felt that she could afford that kind of a party. If she wants that kind of party, I feel like she has every right to do it," Dana says.
​

http://celebritybabyscoop.com/2012/03/20/dana-wilkey

Yep, Russell was at the party. It's where he gave his daughter an adorable puppy that Taylor promptly got rid of.

Taylor claims she didn't know about Russell's business dealings. I flat out don't believe her, just as I don't believe much else that comes out of her mouth. She's attempting to distance herself from the many lawsuits from the business deals that both she and Russell were involved in. MMR.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

That's a matter of opinion and certainly not mine. He was Russell's therapist as well since they were in couples therapy. Yet he escorted Taylor to the restaurant opening where she divulged the alleged 'abuse' to her pals. (Although very carefully worded. She said, "things got physical and I got hurt".

At any rate, it seems like an ethics violation to me for him to be talking about his dead client and the alleged abuse. Not to mention I don't hold any therapists in high regard that chooses to get paid for an appearance on a reality show. It tends to diminish their credibility, IMO.



How do you know the birthday party was comped? You have a link, I presume? As a matter of fact, her dear friend, Dana Wilkey, who assisted with the party (as she did the subsequent birthday) stated:



http://celebritybabyscoop.com/2012/03/20/dana-wilkey

Yep, Russell was at the party. It's where he gave his daughter an adorable puppy that Taylor promptly got rid of.

Taylor claims she didn't know about Russell's business dealings. I flat out don't believe her, just as I don't believe much else that comes out of her mouth. She's attempting to distance herself from the many lawsuits from the business deals that both she and Russell were involved in. MMR.

When I said respected and accomplished, I should have added the words, "IN HIS FIELD". Because he is. I googled him and put the info in the thread.
I'll try to find it again.
But it's here somewhere.

About the party, I read it somewhere. I'll try to find that also.

About the puppy, Taylor did not "promtly get rid" of the puppy. She tried to keep it. But Kennedy was allergic to it.
Even after the allergy was found out, she tried to see if there was a way to keep it.
It was shots for Kennedy for the rest of her time in the house, or get rid of the puppy.
Taylor made the right choice IMO. I think most mom's would agree.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Charles_Sophy

Sophy is a licensed Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine and board certified in Family Practice, Adult Psychiatry and Child/Adolescent Psychiatry.

He serves as the Medical Director for the County of Los Angeles Department of Children and Family Services. On November 6, 2008 Zimmer Children's Museum presented him the Discovery Award for Leadership, Vision and Commitment to the Community. He is a member of the following organizations: American Psychiatric Association, American Academy of Child/Adolescent Psychiatry, American College of Neuropsychiatry, American Osteopathic Association, American Medical Association, American College of Family Practitioners, and the California Osteopathic Medical Association.
He recently published his first book, Side By Side The Revolutionary Mother-Daughter Program for Conflict-Free Communication, Harper Collins, 2010.

He first appeared on national television for PBS in the show A Place of Our Own, and subsequently on other shows on several networks, including as Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew, Sober House, Today Show, Larry King Live, The Rachael Ray Show, Good Morning America, Anderson Cooper 360°, Headline News, Inside Edition, CBS Early Show.

He is the child mental health expert on Videojug, where he has addressed ADD and ADHD as well as other child mental health issues.

***JMO but I'd say he's pretty accomplished.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I'm not finding the info on the party, but I will keep my eyes open for it.
I remember reading that BRAVO paid a lot of it and that most items were provided in return for advertisment.

So, like I said, I continue to look. I read a lot and there is no telling where I saw it.

But, we can just scratch my comment for now until I can provide a link.