Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #1

[Carrington]

Mayor Casey Tanaka says he has not talked to JS.
Respects his wish for privacy,
JS very patient and rational, concerning historical home.

Issues-HLN

 

[mrsu]

BBM

I'm always baffled when I hear comments about Xanax. I hear kids are taking it for a high or something. I use Xanax, though in a very small dose (1/2 of a 0.25mg) and I don't feel any odd effects from it at all. I have an anxity issue and just half of the 0.25 helps me out. My doctor prescribed that I take 0.25 but if half works then there is no reason to take more. I guess I just don't get the "fun stuff" comment.[/QUO
cie flordia where the 17 teen year old killed his mom and dad then posted it

There is that tyler hatley case right now in fort st lucie flordia where the 17 teen year old killed his mom and dad then posted threw a big party after while they were dead and locked in the bed room..point is thats what he told his friend he had taken 3 xanax and just snapped ....

That was ecstasy not xanax.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

yes-the story I read was she called and asked him to pick up the dogs and he could not on monday,so he told her tuesday and RN said she was upset about Max and HER daughter was there with them..

It sounds like Rebecca looked at Jonah's children as her own.

IMO

 

[SyraKelly]

It sounds like Rebecca looked at Jonah's children as her own.

IMO

yes-i agree..I don't know who RN was refering to when she told the kennel owner that her daughter was there to.

 

[sunsetbeach]

I clicked on your link and it takes me to one pic. It is not blurred very much. I am not trying to be too graphic or gross, but her legs are stiff and bent. In that position, her legs would have been together if the body was not in rigor.

There appears to be a blue material tied around her neck. The hands are behind her body. With there being the orange extension cord running out from her body, her feet bound, and the blue material around her neck, I think she had been hogtied. The blue material appears to have been tied around her neck over her hair. In other words, she would have been either standing or sitting upright with her hair hanging down when the blue material was tied. The blue material is also going out to the side. Odd position if she had tied it herself, IMO. Her right hip appears to be broken and the bone is somewhat jutting out. That could have happened when she hit the table. There is too much going on here for it to be a simple suicidal hanging, IMO.

The brother was probably set up to find her. I really don't think he murdered her, but I do think it was murder.

Just my :twocents:.

MOO

Glad to see you in this thread. Your posts are always so insightful.

 

[tiredblondy]

Glad to see you in this thread. Your posts are always so insightful.

to LALaw...I second that.

 

[scorekeeper]

I clicked on your link and it takes me to one pic. It is not blurred very much. I am not trying to be too graphic or gross, but her legs are stiff and bent. In that position, her legs would have been together if the body was not in rigor.

There appears to be a blue material tied around her neck. The hands are behind her body. With there being the orange extension cord running out from her body, her feet bound, and the blue material around her neck, I think she had been hogtied. The blue material appears to have been tied around her neck over her hair. In other words, she would have been either standing or sitting upright with her hair hanging down when the blue material was tied. The blue material is also going out to the side. Odd position if she had tied it herself, IMO. Her right hip appears to be broken and the bone is somewhat jutting out. That could have happened when she hit the table. There is too much going on here for it to be a simple suicidal hanging, IMO.

The brother was probably set up to find her. I really don't think he murdered her, but I do think it was murder.

Just my :twocents:.

MOO

BBM

There appears to be 6-8 feet of the orange extension cord in the picture;
that leads me to believe it was used as the "hanging" item. If it was wrapped around her ankles and her hands; it may have caused her knees to bend like in the picture.....it doesn't appear to be around her neck...the blue scarf is around her neck; can't tell if it is "tight".

What tool did the brother use to "cut" RN down? If he had to cut the extension cord, he would have needed more than scissors...

Yes her hip looks broken...

She looks like she is posed........

 

[~n/t~]

I think Maxie's death was a terrible tragedy that sparked another terrible tragedy.

In 2 years of being around Maxie I believe Rebecca had come to love him as if he was her own child. Imo, she felt responsible. Riddled with guilt that she could have prevented this in someway even though accidents can happen without warning.

I think she was even thinking about suicide when she ask that her dog be taken care of. She felt that this would have a profound affect on the man she loved. She knew what Maxie meant to Jonah, imo. Maybe she was told it was best she didn't come to the hospital to see Maxie because his mother was so upset and she felt totally cutout.

I suppose I would have never believed this could actually be a suicide if I hadn't had the unfortunate experience of learning about another suicide over 3 weeks ago. One of our daughters best friends for 25 years hung herself. She didn't jump off of the balcony but she did bind her feet and hands and hung herself while naked from the chandelier in their foyer. Her bathrobe was on the floor. She had been married to a doctor for 28 years and they had argued the week before she died about him wanting her to go to a treatment center to get off of prescription drugs. She still had meds in the home but she chose this as her way out. Why did she decide to do it this way? Only she knows.

Maybe suicide victims that strip naked think they came into this world naked and they need to go out the same way. It is hard to get into the mind of someone determined to do this but they can be very creative and create many mysteries for those left behind.

So imo, Rebecca decided this was the best way to make all of her guilt and pain to go away. She knew her life would never be the same again.

IMO

In a way I hope it is suicide. Not that it makes it any less tragic but it would've been a decision she made for whatever reason. Perhaps the loss of Maxie and the guilt was unbearable. I do however still have suspicions of both deaths. If it was foul play, I have doubts we will ever know the truth.

Her sister says no way is it suicide. We'll have to wait and see how this tragedy unfolds.

 

[mrsu]

I'm fairly certain that at least GS goes to school in Phoenix. Did some searching on FB and found a group set up by GS. A group about her running for a class election for 2011-2012. Upon clicking thru the members of the group, most all go to school in Phoenix.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Talk of rope, possibly cords, bound, hanging, cut down, found the victim.
In light of the above, this disturbed me:

He [AS] lives in Memphis, and has worked on a tugboat, according to the city's WMC-TV station.

http://coronado.patch.com/articles/all-eyes-have-turned-to-coronado

I have never heard this before. Has anyone else?

His mother, Jonah Shacknai's ex-wife Dina, has been identified by detectives as a witness in Zahau's death.:waitasec:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

In a way I hope it is suicide. Not that it makes it any less tragic but it would've been a decision she made for whatever reason. Perhaps the loss of Maxie and the guilt was unbearable. I do however still have suspicions of both deaths. If it was foul play, I have doubts we will ever know the truth.

Her sister says no way is it suicide. We'll have to wait and see how this tragedy unfolds.

Both are equally heartbreaking.

I hope that the truth comes out whatever the truth may be.

I do not think Jonah had anything to do with it if she was killed.

If she was killed I have more suspicions toward Maxie's mother.

IMO

 

[scorekeeper]

oceanblueeyes,

(((hugs))) to you. Thank you for sharing something so personal.

score

 

[Carrington]

I have never heard this before. Has anyone else?

His mother, Jonah Shacknai's ex-wife Dina, has been identified by detectives as a witness in Zahau's death.:waitasec:

NO, this is new information.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I clicked on your link and it takes me to one pic. It is not blurred very much. I am not trying to be too graphic or gross, but her legs are stiff and bent. In that position, her legs would have been together if the body was not in rigor.

There appears to be a blue material tied around her neck. The hands are behind her body. With there being the orange extension cord running out from her body, her feet bound, and the blue material around her neck, I think she had been hogtied. The blue material appears to have been tied around her neck over her hair. In other words, she would have been either standing or sitting upright with her hair hanging down when the blue material was tied. The blue material is also going out to the side. Odd position if she had tied it herself, IMO. Her right hip appears to be broken and the bone is somewhat jutting out. That could have happened when she hit the table. There is too much going on here for it to be a simple suicidal hanging, IMO.

The brother was probably set up to find her. I really don't think he murdered her, but I do think it was murder.

Just my :twocents:.

MOO

Hi there LaLaw LTNS!:seeya:

The police chief was asked the other night if Rebacca had been hogtied and he replied 'no.'

 

[Linda7NJ]

I have never heard this before. Has anyone else?

His mother, Jonah Shacknai's ex-wife Dina, has been identified by detectives as a witness in Zahau's death.:waitasec:

IMO anyone LE talks to would be considered a witness

 

[oceanblueeyes]

NO, this is new information.

Now..........THAT gave me a real big pause because they have said she lives close by the mansion.

So is she the 'woman?'

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

IMO anyone LE talks to would be considered a witness

How so? A witness to her death? That makes no sense to me, Linda.

imo

 

[Evan's Mom]

I think Maxie's death was a terrible tragedy that sparked another terrible tragedy.

In 2 years of being around Maxie I believe Rebecca had come to love him as if he was her own child. Imo, she felt responsible. Riddled with guilt that she could have prevented this in someway even though accidents can happen without warning.

I think she was even thinking about suicide when she ask that her dog be taken care of. She felt that this would have a profound affect on the man she loved. She knew what Maxie meant to Jonah, imo. Maybe she was told it was best she didn't come to the hospital to see Maxie because his mother was so upset and she felt totally cutout.

I suppose I would have never believed this could actually be a suicide if I hadn't had the unfortunate experience of learning about another suicide over 3 weeks ago. One of our daughters best friends for 25 years hung herself. She didn't jump off of the balcony but she did bind her feet and hands and hung herself while naked from the chandelier in their foyer. Her bathrobe was on the floor. She had been married to a doctor for 28 years and they had argued the week before she died about him wanting her to go to a treatment center to get off of prescription drugs. She still had meds in the home but she chose this as her way out. Why did she decide to do it this way? Only she knows.

Maybe suicide victims that strip naked think they came into this world naked and they need to go out the same way. It is hard to get into the mind of someone determined to do this but they can be very creative and create many mysteries for those left behind.

So imo, Rebecca decided this was the best way to make all of her guilt and pain to go away. She knew her life would never be the same again.

IMO

This is what I'm leaning towards too. I assume she would have bound herself to keep from fighting for her life by instinct.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I have some random questions, not necessarily going anywhere in particular. Have any answers to these been reported in the MSM?

1. Is there any witness besides the brother who actually saw Rebecca hanging from the balcony?

2. Did the brother say where he cut her down from? If from the ground, wouldn't he have had to stand on something? What?

If from indoors, wouldn't he have had to go through the house, and wouldn't the outside doors have presumably been locked for the night? I guess he could have had a key though.

3. What did he cut her down with, and where did he obtain this item?

Just brainstorming. Or maybe braindrizzling.

 

[scorekeeper]

I have never heard this before. Has anyone else?

His mother, Jonah Shacknai's ex-wife Dina, has been identified by detectives as a witness in Zahau's death.:waitasec:

Makes you go Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

The article is dated 7/16/2011.

There's sooooo much information (and soooooo much in conflict)...

I hope LE gives another press conference soon....

Sure they may be waiting until after Maxie's funeral..