Rebecca Zahau Wrongful Death/ADAM SHACKNAI FOUND RESPONSIBLE #6

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  1. Jessica2012

    Jessica2012 Member

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    Adam certainly isn’t paranoid. In court depositions, the names of two internet trolls are stated that interfered with the case by filing false police reports at the urging of a third internet troll. They supposedly gave him information about a group that was out to get him - no matter if there was truth in it - or not. I hope he now uses some of his brother’s money to prosecute some of these folks. I would list their names, but I do not know if that is allowed.

    I loved how Adam Shacknai called Keith Greer a *******. Adam seems like a very smart man to me.

    <modsnipped> he seemed intent on clearing his name. If the Zahaus had actually had a case, they would have not fought the appeal. If they were so certain their “evidence” was concrete, why not have it confirmed twice. They knew it would very stand up to a competent Judge, IMO.

    They also know, as does Keith Greer, that the ME will never change the cause of death and Adam Shacknai will never be criminally prosecuted.

    What a farce this all has been.
     
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  2. Jessica2012

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    The show Breaking Homicide also did a reenactment of the hanging. They showed just how easily Rebecca Zahau tied herself up and went over that railing. The stunt woman even hit her head in EXACTLY the same places Rebecca did when she slid down that balcony. EXACTLY.
     
  3. Laughing

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    Link please.
     
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  4. Jessica2012

    Jessica2012 Member

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    Hi Laughing, here are a few links...


    “There is no legal judgement, which is how it should be, saying that Mr. Shacknai did anything wrong. It’s as if that never happened," said Seth Weisburst, Shacknai's lawyer in the lawsuit. Even so, Shacknai is angry with the outcome, because it deprives him of the opportunity to clear his name in court, Weisburst said.

    "Mr. Shacknai is aware that most people are not going to understand the legal particulars," Weisburst said. "He very much wanted to take any opportunity he can, whether it’s in the courts or outside of the courts, to show that this is completely baseless and outrageous -- that he had nothing to do with the death of Rebecca Zahau.”

    The terms of the settlement were not made public, but the Zahau family's lawyer, Keith Greer, confirmed that the settlement vacated the judgement in the civil case and precluded the family from taking further legal action agains Shacknai. "The civil case is done," Greer said.

    Stunning end to Zahau civil case as family settles; judgment wiped out


    A wrongful death lawsuit involving the girlfriend of a former Valley CEO has been settled, wiping out a roughly $5.1 million verdict against the business leader's brother.

    https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix...ai-wrongfuldeath-case-ends-in-settlement.html


    Wednesday's dismissal vacates the jury's verdict due to a settlement reached between her family and insurers, for an undisclosed sum.

    Shacknai, who wanted to overturn the verdict on appeal, was taken completely by surprise by the settlement and visibly angered by the maneuver.

    "I guess my insurance company did an end around this whole process,” he told reporters after the dismissal. “They believed in my innocence but they were tired of throwing money at it. They settled for a pittance. Extortion is alive and well.”

    Civil judgement against Shacknai for Coronado mansion death dismissed
     
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  5. kay74

    kay74 Well-Known Member

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    I think if she had thrown herself over the balcony it would have nearly beheaded her.
     
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  6. OverthinksIt

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    Caitlin Rother posted a public update on her FB page and - with the help of two CA civil attorneys - clarified a few things many media reports mixed up.

    The attorneys said that "for an undisclosed sum", the $5 million JUDGEMENT was vacated, but the VERDICT still stands.

    Adam's two motions to overturn the verdict & get a new trial (the ones tentatively denied by the judge on 1/25) are now moot because the civil case is permanently over. On both sides.

    Hope this helps...
     
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  7. Betty P

    Betty P Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, yes that's the way I understood it. In the judge's decision, linked in another thread by cynic, the judge explains very clearly why she denied Adam's two motions. He didn't bring much in the way of evidence and did not demonstrate that there was any juror misconduct, etc.

    Link to Judge Bacal's ruling

    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachments/text-of-january-25-tentative-ruling-pdf.168557/
     
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  8. Jessica2012

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    That was a tentative ruling, made before she even looked over any of Adam’s motions. There was no motion presented on Wednesday because the Zahaus took money from Adam’s insurance company to settle the case. Therefore, the “tentative” ruling is moot. There was nothing to rule on.

    I will still believe the newspaper articles and Adam’s lawyers that contend the verdict is also moot, over “lawyers” posting on Facebook.
     
  9. Betty P

    Betty P Well-Known Member

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    In her ruling, the judge references the arguments Adam made in his motions, so she did read them and ruled on them.

    Here's an example

     
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  10. Jessica2012

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    That is from the papers that Adam’s attorney filed for the motion date that was postponed. She never heard or read the papers that were prepared for last Wednesday’s hearing which was the true motion date. She refused to hear those or even allow them to be entered into the record since the motion was made moot since the case was settled by the Zahaus.

    Did the Zahau’s settle the case because Adam’s team was challenging the claim that Rebecca had no children, and therefore Pari was not the legal heir?
     
  11. coastal

    coastal Well-Known Member

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    No. Did Adam think that would make him less guilty?
     
  12. Betty P

    Betty P Well-Known Member

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    One would think that Adam's attorney would have included that argument in the first motion he filed. He didn't, he just argued that RZ's mother was not legally dependent on RZ for financial support. IANAL. JMO.

    Why does the Shacknai family keep trying to claim that RZ's younger sister is her daughter?
     
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  13. Seattle1

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    AS lawyers know they are are not citing a legal or factual opinion here, just marketing both themselves and their client!

    You and a couple of MSN don't seem to grasp the suit ruled by California law, and that vacating a judgement is NOT same as vacating a verdict. (IMO, it's like you're saying AS bought himself a clean record! And sorry, no amount of arrogance, entitlement, and attitude will make it true).

    Judgement (i.e., jury award) only was satisfied in full by settlement -- that's obvious.

    However, it's the California Court's final word that matters here:

    More specifically, in California, a defendant forfeits their right to seek relief of vacatur (verdict vacated) when voluntarily entering into a settlement agreement. Seeking relief in this case would further require defendant or AS to prove doing so serves the best interest of the public. Don't ever see AS proving that in this case.

    Linked several times up thread.

    ETA: Examples have already been posted in the thread demonstrating how different states have different rules as to when verdicts stand or vacated.

    In Texas, Ken Lay's verdict was vacated as he died awaiting sentencing, and didn't have ability to appeal.

    In Massachusetts, Aaron Hernandez verdict vacated upon his death under their longstanding precedent where the convictions of defendants who have pending appeals are vacated-- regardless if death by suicide.

    Again, you can't buy your verdict vacated.
     
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  14. Seattle1

    Seattle1 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you @OverthinksIt !

    Hear, hear.

    Reporter gets it right citing the advice of two CALIFORNIA attorneys. BBM
     
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  15. Seattle1

    Seattle1 Well-Known Member

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    But you won't believe the Court. Why is that?
     
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  16. Seattle1

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    Correction. Case was settled by the Parties.

    Pari is RZ's mother.

    Please be reminded this is a CALIFORNIA lawsuit. By statute, parents or siblings may file a wrongful death claim if no surviving Spouse, Domestic Partner, or Children.
     
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    Adam Shacknai: Zahau lawsuit settlement was $600K

    Adam Shacknai’s insurance company paid the settlement. As a result, the jury’s $5.1 million judgment was tossed out and the verdict vacated....

    In a surprise move, the settlement was announced this month, which wiped out the judgment and any possible appeal.

    “I hope they realize it's a low amount – even though obviously $600,000 is more money than most of us will ever see at one time in our lives – I hope they realize that it went from $5 million to $600,000,” said Shacknai.

    Shacknai also criticized attorney Keith Greer, who represented the Zahau family in their wrongful-death lawsuit.

    “I think Greer sort of outran himself on this, getting involved in this case, thinking there would be a settlement years ago. And, there never was to our credit,” Shacknai said."

    ...

    I guess he has come around to his usual self, whereas before he was stating the insurance company did badly, he is now positioning it to be above it all. What a sick *******
     
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  19. Seattle1

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    Why stipulate a non disclosure agreement if AS can't keep his mouth shut?

    Wait, he's off his public "trial persona" script now....
     
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    “I think Greer sort of outran himself on this, getting involved in this case, thinking there would be a settlement years ago. And, there never was to our credit,” Shacknai said."
    Wonder who the "our" includes. Guess, the brothers. BTW he should eat something, not looking to good.
     
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