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I'm not familiar with any of the other cases save for the Atlantic city group however I will say this, I don't find it all that coincidental that most of these victims are sex workers. It's one of the oldest and most risky "professions" in the world. Many killers target them. Police in the LISK case even discuss it and it was discussed in Lost Girls book. They're an easy target for many reasons. One being that they're all strung out on drugs and most likely living a nomadic lifestyle and estranged from family or friends. 2) they're involved in a lot of illegal activity and pimps and "co-workers" don't like to notify police because it brings attention to them (perfect example is Amber Costello). 3) they are easily accessible, especially since the advent of the Internet. To get regular woman requires work. Prostitutes will do their job regardless of whether you have a good personality or are deemed unattractive by society. its also too risky to take a regular girl in public (as Ted Bundy did) because there are too many security cameras, etc nowadays.
Off the top of my head I can think of killers who targeted this specific group like John Bittrolf, the Criagslist killer, Phillip Markoff, Joel Rifkin, Robert Yates and the Green River killer, Gary Ridgeway. The list goes on.
Why wouldn't Amber tell dave who the john was and my understanding is that she was using his phone and deleted the number before she returned it. This sounds strange...is it true? If so sounds like the John knew Dave Schaller. There is no other reason for Amber not telling Dave who he was. Sounds like one of his fishing pals or someone he knew from the Marina?
I agree the sex workers are easy targets for predators. While I am haunted by the deaths of all the GB4, Amber is the one that bothers me the most because she was from my neck of the woods, Wilmington, NC. Her sister KO said in an interview that she and Amber were hired for a bachelor party at Beau Rivage Plantation and Country Club and that's how Amber got started in the escort business, IIRC. I've been to luncheons, wedding receptions, weddings, fundraisers, fishing club holiday parties, heck my kids went to cotillion classes there! KO spoke with a distinct Carolina accent and I assume Amber did also. The time out doll placed at her cross had stuffing coming out it's mouth. I've wondered the symbolism of this....was it because of her southern accent or was she being mouthy or what? I don't think those dolls were left by a good intentioned individual. JMO
Do you know if Surfcaster procures or uses either street drugs or prescription opiates with which he could lure these women? KO seemed to think the common denominator with the 4 was drugs...coke, IIRC. But we know Amber also used heroin. I can't remember about Maureen, Melissa and Megan.
Oh her just had access to her phone. you can find out a lot about someone by looking thru their phone I bet. I still can't believe it's a coincidence that Melissa was friends with Rita Tangredi's daughter Amanda. That is too coincidental for me, especially when Bittrolff's address is so close to Kim Raffo's. I can't get past that.
Notorius, does your POI have any connections to the Bronx? Work, friends, ect?
Oh her just had access to her phone. you can find out a lot about someone by looking thru their phone I bet. I still can't believe it's a coincidence that Melissa was friends with Rita Tangredi's daughter Amanda. That is too coincidental for me, especially when Bittrolff's address is so close to Kim Raffo's. I can't get past that.
Even thought the Barthelemy's layer said the killer sounded late 20's to late 30's, I think he's older. Bittrolff's age, or the drifter's age which was 48 in 2010. Mickey Mouse and the term Half-breed. Bittrolff grew up right by the Mastic Indian Rez. I just see this murders as the work of an older individual but I could be wrong
I do, too. It's easy for an older man to sound younger, especially nowadays when smoking is less common.
I'm also leaning towards LISK having a more direct connection to law enforcement than I thought previously. It's not because LE seems to be dragging their feet so much on this case and I don't think LISK is literally a cop. Maybe related to one? I dunno. It's just a feeling.
I also think that LISK has an LE connection of some sort, even if it's just that he hangs around the edges of cop culture.
I say this because the only place I have ever seen the term "half-breed" being used, and used *a lot* is on the NYPD "theerant" message boards. So that slur is obviously thrown around by at least a non-neglible part of police force in the region. I guess it's also just possible that LISK read those boards for a while before his spree.
Interesting! The last time I heard the term before this case was probably like an old Western movie or something. Yuck.
I also think that LISK has an LE connection of some sort, even if it's just that he hangs around the edges of cop culture.
I say this because the only place I have ever seen the term "half-breed" being used, and used *a lot* is on the NYPD "theerant" message boards. So that slur is obviously thrown around by at least a non-neglible part of police force in the region. I guess it's also just possible that LISK read those boards for a while before his spree.