Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 2/5 - 2/9 - Break

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So you really think she planned to overpower him and take him down with a knife? Flores i'view she says she would shoot and keep shooting til dead. That was supposed to help convince Flores it couldn't have been her. I think she tried to do just that and the gun jammed. Why else would she have only fired once? On the stand she said she disagreed w/ JM's sequence of events. Had to be such a know it all, she almost told us the whole thing. I think that was true.

I don't see anyone willingly sitting nude on a shower drain either. I see a lot of emotion in that expression - the big pic of his face. Enigmatic, different from other portraits of him.

Well, as I said, I for the longest strongly believed the gun shot was first. Simply because it made the most sense to me. I really don't know, I definitely do not believe it was the very last thing. That makes absolutely no sense to me. And I totally agree that Travis did not sit down in the shower willingly, he would never do that. From that I have to deduct that she did have the gun trained on him in order to subdue him. Yes, that expression on his face speaks volumes to me, it tells the whole story, IMO. That is when the realization sets in, what is really going on, that this person that he thought he used to know, and had come to fear, truly was a psycho KILLER.
 
I thought Jodi's camping backpack full of makeup and STD prevention and a blow dryer and then her hissy fit to go with it was LMAO funny. Yes, you're right: as light-weight as possible through East Tennessee. No change of clothes for me, no deodorant either, definitely no knife, not much of anything. There are no latrines in that state that I saw (except occasionally in national park) and frequently no underbrush, though, which was much more problematic than stinky gear, maybe even rivaling Jodi's cell-life exposure (to revert deftly now to the topic at hand).

She sure would not find a plug to use that hair dryer!!
And toilet tissue does not grow on trees either. Going camping around here means staying at least one night. I guarantee you need the tent, a hammer for the tent stakes, food, something to drink which is heavy enough, flashlight and that's just a few of the things you need. One of my sons and a couple of friends went camping and that night, since it was warm and nice, they slept in their sleeping bags. I'm glad he had military experience, because something woke him up in the middle of the night and he said it felt like maybe one of the other guys was lightly poking him on the chest, on his legs, etc. When he looked, there were 3 skunks walking on top of his belly! I would have been skunk sprayed for sure as I know I would have been screaming and getting out of that sleeping bag, but he said he just laid VERY still, trying to breathe but a little until they finally went their way. He woke the others up and they got into the tent in record time!
Too bad Jodi did not get skunk sprayed on her camping trip.
 
I read they were young men she worked with. She named a couple of them, but couldn't remember the names of the others. Its somewhere in this long thread. I've read it in the last few days.

EDIT TO ADD: Zoey W has it in the post about her blog, I'm pretty sure.

Sorry I failed to put the quote I was replying to here. It was Neesaki, post #1070
I have always been curious as to who these alleged six men were ? I would truly love to hear from them if they even exist .
 
What a joke, just read the motions on BK's site from the defense trying to preclude Dr.D and Det.Smith. For Dr.D: "III. Conclusion
Therefore, the defense respectfully requests this Court to preclude the state from providing or eliciting testimony from Dr. DeMarte regarding her interviews of Mr. and Mrs. Hughes and Ms. Diadone", which I'm sure they didn't want anything coming from but as for the Det., they don't want him talking about his investigation of the 2009 drive... sure sounds awful fishy to me. I wonder where BN is these days?
 
Michael K. Jeanes, Clerk of Court
*** Electronically Filed ***
02/09/2015 8:00 AM

02/05/2015

TRIAL MINUTE ENTRY
DAY THIRTY-EIGHT


Prior to reconvening Defense Exhibit 915-917 are marked for identification....

Dr. Janeen DeMarte, having previously been sworn, testifies further...

Defense Exhibit 918 is marked for identification.
Defense Exhibit 919 is marked for identification....

Defense Exhibit 920 is marked for identification...

Defense Exhibits 921 and 922 are marked for identification...

4:38 p.m. Court stands at recess until 2/9/15 at 9:30 a.m. in this division...

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/022015/m6688076.pdf
 
Travis murder was done in one minute and forty six seconds - not a lot of time to run downstairs. She told Alyce she got the knife from the nightstand by Travis's bed. Jodi says that Travis tied her up, but there isn't anything other than Jodi's word. Jodi said that Travis laid out the soft rope from the bedroom into the bathroom and cut it in there, putting the knife in there. If it was me, and anyone else ,you lay it out into the bedroom, and measure from the dresser to the hall would of been more than enough to tie her up. She doesn't think things through. She just tries to make her story and the evidence match up, and they don't. If she was tied up and they had sex it would of been in some of the photos recovered showing them in the act . Jodi couldn't get Travis up to Yreka and tree in the woods so she brought along things to fulfill the tried to a tree fantasy. She was having to get kinkier to hold on to Travis and it wasn't working.

I also think Jodi took one of her grandpa hunting knives when she stole the gun. They are right there with the hunting rifles in the crime scene photos of her grandparents house. Right there with all that change stacked up and none taken.

I've always thought the the whole "he tied me to the bed" scenario was a pretty feeble attempt to account for the presence of the knife. Feeble, but I guess she thought people would buy it. Whenever I have to tie anything, what matters is whether or not the rope/ribbon/twine/shoelace/whatever is long enough, not whether it's short enough. Well, OK, I guess if I'm trussing a turkey or tying a roast, I do cut off the excess string, and heck, now that I think of it, I sometimes use a knife. But even if Travis did tie Jodi to his bed, if the rope was longer that it needed to be, jeeze he'd surely just tie an extra knot or two and not cut the rope. With a knife.

Jodi is a very experienced liar, but some of her lies are just plain ridiculous and juvenile. A lot of them, actually. "Oh, the knife? Well, um, that was Travis' knife. He tied me to his bed, for, you know, sex, and the rope was like too long so he had to cut it, and even though it was a soft rope he cut it with a kitchen knife, not scissors. So that's why when I had to kill Travis in self defense there happened to be kind of a biggish knife in the bathroom, or his bedroom, or just somewhere upstairs, I really don't know where the knife was when I had to start stabbing Travis after his gun, which I didn't even think was loaded, accidentally went off and shot him in the head, which made him even more homicidal than he already was because of me dropping his camera. And I don't know where the knife is now. Or the rope. Or Travis' gun. Or my bloody clothes. Or even the floor mats from my rental car. Have I told you about my fog?"

If there was a rope, it was Jodi's, just like the knife was Jodi's and the gun was Jodi's (or her grandfather's). Maybe she thought Travis would let her tie him up? That would have made him easier to murder.

Who knows.
 
I have always been curious as to who these alleged six men were ? I would truly love to hear from them if they even exist .

From what I understand, a few men from her work had planned a camping trip to mine for gold. JA overheard & invited herself to go with them. They did not want her go with them but she wasn't taking no for an answer according to a coworker. JA was arrested before trip occurred. Her pattern again.
 
I've always thought the the whole "he tied me to the bed" scenario was a pretty feeble attempt to account for the presence of the knife. Feeble, but I guess she thought people would buy it. Whenever I have to tie anything, what matters is whether or not the rope/ribbon/twine/shoelace/whatever is long enough, not whether it's short enough. Well, OK, I guess if I'm trussing a turkey or tying a roast, I do cut off the excess string, and heck, now that I think of it, I sometimes use a knife. But even if Travis did tie Jodi to his bed, if the rope was longer that it needed to be, jeeze he'd surely just tie an extra knot or two and not cut the rope. With a knife.

Jodi is a very experienced liar, but some of her lies are just plain ridiculous and juvenile. A lot of them, actually. "Oh, the knife? Well, um, that was Travis' knife. He tied me to his bed, for, you know, sex, and the rope was like too long so he had to cut it, and even though it was a soft rope he cut it with a kitchen knife, not scissors. So that's why when I had to kill Travis in self defense there happened to be kind of a biggish knife in the bathroom, or his bedroom, or just somewhere upstairs, I really don't know where the knife was when I had to start stabbing Travis after his gun, which I didn't even think was loaded, accidentally went off and shot him in the head, which made him even more homicidal than he already was because of me dropping his camera. And I don't know where the knife is now. Or the rope. Or Travis' gun. Or my bloody clothes. Or even the floor mats from my rental car. Have I told you about my fog?"

If there was a rope, it was Jodi's, just like the knife was Jodi's and the gun was Jodi's (or her grandfather's). Maybe she thought Travis would let her tie him up? That would have made him easier to murder.

Who knows.


I cannot get enough of your posts T-4-2... :blushing:
 
I have always been curious as to who these alleged six men were ? I would truly love to hear from them if they even exist .

Pretty hard to fathom that after she has been physically and mentally abused by 1 man, she would go off with six. If her story were true and she suffered from PTSD she would steer clear of a situation with many men, and no to few women. According to JA she hardly knew them. She is a smart one. Perhaps she was going to use them for target practice...the responsible gun owner she was. I won't put LOL because it is not funny.
 
One of the (zillion) things I wish could be 'splained is this:

Yreka LE was surveilling (word?) her the night before she was arrested. It was reported that they saw her sitting in a car in grandparents' driveway having a lengthy conversation with another female. Next morning, there is a rental car at the house, loaded up with her stuff (including gun ammo and (hidden) knives.

It is her birthday IIRC.

Q's:
1) is Mom the other female?
2) is JA explaining to other female she needs to run? (Did she confess to the murder or just say she has to escape due to mounting rumors and suspicion?) Shades of Scott Peterson and OJ....
3) Does Mom/Dad rent car for her (Happy Birthday Jodi!!! Here's our gift for you!)
4) why are "Matt's books" and "Daryl's kitchen items" in the car?
5) How is it EVEN POSSIBLE that LE didn't search that car from top to bottom after they found GUN AMMO AND KNIVES?
6) Why did Mom a) know there was a gun that should have been found? And, more incredulously b) ask LE about it some time later??
8) Why was the gun TAPED TO THE ENGINE BLOCK if JA was simply taking it with her on a camping trip WITH FIVE MEN? (none of whom were friends of hers apparently)
8) Where was JA really going, armed and in the stealth of daybreak?
9) OMG, she packed CONDOMS?
10) Why hasn't any of this been introduced in court? My Lawd, if ever there was evidence of, say, A CRAPLOAD OF THINGS!, one would think any or all of the above would be...

Okay, rant over. For the record, Canadians have 50 different words to say "sorry" and I'm offering them all up here. To all of you for patiently dealing with my pharmaceutically-induced posts this weekend AND most importantly, to the Alexander family for the unspeakable horror they have had to endure.

BBM. Yep. Condoms. When Scott Peterson was captured, he was carrying a supply of Viagra -- but no condoms. (No need for contraception when murdering your child a month before he's due to be born is an option...?)

By the way, as I was looking online just now for verification about the Viagra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Peterson and elsewhere), I came across this, another nice story of psychopathy:

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/7068694/ns/dateline_nbc-books/t/inside-scott-peterson-trial/#.VNiklbDF9PI

(The Wikipedia article is worth a read. Scott's Fleeing Murderer's Packing List is pretty scary. I wonder if Jodi read it.)
 
I liked the lies about the college classes (starts on page 136 IIRC) where she took real estate classes at Monterey Peninsula College. Oh, I almost forgot the college courses for Spanish. What a LIAR!!! I wonder what she used for a HS diploma? :facepalm:

Not that I'm the least bit obsessed or anything...

The "college classes" struck me, also, as a particularly absurd lie, even for Jodi. No high school diploma, as you point out. So I went to the MPC website, where I read:

Who may attend MPC? Anyone 18 years or older may attend MPC. You may also attend if you are under 18, provided you have graduated from high School, have a G.E.D. or attend as a concurrently enrolled student (grades 6-12). In addition to the general application for admission, some programs have specialized applications requirements and procedures:

http://www.mpc.edu/admissions/faqs

So, yeah, I guess maybe she could have enrolled in classes. I still don't believe she did. Just like she's never offered an x-ray as proof of a broken finger, she's never offered proof of enrollment at MPC. If she could prove these things, why wouldn't she?
 
So you really think she planned to overpower him and take him down with a knife? Flores i'view she says she would shoot and keep shooting til dead. That was supposed to help convince Flores it couldn't have been her. I think she tried to do just that and the gun jammed. Why else would she have only fired once? On the stand she said she disagreed w/ JM's sequence of events. Had to be such a know it all, she almost told us the whole thing. I think that was true.

I don't see anyone willingly sitting nude on a shower drain either. I see a lot of emotion in that expression - the big pic of his face. Enigmatic, different from other portraits of him.

I really thought, as some have speculated here, that she used a stun gun on him right before the "Calvin Klein Not So Artistic Photo On The Shower Drain Shot". I have wondered if they could tell, in an autopsy when the body was that many days decomposed, if it was just bruising or from a stun gun.

I think we all have to keep in mind that her story of what happened is based on making her sound innocent of any wrongdoing. She saw all the evidence they had against her before she told her story. I can imagine Nurmi correcting her on which parts of her story would not work in her favor or support her claims of self defense. Her needed her to paint a picture of innocence.

I do not believe that there was time for her and Travis to review and delete photos as they were taken. If that were true then why were there not crappy ones she deleted shown as thumbnails? There was not enough time between shots to review photos. If there was, wouldn't she have deleted the crappy ones, her being a professional photographer and all?
 
I'm afraid to post this morning... The Lamb has been known to slam the door in my face more than once :giggle:
And no offence Lambchop, but I have always thought your Lamb pic jumping rope was an owl! I just recently noticed it was not an owl at all....

Did anyone else notice that TA didn't have any money problems at all until JA moved to Az. with out a job? He had a huge heart, and helped out by letting her clean his house for extra money. She "borrowed" money from him constantly.... With all her evilness, he was unfortunately supporting her and himself. She caused him to have money problems. Just paying all his bills and JA constantly asking/begging/stealing money, he began to have trouble with his finances. He didn't sign up for that.
 
Thanks Hatfield. Seems you've pondered some of my thoughts too, and your theories align with many of mine..

I have been vocal on this forum about the possibility of her plying the "escort" business for $$$. I feel from all we've heard about her demonstrative sexuality, this past week's revelation of her "Goddess" complex, combined with Gus Searcy' s "gift" of a new cell phone, the $$$ given to her by her internet cafe pal Paul and her two cash deposits to her WaMu bank account in Monterey the day after spending the night with Matt and his friend, there is compelling evidence that she didn't share her "gifts" for free.

I have lived in "Sin City" for 23 years and a pretty, overtly sexual creature like CMJA doesn't even need to visit the seedier parts of this town to make a buck - hanging out at a bar or nightclub is pretty much all it takes to engage frat boys or conventioneer nerds to hook up.

Your post addresses several other of my many questions and I truly appreciate your responses, but I'm afraid to hijack this forum with this discussion. As a bit of a novice to this type of cyber-interaction, I'd hate to wear out my welcome. If nobody else objects, I'd love to keep this dialog going.

In regards to believing she might have been in the sex trade; she wrote in her journal that she had "four offers" for one Friday night. The use of the word offers set off an alarm when I read it. Who says that? She seemed to have a lot of receipts for the Flying J truck stops on her trip.
 
Thank you, geevee, and thanks to the others who have welcomed me. This is a good site and its seems the people are well informed. I'm trying to catch up and still like a few more pages. I'm determined to catch up BEFORE tomorrow when court resumes. Then, when the day ends, I plan on coming here to see if I missed any thing.

Welcome friend!!!:loveyou::loveyou:
 
It wouldn't surprise me if JA was living out of her car much of her time in Mesa, and showering at the truck stop facilities. Why pay rent when she spent most of her waking hours staking out/following TA?
 
I agree. Jodi Arias is a murderer, a liar and EVIL through and through. I want her to get the death penalty. Absolutely. Folks were asking I can't put my finger on it but something about DB creeps me out. I felt the same way listening to him talk. It made me wonder why on earth her parents never ever met him. Then again, I would have went after one of my daughters the day they thought they could go drop out and go move in with Bobby. My family would fight harder to get our lost puppy back then they did about their own daughter. I do not understand what that implies. I don't know if they had just had it with her and they washed their hands of her. I would swing rope to rope to go after one of our girls, so I just do not know about this family how and why. There is so much we will never know about how the Jodi Arias we have in front of us got here. Bad seed?

It was Daryl that I took the money amount she had saved up. I certainly agree I would not believe her account! It is interesting how different what he opined to seemed MUCH less favorable to Jodi when Dr. Demarte details the interview with him. The same goes for Matt.Big time! Here is DB http://youtu.be/okbAekjQVdA

I certainly do not wish for anyone to infer that I believe DB, or anyone save for Jodi, is to blame for murdering Travis. It was Jodi Arias and Jodi Arias alone.

Jen. Trial Diaries latest blog http://t.co/M9wE7yAllP

Here's the thing with JA's parents. We know some of the things that JA was up to while living at home. For example: hitting brother with baseball bat, growing pot, talking back to/hitting mom, doing very poorly in school, etc. Those things are the minor things. We have not heard everything that the family went through with her. For all we know she could have done some really horrible things to the point that her parents were afraid to even go to sleep for fear of what she might do if they did. Parents, while loving their children, are only human and can only take so much. When you have one bad seed and 3 other children at home, do you let the bad seed run the show and decide that the safety of the other 3 don't matter as much? Or do you breathe a huge sigh of relief when that bad seed decides to remove herself from the home, your life and your other 3 children's lives?

I do not for one minute blame her parents for not going after her when she left home. JA is a person that is uncontrollable. JA is a person that will harm anyone and everyone that does something "against" her. Even though I disagree with how her parents have dealt with JA since she brutally murdered Travis, I can not and will not find fault in them for the way the let her stay gone when she was younger without going after her and demanding she return home.

MOO
 
I read they were young men she worked with. She named a couple of them, but couldn't remember the names of the others. Its somewhere in this long thread. I've read it in the last few days.

EDIT TO ADD: Zoey W has it in the post about her blog, I'm pretty sure.

Sorry I failed to put the quote I was replying to here. It was Neesaki, post #1070


JA had more stories than the Empire State Building! She told the police that she was going to return the kitchen stuff to Daryl and the books to Matt. After all those years! She said she was going on a camping trip. She rented a car when she could have just rode with the guys that she did know? She told her father that she was leaving and he would not see her or talk to her for a while.

She lies like a rug.
 
In regards to believing she might have been in the sex trade; she wrote in her journal that she had "four offers" for one Friday night. The use of the word offers set off an alarm when I read it. Who says that? She seemed to have a lot of receipts for the Flying J truck stops on her trip.

I really think she just wrote that for Travis to "accidently" read. I think she was trying to make him jealous. He apparently had other plans that Fri.night, and she couldn't stand it. She said she took her journal everywhere she went.
 
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