Rita Tangredi, 31, and Colleen McNamee, 20, 1993-94 ** John Bittrolff ARRESTED **

[Mountain_Kat]

Am I crazy or wasn't one of these 3 victims (Tangredi, McNamee or Costilla) found with the nails on one hand painted? I could have sworn I read that somewhere, but can't find it now. If that recollection is correct, then here's a whopper of a coincidence:

http://7online.com/archive/8360554/

Press reports from April 1996 indicate that two severed legs were found on the shores of Davis Park, on Fire Island, by two seasonal residents walking along the beach. The toenails of one foot were painted red and the right leg had 3 1/2-inch scar on the rear calf and L-shaped scar on the shin. The left leg had a 3 1/2-inch scar on the inner side.

 

[Justiceforever]

Am I crazy or wasn't one of these 3 victims (Tangredi, McNamee or Costilla) found with the nails on one hand painted? I could have sworn I read that somewhere, but can't find it now. If that recollection is correct, then here's a whopper of a coincidence:

http://7online.com/archive/8360554/

Press reports from April 1996 indicate that two severed legs were found on the shores of Davis Park, on Fire Island, by two seasonal residents walking along the beach. The toenails of one foot were painted red and the right leg had 3 1/2-inch scar on the rear calf and L-shaped scar on the shin. The left leg had a 3 1/2-inch scar on the inner side.

I remember reading that too Kat but for the life of me, I don't remember where! I have a little time this morning, I'll see if I can find it. Have a great day everyone!

 

[LikeAHunter]

It IS a great synopsis, Just K! But I'm going to echo what I said in an earlier post: while I WANT JB to be responsible for all the murders, I'm really starting to think that LE has some sort of DNA evidence on at least one of the GB4. Reasons I think this:

1. They didn't tell MSM that they had DNA for CM and RT.
2. In the press conference, Spota made a point of saying there is no connection.
3. Spota also made a point of saying that there were very specific things about the crime scene that only the killer and LE knew.
4. Lastly, Spota specifically said it would be "cruel" to get the hopes up of the GB4 families because there is no indication that they are connected.

Again, I WANT this guy to be repsponsible. I HOPE he is. But I have my doubts.

 

[Sigh Sister]

Am I crazy or wasn't one of these 3 victims (Tangredi, McNamee or Costilla) found with the nails on one hand painted? I could have sworn I read that somewhere, but can't find it now. If that recollection is correct, then here's a whopper of a coincidence:

http://7online.com/archive/8360554/

Press reports from April 1996 indicate that two severed legs were found on the shores of Davis Park, on Fire Island, by two seasonal residents walking along the beach. The toenails of one foot were painted red and the right leg had 3 1/2-inch scar on the rear calf and L-shaped scar on the shin. The left leg had a 3 1/2-inch scar on the inner side.

Maybe you were thinking of this young girl?:

Princess Jane Doe - found in Blairstown Cemetery in 1982

"Physical description: A young Caucasian female between 14-20 years of age with a thin frame. Eye color is unknown. When she was found she was wearing red nail polish on her right hand but no polish on her left, almost as if she started painting her nails but didn’t get to finish."

It also says someone came forward and said they knew her and said she was from Long Island.

https://letsfindthem.wordpress.com/tag/murder-victim/

Here's her thread in the UID forum:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...UFNJ-14-18-Jul-82&highlight=Princess+Jane+Doe

 

[Sigh Sister]

http://www.princessdoe.org/details.html

"Cause of Death: Blunt force trauma to the head. The actual weapon was not found or
determine"

"The victim was found without any footwear or undergarments."

Blairstown is pretty much a straight shot west from Long Island.

JB would have only have been around 16 at the time, but......interesting.

 

[topratedsleuth]

.....LE has NEVER said anything about DNA being found on GB4 or AC4.

Great analysis, Just K, especially from the perspective of "bringing current" avenues of investigation previously explored here. I think the MB connection has to be significant, that would be just too large of a coincidence. With the DNA issue, I think there's a shelf life for it to be collected in an evidentiary fashion; unless I'm wrong, the only victims whose remains were found quickly enough were the two JB is currently accused of killing.

Like the human body itself, DNA decays with increasing rapidity in the presence of heat, water, sunlight, and oxygen. Those essential conditions of life also speed the process of death, potentially rendering DNA useless for analysis in a matter of weeks.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/48815/how-long-does-dna-last

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Maybe you were thinking of this young girl?:

Princess Jane Doe - found in Blairstown Cemetery in 1982

"Physical description: A young Caucasian female between 14-20 years of age with a thin frame. Eye color is unknown. When she was found she was wearing red nail polish on her right hand but no polish on her left, almost as if she started painting her nails but didn’t get to finish."

It also says someone came forward and said they knew her and said she was from Long Island.

https://letsfindthem.wordpress.com/tag/murder-victim/

Here's her thread in the UID forum:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...UFNJ-14-18-Jul-82&highlight=Princess+Jane+Doe

Thank you, SS. That is exactly who I was thinking of. (I have so many irons in the fire right now, I can't keep one case straight from the other. Ugh.)

 

[Justiceforever]

Maybe you were thinking of this young girl?:

Princess Jane Doe - found in Blairstown Cemetery in 1982

"Physical description: A young Caucasian female between 14-20 years of age with a thin frame. Eye color is unknown. When she was found she was wearing red nail polish on her right hand but no polish on her left, almost as if she started painting her nails but didn’t get to finish."

It also says someone came forward and said they knew her and said she was from Long Island.

https://letsfindthem.wordpress.com/tag/murder-victim/

Here's her thread in the UID forum:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...UFNJ-14-18-Jul-82&highlight=Princess+Jane+Doe

That's the only one that I could come up with too. I thought no, this can't be who Kat was thinking of because she was in Ohio.

 

[Justiceforever]

Thank you, SS. That is exactly who I was thinking of. (I have so many irons in the fire right now, I can't keep one case straight from the other. Ugh.)

Do you think there is a connection?

 

[Just K]

I leave all options on the table because LE said there is no "link." A link, to me, means solid evidence. But having no link does not mean they are unrelated.

I still would be curious to know more about whether this JB was ever involved in group criminal behavior. He could still be involved in some shady scam (real estate, sex parties, LLC stuff, etc) rings or be on the fringe where he knows the whereabouts of girls and who/when they are leaving appointments or parties, etc. He may have been involved loosely with the LLC end of things and had the opportunity or occasion to act on his sick desires. Being in construction he obviously had access to many uninhabited homes or businesses. He could have done his killings at job sites. No one would question his being there or even the sound of power tools, etc. And, if it was like the abandoned housing development, there might not even be anyone living in sight of the construction sites.

 

[Sigh Sister]

That's the only one that I could come up with too. I thought no, this can't be who Kat was thinking of because she was in Ohio.

She was actually found in NJ.

 

[Justiceforever]

She was actually found in NJ.

Thank you for the correction. Do you think there a chance that she is related?

 

[LINative13]

Nice post just k.
Remember the CCC?
I hope they are connected.

 

[Sigh Sister]

Thank you for the correction. Do you think there a chance that she is related?

Well, probably not because they do have a suspect, but haven't been able to corroborate what he and his wife claim. And JB would have been around 16 which is really young, but you never know. Here's a really good article on the case:

http://archive.longislandpress.com/2012/08/02/identifying-princess-doe/

On the other hand, the fact that the cause of death was blunt force trauma to the head, shoes and underwear were missing(we don't know what was missing from CM and RT, but these are possibilities) , and it's almost a straight shot west from Long Island to Blairstown made me wonder.

 

[Just K]

Mountain Kat:there was also "Cherries" From the combined list of possible victims, I found this about nail polish:
Originally Posted by Seaslug44 View Post
These are the other severed legs that were found on the North Shore!
SOURCE: Clues to a mystery, Police believe pair of severed legs washed up on North Shore belong to torso found earlier in Westchester: [NASSAU AND SUFFOLK Edition]
Strickler, Andrew; Staff writers John Valenti and Michael Frazier contributed to this story.. Newsday [Long Island, N.Y] 29 Mar 2007: A06.
So, from the above, we learn that "Cherries" was stabbed multiple times and that her legs may have been washed up on the other side of the island from where her torso, in a suitcase, was found.

So, from the above, we learn that "Cherries" was stabbed multiple times and that her legs may have been washed up on the other side of the island from where her torso, in a suitcase, was found.

On March 3, 2007, another woman’s torso, stabbed and stuffed inside a suitcase, washed ashore in Mamaroneck. One of her leg bones and her right foot with her toe nails half polished washed up from the Long Island Sound later on March 27 among the rocks in Cold Spring Harbor. On March 28, her severed leg bone washed up in a plastic bag a short distance away at the estate of Cablevision billionaire James Dolan. The rest of her has never been found. Medical examiner records show this woman was either black or Hispanic, 5’10”, 180-200 pounds and had a tattoo of two CHERRIES above her right breast. The only clues are what was found with the body: a black Protégé suitcase manufactured by InGear—sold exclusively at Wal-Mart—a red, blood-soaked camisole with a Spanish brand label, lavender Champion sweatpants, a blue bra and a tan long-sleeved t-shirt, manufactured by Voice, and ripped up scraps of paper, possibly a page from a calendar, reading “cinco” and “begin to live.”

Originally Posted by Seaslug44 View Post
These are the other severed legs that were found on the North Shore!
SOURCE: Clues to a mystery, Police believe pair of severed legs washed up on North Shore belong to torso found earlier in Westchester: [NASSAU AND SUFFOLK Edition]
Strickler, Andrew; Staff writers John Valenti and Michael Frazier contributed to this story.. Newsday [Long Island, N.Y] 29 Mar 2007: A06.
So, from the above, we learn that "Cherries" was stabbed multiple times and that her legs may have been washed up on the other side of the island from where her torso, in a suitcase, was found.

So, from the above, we learn that "Cherries" was stabbed multiple times and that her legs may have been washed up on the other side of the island from where her torso, in a suitcase, was found.

 

[Just K]

Well, probably not because they do have a suspect, but haven't been able to corroborate what he and his wife claim. And JB would have been around 16 which is really young, but you never know. Here's a really good article on the case:

http://archive.longislandpress.com/2012/08/02/identifying-princess-doe/

On the other hand, the fact that the cause of death was blunt force trauma to the head, shoes and underwear were missing(we don't know what was missing from CM and RT, but these are possibilities) , and it's almost a straight shot west from Long Island to Blairstown made me wonder.

It says here that Princess doe was likely from Arizona and spent time in LI.
http://archive.longislandpress.com/...cess-doe-from-arizona-lived-on-long-island-2/

 

[Just K]

Nice post just k.
Remember the CCC?
I hope they are connected.

Yeah, and he could very well have followed, even been a member of, that slimy crew, CCC.

 

[Aleph]

Nail polish = foot fetish


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[marie-chantal]

Nail polish = foot fetish


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If the "unique" item of clothing that is missing from Rita and Colleen is a shoe, then that certainly makes things more interesting in terms of the other people who have been found. It also makes me think of the AC victims, who had their shoes removed.

 

[fieldnotes]

On Tanya Rush in light of latest arrest.

http://www.longislandpress.com/2014/07/25/cops-seek-tips-for-dismembered-womans-murder-case/