SC - Todd Kohlhepp, known and possible victims

[margarita25]

(Have you guys found anything to indicate he might have been in Georgia recently? I know he was under psych care there years ago, but any indication he was there recently? Tia. )

 

[Gardener1850]

Okay, I'm going through and randomly clicking a few names on the long list (thanks Gardener!)

Julie Vess should be taken off. It looks pretty much like a suicide for her. Prescription drugs are pretty much what killed her if you look back, and LE believed she could self-harm.

Lila Mae Martin seems to be a bit older for how young(ish) TK was in 2004. Just noting that.

Sherri Pujzak doesn't seem like a good fit. She may have been last seen with a hispanic male, and I see that on here (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/puzjak_sherri.html), one of the images is a 2005 mugshot. No one seems to be looking for her and there are few details of her disappearance, making me wonder if she was possibly involved in risky behavior that is more likely a reason for her disappearance. Orangeburg is also kind of far down I-26.

Christine Ludwig looks like a good candidate IF he felt comfortable going all the way to the south side of Columbia. She was still missing 6 months after her disappearance, and her car was found in a Bi-Lo parking lot but she wasn't -- so she was likely picked up by someone.

Similar to Christine, Lisa Shuttleworth is worth looking into IF he was willing to drive all the way to Aiken area... that's a long drive from Spartanburg, honestly, but we have no idea of his methods/motives. Here's a good article on Lisa's disappearance. http://www.wrdw.com/home/headlines/Nine-years-later-Aiken-Co-woman-is-still-missing-168565446.html

Going to keep working on looking these up. Thanks again, Gardener!

Thanks! I'm hoping someone will make a spreadsheet like Kadoober did in the James Worely possibles thread and we can move these less possibles off the main list. I was hesitant to look for victims from Columbia area but then I read somewhere he went to college at University of South Carolina. So he would be familiar with Columbia if that is true (I'm not sure if we can believe his resume or not).

 

[Gardener1850]

Did a timeline of TK's movements ever get posted? If so I totally missed it Nevermind, I finally figured out how to work the new forum (very nicely done, btw) but there has not been a timeline posted.

Someone had posted they would work on one today (I'm not %100 sure who so I won't name anyone).

 

[Gardener1850]

On Toasha Nichole Rices (aka Nikki Green) forum post #48 references her fB being hacked and that the hacker states Toasha (aka Nikki) is at "the beach". Then post #53 goes on to say that a person comments that Toasha (aka Nikki) is at "the beach" with David Griffigh and shows a link that he's indeed her friend on fB. David Griffigh profile appears to be a fake profile.

This sounds so much like how TK refers to missing people in his post being at the beach or with a boyfriend and how TK messed with CDC's fB and toyed with his family. I wonder if TK owned a black car back then?


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Oh that is really scary. I wonder if the authorities are aware and have checked out that fb?

 

[BlkMtnGirl]

From the events we know now, fall seems to be this monster's "active" season. (Of course, these are only the crimes we know about.)
Kidnapping and rape - November 25, 1986
Superbike shootings - November 6, 2015
KB kidnapping and Charlie Carver shooting - August 31, 2016

 

[bluevioletfour]

I agree Lava. Even his neighbors talked about him being a "prepper" which could just be his way of dismissing why he had the weapons, water, food, etc. It makes me wonder if he had other women he kept alive for awhile. From what little info I've read, it seems like he is a true psycho serial killer. I'm betting he has left a trail of victims throughout his life. I hope he is like BTK, and will want the notoriety of what he's done so will blab more about what he's done since he thinks he is so smart.

 

[Gardener1850]

Hi Gardener!
I'm trying to figure out why he would be reporting to INDIANA as a sex offender. That is was I remember seeing in the threads anyway. If that is the case, I think we should check missing and homicides there as well.

Great Job on the list, by the way!!

Thanks Much!!!

Thanks and yes I am completely confused on the Indiana link too. Let us know if you find out. I couldn't find any indication he ever lived there.

 

[bluevioletfour]

If someone had the time and patience, it would be interesting to take a victim's last known date they were seen, and correlate the date to his fb postings to see if there are any comments that would take on a sinister meaning knowing what we know about him now?

 

[Gardener1850]

I would not rule her out as maybe being a possible victim of TK and here is why.

This is just speculation but I have been speculating that when TK was using his dark humor about having people make his "TKA Real Estate" website and he joked something about threatening to not feed them for 3 days and he got great results.

Well I wonder if maybe he really did kidnap someone who knew how to build websites and forced them to build that website for him. I have been looking at that list of people and in that link for Julie it says this

"Julia was employed by Met Life as a system analyst."

She had computer knowledge. I tried to go to the TKA Real Estate website again and it has been taken down. I was wondering if there was a way to view the source code of the website to see if a person left any hints of them building it under duress.

I think Julies body was found a long ways from her car and if I am not mistaken it was not all that far from where TK lived. I think LE just assumed suicide because she did have an argument and prescription in her system but it doesnt make sense she would be so far from her vehicle with purse left in vehicle and cell phone on ground like she may have been kidnapped. Body was not near the car. Almost a mile away if I read it right. I think TK could have taken her and maybe she died of starvation or heat stroke if TK had locked her in conditions like we saw the other victim chained up.

Its too bad the website is still not up because programmers could have left remarks in the source code that may have been hints if they were doing it under duress.

The bottom line is I wouldnt rule her out as a possible victim just yet. And I think it is good if we check any other possible victims to see if they had computer experience in building websites. When I read TK dark humor it really struck me that he really did kidnap someone to help startup that business website.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?84604-SC-Julie-Vess-48-Greenville-16-May-2009


ETA I wanted to add that TKs dark humor comments about not feeding the people who helped build his website was on the website itself in one of the sections. Since that site is down I cant list the direct quote I remember seeing there. It was scary and felt all too real to me after what we know now about him.

Wow! I don't know anything about building websites. Can the code still be retrieved? Would the website have been taken down by LE while they investigate? As for the not feeding people comment, the media picked up on it and quoted it:

On the website for Kohlhepp's real estate firm, TKA Real Estate, the "About Us" page writes about the group's modern marketing strategies.

"We went out and got professional graphic designers, web developers, specialists in marketing in a variety of fields, and gave them a job. Then we threatened not to feed them if it didn't work," the page reads. "It's amazing the motivation you can get after day three!"

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/sto...ld-increased-after-she-went-missing/93284146/

Sick, sick, sick.

 

[bluevioletfour]

Warning: Morbid thought: This is a scary thought, but what if he was making his fenced in compound a place where he would let victims loose and then hunt them down. Why else would you need the fence and bear traps? I'm just speculating, but the amount of money he seemed to spend on this land and machinery he either had to rent or buy seems so out of the ordinary.

 

[BlkMtnGirl]

Do we have a thread for Catherine Ann?

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http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...mpsonville-24-October-2016&highlight=Blauvelt

 

[Gardener1850]

(Have you guys found anything to indicate he might have been in Georgia recently? I know he was under psych care there years ago, but any indication he was there recently? Tia. )

I have not seen any recent trip or connections there but I was thinking that IF his motive for the Superbike murders was some type of revenge killing he might also have planned a trip to GA at some point to kill or kidnap someone from his early childhood that he thought did him wrong in the institution. I tried to search for crimes against former nurses/doctors or other employees of Georgia Mental Health Institute but didn't find anything. I think this is worth looking into because no one would suspect a former 9 year old patient to come back as an adult and kill their dr/nurse/janitorial staff/guards, etc. and he lived in another state so he would not be a suspect in any foul play done to an employee decades later. It's just something else to consider when looking for possible victims of TK.

 

[RDR_Lisa]

I posted this earlier but can't seem to find it now. It's early and this whole case has me rattled to the core.

Tracy Wright & TK were both members of the same yard sale type group on FB, added my the same person. Being added by the same person isn't really that uncommon but it stuck out to me in this case.


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[Nichiwa]

Hi all, long time lurker here! Been reading through this all weekend its crazy!

Anyway this just popped up on my twitter:

[video=twitter;795610679755599873]https://twitter.com/bsmithnews/status/795610679755599873[/video]

And also this:

http://wspa.com/2016/11/07/kohlhepp...killings-after-meeting-with-mom-says-sheriff/

Sorry if my formatting is rubbish, tapatalk won't seem to let me log in and I'm on my mobile.

Anyway I thought the fact he wants to see his mother is pretty telling..

 

[skibaboo]

Hi all, long time lurker here! Been reading through this all weekend its crazy!

Anyway this just popped up on my twitter:

[video=twitter;795610679755599873]https://twitter.com/bsmithnews/status/795610679755599873[/video]

And also this:

http://wspa.com/2016/11/07/kohlhepp...killings-after-meeting-with-mom-says-sheriff/

Sorry if my formatting is rubbish, tapatalk won't seem to let me log in and I'm on my mobile.

Anyway I thought the fact he wants to see his mother is pretty telling..

I just saw that on a news report. He said he would show them the burial sites if he could talk to him Mom first, they agreed.

That gives me all kinda creepy feelings!

 

[Nichiwa]

I just saw that on a news report. He said he would show them the burial sites if he could talk to him Mom first, they agreed.

That gives me all kinda creepy feelings!

Yeah I know right?! Creepy enough to bring me out of lurkerdom!

Great maps by the way!


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[Aeronomy]

Hi all, long time lurker here! Been reading through this all weekend its crazy!

Anyway this just popped up on my twitter:

[video=twitter;795610679755599873]https://twitter.com/bsmithnews/status/795610679755599873[/video]

And also this:

http://wspa.com/2016/11/07/kohlhepp...killings-after-meeting-with-mom-says-sheriff/

Sorry if my formatting is rubbish, tapatalk won't seem to let me log in and I'm on my mobile.

Anyway I thought the fact he wants to see his mother is pretty telling..

It is telling...but telling of what? It's interesting. I feel like he probably broke down like a baby in front of his mom, but who knows. That interaction could have went in so many directions. I hope they had a mental health professional (or two) nearby observing closely.

 

[ColourPurple]

I agree Lava. Even his neighbors talked about him being a "prepper" which could just be his way of dismissing why he had the weapons, water, food, etc. It makes me wonder if he had other women he kept alive for awhile. From what little info I've read, it seems like he is a true psycho serial killer. I'm betting he has left a trail of victims throughout his life. I hope he is like BTK, and will want the notoriety of what he's done so will blab more about what he's done since he thinks he is so smart.

I also wondered whether he could have other victims currently alive and chained up somewhere. I'm reminded of Marc Dutroux . Two of his victims died of starvation while he was in police custody.

 

[skibaboo]

I posted this earlier but can't seem to find it now. It's early and this whole case has me rattled to the core.

Tracy Wright & TK were both members of the same yard sale type group on FB, added my the same person. Being added by the same person isn't really that uncommon but it stuck out to me in this case.


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I've added Tracy Wright to the Case Map

I couldn't find any info about where she was last seen so I have just put the pin at Spartanburg

 

[ColourPurple]

I just saw that on a news report. He said he would show them the burial sites if he could talk to him Mom first, they agreed.

That gives me all kinda creepy feelings!

Very child like. Reminds me of the James Bulger murder. One of the boys who killed him wouldn't confess until his mother had reassured him that she would still love him no matter what.The difference being James' killers were only ten years old.