Shannan Gilbert accident or murder?

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I’m interested in hearing theories on Shannan Gilbert, if she was murdered or died accidentally. I always thought it was too big of a coincidence that Shannan’s body was found in the same vicinity as the other victims, Maureen, Megan, Amber, Melissa, Jessica, Valerie, Karen, Peaches, the baby and the male. And they all were sex workers. But after learning the details of Shannans sister, Sarrah killing Mari, their mother. Makes me wonder if maybe Shannans death was an accident. Sarrah was apparently hearing voices and schizophrenic, is it possible Shannan had an episode that night in May 2010? I can see points on both sides please share with me your thoughts or clues you may have
 
I’m interested in hearing theories on Shannan Gilbert, if she was murdered or died accidentally. I always thought it was too big of a coincidence that Shannan’s body was found in the same vicinity as the other victims, Maureen, Megan, Amber, Melissa, Jessica, Valerie, Karen, Peaches, the baby and the male. And they all were sex workers. But after learning the details of Shannans sister, Sarrah killing Mari, their mother. Makes me wonder if maybe Shannans death was an accident. Sarrah was apparently hearing voices and schizophrenic, is it possible Shannan had an episode that night in May 2010? I can see points on both sides please share with me your thoughts or clues you may have
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Yeah, it's not an accident. That's just something everyone has to repeat like a mantra for one of several reasons, the top one being that they otherwise could get sued by the person who all but single handedly has turned this bizarre nonvestigation around, ie John Ray. IMO, obviously.
 
I say it was murder. I posted about this on another thread but I will post it here too. Shannans family paid for a second autopsy which discovered both 'horns' of her thyoid bone and her larynx were missing. This is highly significant not least for the fact, the hyoid bone and its horns are one single piece of bone that form a 'U' shape. It takes a significant amount of force to break both legs off that U shaped bone, this kind of force is associated with strangulation.
That fact has been very much understated in this case as if to suggest there are other reasonable explanations for her completely broken hyoid bone. There are not. Then when you add to that the fact the autopsy stated her larynx was also missing, that is something else too. The larynx is soft tissue. The fact the autopsy could identify her larynx was missing says there had to be enough soft tissue remaining to identify that fact.. I hate to say it but, when you consider she had been missing for a year and a half when her remains were discovered laying face up, for there to have been enough soft tissue remaining in her throat area for an autopsy to note her larynx was missing suggests her remains had not been there for that long. I suspect she was held captive for some of that time.
 
I say it was murder. I posted about this on another thread but I will post it here too. Shannans family paid for a second autopsy which discovered both 'horns' of her thyoid bone and her larynx were missing. This is highly significant not least for the fact, the hyoid bone and its horns are one single piece of bone that form a 'U' shape. It takes a significant amount of force to break both legs off that U shaped bone, this kind of force is associated with strangulation.
That fact has been very much understated in this case as if to suggest there are other reasonable explanations for her completely broken hyoid bone. There are not. Then when you add to that the fact the autopsy stated her larynx was also missing, that is something else too. The larynx is soft tissue. The fact the autopsy could identify her larynx was missing says there had to be enough soft tissue remaining to identify that fact.. I hate to say it but, when you consider she had been missing for a year and a half when her remains were discovered laying face up, for there to have been enough soft tissue remaining in her throat area for an autopsy to note her larynx was missing suggests her remains had not been there for that long. I suspect she was held captive for some of that time.
This right here is why I joined. This was one of those cases I couldn't get off my mind in particularly, Shannan. I knew there was more to it, never heard the autopsy until now.
 
This is MOO I haven't spoken on Shannan before, never felt that I had enough insight. I also agree that I think she was murdered, the problem I have though is stretching her to LISK. I've Been quietly reading the threads about her and I think this may call back to the court case she was due to testify in. And the person I suspect the most is Pak or Hackett.
 
I’m interested in hearing theories on Shannan Gilbert, if she was murdered or died accidentally. I always thought it was too big of a coincidence that Shannan’s body was found in the same vicinity as the other victims, Maureen, Megan, Amber, Melissa, Jessica, Valerie, Karen, Peaches, the baby and the male. And they all were sex workers. But after learning the details of Shannans sister, Sarrah killing Mari, their mother. Makes me wonder if maybe Shannans death was an accident. Sarrah was apparently hearing voices and schizophrenic, is it possible Shannan had an episode that night in May 2010? I can see points on both sides please share with me your thoughts or clues you may have
I believe she was being chased. Even the neighbor whose door she knocked on reported seeing the vehicle that she was running from. The screams in her 911 call were of true terror. Now that we know Rex held his victims captive and he liked to "hunt" them, did he hold her captive somewhere? Her body wasn't discovered until a year later. I don't know what level of decomp she was in when they found her. Did her body depict being deceased for a year?
 
This is MOO I haven't spoken on Shannan before, never felt that I had enough insight. I also agree that I think she was murdered, the problem I have though is stretching her to LISK. I've Been quietly reading the threads about her and I think this may call back to the court case she was due to testify in. And the person I suspect the most is Pak or Hackett.
Exactly - it’s a conundrum.
 
I believe she was being chased. Even the neighbor whose door she knocked on reported seeing the vehicle that she was running from. The screams in her 911 call were of true terror. Now that we know Rex held his victims captive and he liked to "hunt" them, did he hold her captive somewhere? Her body wasn't discovered until a year later. I don't know what level of decomp she was in when they found her. Did her body depict being deceased for a year?

I agree with you up until you mention Rex. Rex tangled with Amber Costello and was chased off by her room mates, he lured her out away from them and got her to leave her phone at home. Shannan had a driver, so Rex would have to contend with Pak also. From reading rexs bail docs, it's clear that he was very much on his own in this. The call she made to 911 had pak and brewer in the background. I can't see rex being there also everything points to him being a loner, and I'm sorry but unless LE come out and say that the swingers parties can be verified I will take that with a pinch of salt very much my own opinion
 
Murder, jmo. RH's "HK" doc makes it clear he's an incredibly resourceful and adaptable murderer. But LE will never be able to prove it unless some prior contact with Shannan is unearthed in RH's mountain of electronic devices (which it might be, and I'm hoping it will be). MOO, though. To me, the way they found SG reminded me of the AC murders with Eastbound Strangler.

No accident, jmo.
 

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