Shannan Gilbert Found, death declared an accident. What do you think?

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  1. mrspatton

    mrspatton New Member

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  2. LINative13

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    The clam dance?? Ha I havent done that in a year or two. We used to pull those little abstards out by the bucket by the old frank and dicks. You bring the lemon drop kush, I will bring the summer ale. The hell with a crab net...how about a clam rake?
     
  3. Jenny9

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    yes you are correct.the ways the bushes are entangled its like vines growing sideways,so if she was running into the bushes from oak beach community it would be imossible you would not be able to do it ths why those big machines were brought in.now if she was running from ocean pkwy she would be ble to be found where she was.
     
  4. PickleChris

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    They were doing a training exercise..Or at least that's what LE said to the press when they found #1 of the GB4. That quickly was changed a day or two later. They were officially searching for SG when they stumbled upon all these remains. You can paint your own picture about what they were doing over there, I will stick to a training exercise. They didn't seem to care about her the night she went missing in May and they want us to believe they were still searching 6 months later?
     
  5. Jenny9

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    can you explain what very very dense means?are you talking about the bushes?have you ever tried to run thru them when you lived there?
     
  6. Seaslug44

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    I have no time to educate about the differences between a freshwater wetland and a saltwater tidal marsh. All I can say is that anyone from the area would clearly know that the wetlands where SG was found is not a saltwater tidal marsh.

    This is what a saltwater tidal marsh looks like;

    And this is what the freshwater wetlands where SG was found looks like;
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    Here is another view of a saltwater tidal marsh;
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    And here is one more photo of the freshwater wetlands next to Oak Beach;
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    If you cannot see the difference then there is not much more I can do to prove it to you other than offering a taste of the water.
     
  7. Jenny9

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    have to disagee on the darkness.it was 5 15 am that she alledgedly left jb house and got to gc house i would say between phone calls and running around and if witnesses claim they saw her running then it was not dark out t all,at 5 20 am on may 1 2012 it was beaking daylite,im up everyday at this time and its not dark.the sun might not be up but the sky is light.also if it was dark how could people see her?i dont recall many lights in the community and i have been there several times visiting friends.imo
     
  8. mrspatton

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    I believe sunrise was closer to 6 am that day. There are some lights of course where the houses/residents, but once she entered the marsh there are no lights. I know how dawn can have some light but even so it was just sunrise, not a lot of light and I still believe that it didn't help the situation if Shannon was in the marsh and lost. So maybe not dark, but certainly not complete bright daylight.
     
  9. Jenny9

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    mrspatton,we are not attacking you and i dont believe the marshes really matter if ther salt or fresh water.what we are getting to was how much "ground water was actually there on may 1st.sg mother very clearly stated she would not run towards water,she was afraid of it.so being that she ran thru these very dense thicket and may have drowned in water which you are saying could have been 2 ft or more dont you think she would have saw it?and not ran towards it?and also how long ago did you move from the community?i know some are long time residents but alot are also newer.so maybe you dont know who the newer neighbors are?imo
     
  10. mrspatton

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    You only need to watch numerous crime shows to see parents who can't believe their children did something, from meeting someone, to marrying someone, to taking drugs, to many many things. Shannon wasn't thinking rationally and was scared, and from reports (not yet substantiated I think from the autopsy?) high. None of this points to her acting in a "normal" manner. And she actually wasn't running towards the water but away from it, ie the ocean, and heading towards the parkway. However, marshes can be tricky, she very well could of started in and then stepped into water without seeing it. Plus two feet of water may not have deterred her like the ocean may have. But think quicksand regarding the marsh, which you don't know is quicksand until you are in it. I'm really not sure what you are asking about newer neighbors but it seems you are saying, again, there are some evil types there. I suppose that is possible anywhere and I am certainly not saying JB had no culpability in the events up to her death or is a "nice" guy so to speak. Actually it does matter about the freshwater vs salt as to how marshes change with the tides on a daily basis. Oak beach has many summer residents that come and go, as well as older full time residents. But overall its pretty tight and most people know each other. I've been away for a few years, but spent about ten years as a summer resident.
     
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    Mrs Patton,
    Do you know "fluke"? Have you heard his theoires as to who killed SG, GB4 and the other bodies along ocean parkway? Interesting stuff...you should check it out.

    How closely have you been following this case? I think you could be an asset to the board but do not take everything so personally. For the most part; everyone on this board is very knowledgable about the case, and the minor details. It has taken alot of time and effort to try and put everyhting together.

    I know not everyone at Oak Beach eats babies and there are some very nice people there. I know a few people that own houses there. Lets also not pretend JB, SG, and MP were at JB's house to figure out logistics to get food to staving kids in north korea. They were doing drugs and SG was a prostitute.

    LINative13
     
  12. mrspatton

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    I don't now fluke but I'll look at the posts. Thank you.

    Thanks too for your support. I'll try to roll with the punches. lol
     
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    clam rake is a good idea. maybe one fitted with a screen to catch the small stuff. I will grab my 5 ml booties and gloves, full suit and beach plum bush costume (I don't think we are supposed to be back there). But don't worry I have a plan if LE shows up, I'll flail and roll around in the reeds screaming "help me I'm drowning!" and you can say you stopped to save me, if that doesn't work, i'll pay for your summons. It will be worth it, with a little luck and adventure we find the long-lost fortune of One-Eyed Willie.

    LDK... check, and summer ale and white IPA both are available in cans now...oh and please leave your turkey loads at home, if we encounter an evil-doers I'll get on all fours behind him and you push him backwards.
     
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    Sorry about that Windsor, it's just a spider bite and you should recover just fine, but if the left side of your face goes numb you should see a doctor, in fact there is one just down the road on the left (47 larboard ct.), he will treat you.

    I am of mixed race so I have mixed feelings, I am also racist, specifically I am a "mixed-breed supremacist" which is why this case has touched a nerve. I also have a disorder in which from time to time I think innocent people are the devil.
     
  15. To Kill a Mockingbird

    To Kill a Mockingbird Karma Will Get LISK!!!

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    allegedly - the good doc is in need of a serious sunny vacation.
    so he has chosen to become a snowbird and spend his winter in sunny florida - so - Windsor will be out of luck if looking for any doctor to help her at 47 larboard court.

    TKM

    :seeya::seeya::seeya::seeya::seeya::seeya:
     
  16. To Kill a Mockingbird

    To Kill a Mockingbird Karma Will Get LISK!!!

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    Welcome to the Websleuths site regarding the LISK case.

    As you can see, people are very passionate about it, but are really very nice.

    Enjoy.

    TKM
     
  17. To Kill a Mockingbird

    To Kill a Mockingbird Karma Will Get LISK!!!

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    "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."
     
  18. LINative13

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    No turkey load.....check.
    5 Mils boots and gloves.....check.
    Clam Rake......check.
    LDK/misc. ales.....check.
    IPOD docking station (we are going to need some music).....check.
    Gatorades and the like.....check.
    Plastic bags for treasure.....check.

    If we pull a back muscle or cut ourselves by accident down there, there is a doctor over at OB that wrties perscriptions for pain medicine and a CVS 15 minutes away. And his wife writes them when he is out of town.

    What else?
     
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    Wear a life vest. Rumor has it the area is deep water.
     
  20. LINative13

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    Im bringing my scuba equipment and some safety lines because the current RIPS when the tide is incoming/outgoing. Also something to hang my clothes on. I also hear the marsh wont let you in unless you take your pants and shirt off and run through the thorn bushes.
     
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