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I work in the lovely state of Delaware. I was born and raised in the Bronx, in NYC. I am a scientist by trade. If there is ANYONE on the planet that tells it like it is, it is ME. I don't do subtlety, I don't do nicely-nicey, I don't know how to mince garlic, nor my words. It's the facts, ma'am, and just the plain old facts, you either like me, or you don't. I don't try to win hearts or minds, but I do expect people to be swayed by facts when I give them facts. That's me, who I am, to the core.
Having moved down here, to me, the "almost south", I had a very rude awakening. I was coached, my first year down here, on how to improve my performance at work. I needed to "soften" my approach. Say things like "it would be better if...." And "I think it is...." Instead if my usual, "do it like this it works better" or "you're wrong, it is like this.."
In any case, I get Juan, and I cheer him at times when I am angry at JA. But that approach, like my approach, does turn off some people. And in his case it may bring out the protectiveness in the protective type older men with daughters. Another thing about Martinez's approach, it gave me agitata to listen to for long stretches, and I would find I would just end up tuning it out, spacing out, and having to read what I had missed on WS. The jurors can't go back and read WS - so if they tune out for a while, they miss it, period.
For those of you who watch the TH on HLN, we heard, over and over, that The defense kept JA on the stand for days and days so that jurors would form a bond with JA. The jurors didn't come into watching the trial preloaded with hate for her like most of us did. So they may have bonded a little, even before Martinez got her on cross. They didn't know what we knew before he crossed on her. And it may have worked well enough to make 4 jurors not able to give her the death penalty.
Anyhow, possible lessons to be learned going forward. I don't dislike Martinez, nor his style, all the time. I do think he should become more judicious at using it, and he would become more effective. JMO. I am a better manager now that I live in the almost south. I have learned how to be less direct when I need to be.
I had never seen this part of the 48 Hrs interview, from the reporter's viewpoint.
I knew she was shallow and vain and narcissistic but da. yum.
And from just this 3.5 minute video I can see how a sheltered guy like Travis did not stand a chance against her when she decided she wanted him. No, I don't believe he walked up to her and stuck out his hand. She was on HIM.
Just da. yum.
Meeting CMja
Yes, exactly. To me, it sounded like, and I think he even said, that he didn't think "they" (I guess meaning him) should have the burden b/w choosing life or death for someone. Well, that was their burden. I mean, it's obvious that he chose life, so why didn't he just admit it and say it? He could have just said, well I think her age and her lack of criminal history outweighed the crime that she committed. Why didn't he just say that instead of talking about the "burden"?
So is the AZCentral interview with Juror 6 at 10pm their time? Do you know when they will post the video, or is there a way to watch it live?
BBM (bolded by me) - There are several of us here that think that was her premeditated attempt to make it "appear" that there must have been more than one person.
I see a lot if similarities between the Jodi foreman and Casey's foreman. And that's all I can say without getting a TO.
Juror 6 q and a with Chris Williams
(there are just a few on twitter - more later - he is editing)
Was the 8-4 split male vs female?
No gender split.
What did they think about the gas cans?
Gas cans were key.
Did she notice how much JA was not paying attention... Doodling, writing, etc ?
They noticed and it seemed disingenuous
How does she think JM did? I loved him.
She was impressed.
How did she vote in the penalty phase and why?
She felt aggravators outweighed mitigators.
Agree! Only thing worse... Listening to Nurmi drone on and on endlessly..while sniffing that finger of his! "Lets go back" arghhhh "anal anal anal" I thought I'd die from boredom
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Is this paraphrased, cause there's only one aggravator?
Nope...but will they was more the question.
I wonder how much will be released at the conclusion of sentencing (it will end, right?) I'd like to read what went on in chambers re: ALV.
If I only had a dollar for every time he said 3-hole wonder....
BBM (bolded by me) - There are several of us here that think that was her premeditated attempt to make it "appear" that there must have been more than one person.
Yup...and I just had this nagging feeling that I would NOT like what he had to say when I heard he had been interviewed so I stayed clear of it. But, from what I've read here...you couldn't be more right.I see a lot if similarities between the Jodi foreman and Casey's foreman. And that's all I can say without getting a TO.
Is this paraphrased, cause there's only one aggravator?
Even Nurmi looked at him at times with open admiration...LOL