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  1. bessie

    bessie Verified Insider

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    :seeya:When posting about a particular case, PLEASE :please: type the victims' names in the title of your post.

    :tyou:

    Use this thread to discuss other potential victims in the Southern/Soutwestern states.

    The dates from the FBI timeline are meant as a general reference since exact locations were not provided for all timeframes.

    SOUTHERN and SOUTHWESTERN US
    February 5, 2007 to February 8, 2007
    October 24, 2008 to November 5, 2008 Arizona
    September 11, 2009 to October 03, 2009
    December 17, 2009 to December 29, 2009
    July 18, 2010 to July 22, 2010
    February 2, 2012 to February 18, 2012: Keyes flew to New Orleans
    cruise until February 11
    February 16, 2012, Keyes set a home on fire in Aledo, Texas
    March 6, 2012 to March 13, 2012

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220907"]Timelines *NO DISCUSSION* - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]


    http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/201...released-in-serial-killer-case/keyes-timeline

    http://www.fbi.gov/anchorage/press-...he-publics-assistance-concerning-israel-keyes
     


  2. Lucky 1

    Lucky 1 not all those who wander are lost....

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    This is a slightly consolidated timeline for the period between Samantha Koenig's murder and IK's arrest. I pulled the information from GGE's timeline and simplified/consolidated for clarity. Please let me know if you see errors.

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220907"]Timelines *NO DISCUSSION* - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]


    http://www.fbi.gov/houston/press-releases/2013/serial-killer-spent-time-in-texas

    http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/201...released-in-serial-killer-case/keyes-timeline

    2/1/2012: Anchorage, Alaska
    Samantha Koenig kidnapped/murdered.

    2/2 - 17, 2012:
    Alaska Airlines flight (Anchorage, Alaska to Houston, Texas round-trip).

    2/2-17, 2012:
    Vehicle rental (Thrifty); 2011 Kia, Texas license plate CN8M857; drove 2,847 miles - Houston, TX. On February 12{?}, 2012, Keyes rented a blue 2011 Kia Soul from a Houston car rental agency and had the vehicle until February 18, 2012. Rental records show 2,847 miles were logged in that time period. In addition to Keyes’ time in Houston, investigators suspect he spent a large part of his time in the Dallas area, where his family lived.
    {I am confused by the information about the car, one thing says the 2nd, another says the 12th was when it was rented. The source information conflicts, so I went with what made sense. If he didn't rent it on the 2nd when he flew into Houston, how did he get to N.O?}

    2/2 – 5/2012: Lafayette, Lousiana
    Hotel reservation (Americas Best Value Inn) - Lafayette, Louisiana.
    (Although he denied it, investigators believe Keyes may be responsible for a homicide in Texas or a surrounding state during this time.)

    2/6/2012: New Orleans, Lousiana
    Hotel reservation (Prytania Park Hotel) - New Orleans, Louisiana.

    2/6 – 11/2012: New Orleans, Lousiana
    Carnival Cruise Lines trip - round trip from New Orleans, Louisiana.

    2/12 – 16/2012: Dallas/Fort Worth area
    During February 2012, Keyes admitted traveling through the cities of Azle, Aledo, and Cleburne, Texas. Investigators suspect Keyes’ rental vehicle became stuck in a muddy, rural area, possibly near Cleburne, Texas, between February 12 and 16, 2012.

    Glen Rose, Texas Area - Keyes is also suspected of visiting the Post Oak Cemetery in the Glen Rose, Texas area between February 12 and 16, 2012.

    2/16/2012: Azle, Texas.
    National Bank of Texas robbery - Azle, Texas.
    In the morning hours of February 16, 2012, Keyes set a home on fire in Aledo, Texas. Following the arson, he robbed National Bank of Texas in Azle, Texas.

    2/17 thru ??: Anchorage, Alaska.
    Returns to AK, creates ransom note for Samantha and disposes of her body in Matanuska Lake near Palmer, Alaska.

    2/24/2012: Anchorage, Alaska.
    Posted ransom note for Samantha Koenig at Connor's Bog Park

    3/1/2012: Anchorage, Alaska.
    Used Koenig's debit card to make ATM withdrawal

    3/6/2012:
    Alaska Airlines flight (Anchorage to Las Vegas).

    3/7/2012: Wilcox, Arizona.
    Used Koenig's debit card to make ATM withdrawal

    3/8/2012: Shepard, Texas.
    Used Koenig's debit card to make ATM withdrawal at Peoples State Bank, Shepard, Texas.

    3/8/2012: Lordsburg, New Mexico.
    Used Koenig's debit card to make ATM withdrawal

    3/10/2012: Humble, Texas.
    Used Koenig's debit card to make ATM withdrawal, Humble Community Bank, Humble, Texas.

    3/11/2012: Wells, TX
    Keyes' sister got married. His family, formerly Amish, are members of the "Church of Wells".

    3/13/2012: Lufkin, TX
    Keyes was arrested for access device fraud related to using an ATM card of Anchorage murder victim Samantha Koenig. Keyes was arrested after alert officers noticed his car matched the description of a car being used for illegal ATM withdrawals. At the time of his arrest, Keyes had three telephone numbers in his possession. Investigators determined the numbers were of prostitutes—all from the Houston area.
     
  3. Lucky 1

    Lucky 1 not all those who wander are lost....

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    http://www.missingpersonsofamerica.com/2012/03/missing-texas-forty.html

    The Missing Texas Forty

    With 40 people missing from two adjoining counties, is it something sinister or is it just a coincidence?

    Written by Jerrie Dean
    Researched and edited by Helen Harriman-Oliver

     
  4. Lucky 1

    Lucky 1 not all those who wander are lost....

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    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/942/8/

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/case_report_html/942

    Kenny Dwayne Ebarb
    Case Report - NamUs MP # 942
    Case Information
    Status Missing
    First name Kenny
    Middle name Dwayne
    Last name Ebarb
    Nickname/Alias Ebard, middle name Dewayne
    Date last seen July 15, 2005 00:00
    Date entered 12/12/2008
    Age last seen 27 to 27 years old
    Age now 36 years old
    Race White
    Ethnicity
    Sex Male
    Height (inches) 69.0 to 70.0
    Weight (pounds) 140.0 to 150.0
    Circumstances
    City Humble
    State Texas
    Zip code
    County Harris
    Circumstances
    Kenny was last seen in the vicinity of the 21000 block of Countryside Rd. near FM 1960 East. His vehicle was located abandoned and burned the following day on Huffman Rd. in Huffman, TX.
     
  5. Lucky 1

    Lucky 1 not all those who wander are lost....

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    http://www.nampn.org/cases/willis_brian.html
    Brian Willis
    Missing Since: February 4, 2012 from Harris County, Texas
    Classification: Missing
    Date Of Birth: N/A
    Age: 55
    Height: 5'2"
    Weight: 180 lbs
    Hair Color: Gray/Partially Gray
    Eye Color: Green
    Race: White
    Gender: Male
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Right eye tears up/ squints
    Case Number: M1202002

    Details of Disappearance
    Mr. Willis's "case type" is listed as involuntary. He was last seen on February 4, 2012 in Harris County, Texas.
     
  6. Lucky 1

    Lucky 1 not all those who wander are lost....

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    http://www.nampn.org/cases/james_arthur.html
    Arthur James
    Missing Since: February 11, 2012, from Springdale, Arkansas
    Classification: Endangered Runaway
    Date Of Birth: May 5, 1994
    Age: 17
    Height: 5'8" or 173 cm
    Weight: 200 lbs. or 91 kg
    Hair Color: Brown
    Eye Color: Brown
    Gender: Male
    Race: Asian
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Arthur has a tattoo on his
    right forearm.
    Case Number: NCMC1216773

    Details of Disappearance
    Arthur James was last seen on February 11, 2012, in Springdale, Arkansas. He has a tattoo on his right forearm.
     
  7. Lucky 1

    Lucky 1 not all those who wander are lost....

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    http://www.lrcf.net/missing/1763/1763.html

    MARK LARRY RHINEBURGER
    Missing Since: February 15, 2012 at 5:30AM
    Age: 39
    Missing From: Shell gas station on FM 2100, Indian Shores subdivision
    Sex: male
    Height: 5 ft. 10 in.
    Weight: 170 Lbs.
    Eye Color: Brown
    Hair Color: Black
    Race: White
    Birth Date: February 15, 1973

    http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/king...cle_277ffde2-cfea-5938-bdb8-25c7cf8d2c98.html

    Standoff with police Wednesday in Liberty County tied to investigation of missing Crosby man

    Is the Romayor neighborhood a hotbed of criminal activity?
    Posted: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:12 pm

    By VANESA BRASHIER

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164232"]TX TX - Mark Rhineburger, 39, Crosby, 15 Feb 2012 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]


    http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Man-leaves-trail-of-mystery-after-sudden-3445886.php

    Man's disappearance leaves another Liberty County mystery
    By Lomi Kriel | March 29, 2012 | Updated: March 29, 2012 11:09pm

    http://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...es-of-3-Liberty-County-men-remain-4246204.php

    Mystery of 3 missing Liberty County men remains unsolved
    By Cindy Horswell | February 2, 2013 | Updated: February 2, 2013 11:06pm

     
  8. Lucky 1

    Lucky 1 not all those who wander are lost....

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    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/case_report_html/14948

    Case Information
    Status Missing
    First name Edwin
    Middle name Clark
    Last name Rogers
    Nickname/Alias Clark
    Date last seen December 25, 2011 18:06
    Date entered 06/08/2012
    Age last seen 62 to 63 years old
    Age now 64 years old
    Race White
    Ethnicity Other
    Sex Male
    Height (inches) 55.0 to 56.0
    Weight (pounds) 190.0 to 200.0
    Circumstances
    City Cleveland
    State Texas
    Zip code 77327
    County Liberty

    http://www.missingpersonsofamerica.com/2012/01/edwin-rogers-missing-man-from-texas.html

    Questions remain in Tarkington man’s disappearance

    http://www.missingpersonsofamerica.com/2012/01/edwin-rogers-missing-man-from-texas.html
     
  9. Lucky 1

    Lucky 1 not all those who wander are lost....

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    Dennis walked the loop around his house every day, but March 8th got lost and has never been found. Someone overheard something in a bar and now they are looking into foul play.

    IK was in Shepard, TX on 3/8/12. Only about 10 miles (per google) to Plum Grove, where Dennis' house was.

    http://www.khou.com/news/Liberty-County-man-called-911-for-help-before-disappearing-142152773.html

    http://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...term-memory-loss-still-missing-in-3431322.php

    What happened to Dennis Rogers?
    Man with short-term memory loss still missing; foul play suspected
    By Cindy Horswell | March 23, 2012 | Updated: March 24, 2012 12:01am

     
  10. digndoodle

    digndoodle New Member

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    WOW Lucky1, when you read the articles you provided makes one wonder if these 3 men were all victims of Keyes......Good Work Lucky1

    I didn't see this link posted so I will add

    http://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...es-of-3-Liberty-County-men-remain-4246204.php
     
  11. Lucky 1

    Lucky 1 not all those who wander are lost....

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    I noticed this when doing the timeline, thought I would see if anyone has any ideas why.

    3/7/12: Wilcox, Arizona.
    ATM withdrawal

    Wilcox to Shepard - 1,034 miles - about 14 hours, 20 minutes

    3/8/12: Shepard, Texas.
    ATM withdrawal

    Shepard to Lordsburg - 960 miles - about 13 hours, 16 minutes

    3/8/12: Lordsburg, New Mexico.
    ATM withdrawal

    Lordsburg to Humble - 923 mi – about 12 hours 49 mins

    3/10/12: Humble, Texas.
    ATM withdrawal

    3/11/2012: Wells, TX

    3/13/2012: Lufkin, TX

    https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl

    WHY all the crisscrossing back and forth on I-10? Why make an ATM withdrawal in AZ, then go to TX, back to NM then back to TX???? What could possibly be the point of this? There are ATM's everywhere....no need to go from state to state. He would have had to cross through several border patrol check stations, multiple times. That should have raised some red flags IMO.
     
  12. Lucky 1

    Lucky 1 not all those who wander are lost....

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    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travel_Act"]Travel Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    For a person as allegedly intelligent as IK, it seems extremely strange to me that he would violate every single rule he had in this last episode. He abducted a woman 6 miles away from his home, held and murdered her in the shed next to his house, ransomed her, then committed interstate fraud by using her ATM card in AK, AZ, NM and TX. :waitasec: I can't imagine a scenario with a greater risk of being caught. IMO. He might as well have drawn a straight line to himself.

    And all this by the man who claimed to carry a sawed off shotgun "just in case" he was caught by local LE. IIRC he said he would never be taken alive....well, what happened to that plan?
     
  13. Snoopster

    Snoopster Well-Known Member

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    A real long shot. Here is what I posted on Carol's thread:

    Carol was a pastor found murdered in her small church, behind the altar. Her body was 'posed', nude and mutilated and a dissolving agent was sprayed around her body. Her hair was burned.

    Here is Carol's thread:
    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88118"]http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88118[/ame]
     
  14. Foxfire

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    Snoopster, if not IK, it was his alter ego, imo....
    <all links sniped & BBM>
    http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=11015439

    Carol Daniels was found dead in the Christ Holy Church in Anadarko last Sunday. The Oklahoman is reporting that Daniels was found nude, and her clothes were taken from the church.

    Vernon Geberth, a homicide expert and author, believes the killer may have posed Daniel's body like a crucifixion out of anger or retribution.

    "The presentation of a body, especially that of clergy person, in a manner suggestive of a crucifixion would lead me to believe the offender has focused his attack on some underlying anger or retribution," Geberth said. Geberth said the details will be important to this investigation.

    "The immediate problem that I see for criminal investigators is that they're not privy to the offenders motivation or his thinking pattern," Geberth said. "In all honesty, the devil will be in the details."
    ______________________________

    "I've prosecuted over 50 murders," District Attorney Bret Burns said. "This is the most horrific crime scene I've ever witnessed." He declined to elaborate, saying he did not want to jeopardize the investigation.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/0...e-was-horrific/?test=latestnews#ixzz2fiiPJ9uf

    _____________________________________

    Pastor Steve Palczynsky of the Cedar Hill Church of God in Anadarko said lack of official word is disconcerting and that he's taken extra steps to make sure his church is secure.

    A preliminary autopsy deemed Daniels' death a homicide caused by "multiple sharp force injuries," said Cherokee Ballard, spokeswoman for the state Medical Examiner's office.

    "The first thing I thought about, being human, was that maybe it was a serial killer and maybe he has something out for preachers, but the Lord takes care of us," he said.
    Tracy Schumpert, pastor of the town's First United Methodist Church, said members of the local clergy will meet Wednesday with Burns to discuss the case.

    "It's still very new, and we don't know what to think," she said. "Anything that happens like that, it's a community concern."


    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/0...e-was-horrific/?test=latestnews#ixzz2fifJtXD8

    __________________________________________________

    http://www.news9.com/Global/story.asp?S=11009040

    Police say 61-year-old Carol Daniels' body was posed. Experts say there are three reasons killers leave the body in an unnatural position.

    The most common is sexual fantasy or to give the killer sexual pleasure. Next is the anger-retaliation motive, where someone does it to get back at the victim. And finally, the motive of posing the body may be to confuse investigators - to make the scene look like one thing, when it's actually about something else.

    "Less than one percent of all homicides present sexually posed victims."

    Police have not released any information concerning sexual assault in Pastor Daniels' case; however, the autopsy diagrams show her left breast was severely injured, which Geberth says is sexual in nature.

    "I do see mutilation to the breast, so I have to assume it's a sexual presentation, the cutting to the throat is also interesting, because it's sexual as is strangulation," Geberth said.

    The diagrams show what look like defensive wounds on her hands, and her neck injury was devastating, possibly to the point of near decapitation.
     
  15. Lucky 1

    Lucky 1 not all those who wander are lost....

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    Remember the knife he kept asking about when they went through his boat? Can't remember the type, but he said they would find blood on it.....seemed a little concerned about the discovery of that knife. Sorry, can't remember which interview it was mentioned in.
     
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    https://www.google.com/search?q=Col...Ow8QSliIFw&ved=0CDoQsAQ&biw=978&bih=639&dpr=1

    Cold Steel Tanto, 4 1/2-inch folding knife photos
    __________________________________________________

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/14/israel-keyes-interview-tapes-video_n_3754539.html


    Israel Keyes, Serial Killer, Gave Up Bodies In Washington On Released FBI Tapes (VIDEO)

    Keyes lived in Washington state before moving to Anchorage in 2007.

    In a Nov. 29 interview, just three days before he was found dead in his jail cell from suicide, Keyes asked if investigators had found any knives at his New York property or on a boat he owned in Washington state. He said there were two knives missing from his girlfriend's home in Anchorage, and he didn't know where they were.

    He was particularly concerned about a Cold Steel Tanto, 4 1/2-inch folding knife he bought in Port Angeles, Wash. Asked by Assistant U.S. Attorney Kevin Feldis why the knife was important, Keyes indicated authorities might find something if they took it apart.

    Was it blood?

    "Well, there might, not on it, maybe inside somewhere," Keyes replied.

    He said, "yeah," when asked if the knife was associated with one of the Washington killings.
     
  17. Lucky 1

    Lucky 1 not all those who wander are lost....

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    http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=11044547

    Man Claims He Saw Murder Suspect Fleeing Anadarko Church
    Posted: Sep 03, 2009 9:04 PM EST Updated: Sep 04, 2009 1:01 PM EST

    BBM
     
  18. Lucky 1

    Lucky 1 not all those who wander are lost....

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    http://www.tulsaworld.com/article.a...solved_more_than/20120311_11_a14_oklaho552762

    Chicago. One of IK's central hubs. But given that this is Oklahoma, we well never get any further information.....IMO.
     
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    Lucky1, I sat and read the forum on this crime and all stories....The man that saw this was said to be homeless, but later on someone told the press he was not homeless but had choose to stay at the car wash for years.....with all that being said I go back to the Boca Raton Mall shootings, Jane Doe was told by her abductor to tell LE that he was Short, Black and Fat.....Sounds like if this was Keyes, he knew this little town pretty good, and who knows if he went by the man known to be drinking at the car-wash, Keyes would have known many would not believe this man because in moo seems he may have been mentally challenged but the words that stuck out to me was "Ski-Mask"
    "knife"....she was "Black"...."Church" and then posing her body in a "Crucificx"
    Keyes could have been sleeping in this church and then perhaps the pastor surprised him when she un-locked the door, or I personally think he had this planned as with other victims known, she drove about 2 hours each Sunday to get to the church and then back home as stated in one of the above articles, I'm sure this Pastor had tried to witness to him and we know he proclaimed to be Atheists, this would have made him so angry just like the Elder at the Church of Wells tried to preach at him....so that is why I feel this lady is Keyes Victim in moo.....Seems he was consumed with going to churches as he stated, doing a kill, then burn the church or let the members walk in on the crime....I just feel this kill really gave him a "high" and he wanted to do more in this matter, I personally feel also the only reason this church did not burn sucessfully (only the Pastor's Hair" was that 2 of her friends showed up a little after 11:00 a.m.....Chemicals had been sprayed around this pastor's body, but only the hair burnt...Perhaps he got in a hurry to leave....but all is moo
     
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    Not sure why, but your link didn't work for me on Carol Daniels' thread, but it does here. Lucky (or, rather unlucky) for me it caused me to look up the Tanto cold steel knife.


    http://www.***************/knife-283854.html


    :stormingmad:
     

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