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Wvgirl, I'm from WV too and haven't heard this. Do you have an article or anything you could post so we could read more? TIA!
 
Salsa said:
What kind of behavior of a John would make you post a warning post to other working girls on Back Pages or Craigslist? If you have not had this experience what behavior do you think would make a working warn others to not take out calls.
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No shows get a warning. That is a client who repeatedly books appointments and then doesn't show up. Clients who don't pay or who give counterfeit money, clients who overstay, if you book a half hour then that means a half hour not an hour, clients who are not hygienic, who ask fore bareback as protection is a must, there are many non violent reasons for warnings but then there is the more sensitive stuff within the BCL (bad client lists). There are the stalkers, the violent robbers, the clients that have a fetish that the stw does not want to consent to, like maybe choking or a dominant/submissive, bdsm activities. The client then should seek out a person who offers those services. If a client becomes rough or tries things that were not discussed beforehand because if the stw offers GFE (girlfriend experience) and the client is expecting PSE (*advertiser censored* star experience) or Dom/sub experience then there are going to be issues.

I have come across some brutal stories and I recall one lady had to escape a call when she noticed the client had a body bag and she booted it out of there and warned others in the BCL. Others have been violently robbed or got hurt for one reason or another.

i think on the most part that most clients are not violent. People need human interaction, companionship, someone to accompany them for dinner or a social function. Some clients want and need a sincere sexual experience as its human nature and is also a huge stress relief. Some clients want a girlfriend for one or a few hours and are not in a position to commit so the GFE is for them. I think it's a beneficial service. My opinion is that the brutal crimes are rare.

Its the bad apples the ruin it for everyone.

Moo
 
I do believe he could ask. I live in British Columbia Canada. I used to use craigslist and backpage for my postings. I did have a man one time ask me not to bring a phone or pocketbook as he called it. he wouldnt tell me what he would be driving because i usually asked so i could watch for them he just wanted a place a time and what i was wearing.i didnt listen and brought my purse he didnt show although i do believe he drove by saw my purse and didnt stop. at first i was mad cause im like what a weirdo telling me what i cant bring .nothing else dawned on me until before when i watched a documentary on the gilgo beach body discoveries and it was mentioned some had no purse no phone and it immediately brought back that day to me. i wish nw i could have saved our conversation some how.
 
Question, I just got on this backpage to research someone and some old posts. Is it normal to have the same group of guys talking to each other on a daily basis? I mean they are cruel guys! Could it be a group of guys working together as LISK?
 
diamond29 said:
I do believe he could ask. I live in British Columbia Canada. I used to use craigslist and backpage for my postings. I did have a man one time ask me not to bring a phone or pocketbook as he called it. he wouldnt tell me what he would be driving because i usually asked so i could watch for them he just wanted a place a time and what i was wearing.i didnt listen and brought my purse he didnt show although i do believe he drove by saw my purse and didnt stop. at first i was mad cause im like what a weirdo telling me what i cant bring .nothing else dawned on me until before when i watched a documentary on the gilgo beach body discoveries and it was mentioned some had no purse no phone and it immediately brought back that day to me. i wish nw i could have saved our conversation some how.
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Thank you for posting & joining us at WS :)

All I can say... I'm so thankful you took your purse!
 
diamond29 said:
I do believe he could ask. I live in British Columbia Canada. I used to use craigslist and backpage for my postings. I did have a man one time ask me not to bring a phone or pocketbook as he called it. he wouldnt tell me what he would be driving because i usually asked so i could watch for them he just wanted a place a time and what i was wearing.i didnt listen and brought my purse he didnt show although i do believe he drove by saw my purse and didnt stop. at first i was mad cause im like what a weirdo telling me what i cant bring .nothing else dawned on me until before when i watched a documentary on the gilgo beach body discoveries and it was mentioned some had no purse no phone and it immediately brought back that day to me. i wish nw i could have saved our conversation some how.
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Diamond, were you in British Columbia when this happened? Do you recall the year and/or any other details? I spent overall about 14 years living in the New York (Queens and Long Island) area but also lived lived 21 years in Texas and am now in North Carolina. I have always noted regional slang differences. I recalled that years ago we called our purses, pocketbooks (aka pokka-books, Lol.) in the the NY area. Some still do as I learned when I moved back to LI in 2008. To confirm what I recalled, I found this:

http://spleeness.blogspot.com/2009/04/regional-slang-purse-vs-pocketbook.html

What did/do you all call purses in British Columbia? Did you ever hear his voice? I'm thinking your correspondence was all in written messages, but wouldn't it be interesting if he was from NY, especially since British Columbia is now where near NY.

Long shot, but ya never know.
 
relay said:
Diamond, were you in British Columbia when this happened? Do you recall the year and/or any other details? I spent overall about 14 years living in the New York (Queens and Long Island) area but also lived lived 21 years in Texas and am now in North Carolina. I have always noted regional slang differences. I recalled that years ago we called our purses, pocketbooks (aka pokka-books, Lol.) in the the NY area. Some still do as I learned when I moved back to LI in 2008. To confirm what I recalled, I found this:

http://spleeness.blogspot.com/2009/04/regional-slang-purse-vs-pocketbook.html

What did/do you all call purses in British Columbia? Did you ever hear his voice? I'm thinking your correspondence was all in written messages, but wouldn't it be interesting if he was from NY, especially since British Columbia is now where near NY.

Long shot, but ya never know.
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Interesting post! Thanks for pointing this out. Be interesting to see what diamond29 answers back with :)
 
diamond29 said:
I do believe he could ask. I live in British Columbia Canada. I used to use craigslist and backpage for my postings. I did have a man one time ask me not to bring a phone or pocketbook as he called it. he wouldnt tell me what he would be driving because i usually asked so i could watch for them he just wanted a place a time and what i was wearing.i didnt listen and brought my purse he didnt show although i do believe he drove by saw my purse and didnt stop. at first i was mad cause im like what a weirdo telling me what i cant bring .nothing else dawned on me until before when i watched a documentary on the gilgo beach body discoveries and it was mentioned some had no purse no phone and it immediately brought back that day to me. i wish nw i could have saved our conversation some how.
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hi Diamond, I see that your profile states your location as Kamloops, BC. I see on the Project Kare Bulliten board Archives that they discuss homicides of stws in Kamloops. Here is the link. You might have to scroll down a bit to the article. http://projectkarearchives.blogspot.ca/2006/10/venus-envys-map.html
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Thanks for the map and information............

Going from the map it looks like the next body should show up in the Leduc area..........Looks like a very precise pattern except for one victim.....

Aside from that if you go according to geo profiling the sk would live in the middle of the first 3 or all of the victims (except for the one)...............Ardrossan or Sherwood Park (from the first 3)

Any thoughts?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject: sk travelling Reply with quote
Here is some info available on the web regarding the Kamloops victims (ctv.ca):

Police seek link in Edmonton-Kamloops murders
EDMONTON — Police in British Columbia and Alberta are looking for a possible link between the mysterious deaths of more than a dozen prostitutes in Edmonton and three slayings in Kamloops, B.C.

There may be similarities in the way the women were killed, said RCMP Cpl. Wayne Oakes.

"If we have sex-trade workers murdered in one community and sex-trade workers murdered in another community -- even if they're provinces apart -- it would be prudent for the investigators to share the information that they're obtaining to see if there are any links or ties between those homicides,'' said Oakes, a spokesman for the Mounties in Edmonton.

Police in the Alberta capital have announced they are looking for a serial killer.

They released a profile and are offering a $100,000 reward.

At least 12 sex-trade workers in and around the city have been murdered since 1988, but only announced Friday they suspect they are victims of a serial killer.

So far, Kamloops investigators have said there's no evidence suggesting their cases are linked, saying only that prostitution is a dangerous occupation related to drug use.

The three slayings in Kamloops date back to the summer of 2003, with the most recent in early April when the body of 44-year-old Sherry Lee Hiltz was found.

She was so badly beaten, pathologists had to use fingerprints to identify her.

Fear grips the community of about 35 sex-trade workers who regularly walk Kamloops streets.

Eight-hundred kilometres northeast, police are hunting for a man believed to enjoy hunting and fishing and who is thought to own a sport utility vehicle.

Police wouldn't say the exact number of cases or the time frame in which they believe he killed.

The Edmonton deaths are being investigated by a provincial RCMP task force dubbed Project KARE, which is also investigating the deaths of scores of other sex-trade workers across the province.....

They are not certain they are related, but there is similarities. I read somewhere else, I can't remember where, that two of the victims were found in a field.
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DexterMorgan said:
Didn't the father and son say Gilbert ran that way toward the marsh?

So how would the drug dealing doctor have been able to get her back to his house if she was so paranoid that she ran away from her roommate/driver or whatever?

But another question.

Did Gilbert call the driver to pick her up? Or did the John call? And how soon did the driver get there? And how long did it take for her to run out passed him and away from him?

Did he see her or circle the neighborhood or marsh area?

He knew she was in the vicinity at 5am.
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"Trust me I'm a doctor" "I can help You, and keep you safe". "I can give you something to calm your nerves"
She prob trusted him, because he would have been her "last resort'. A safe haven, and an altrnative from police being called.
Unkbenkownst to her he was connected to this weird LI sex party ring, with wealthy participants, and law enforcement officials involved.
It just goes to show
"Power corrupts. Absolute Power corrupts absolutely.
So I do believe there is possibly more than one killer involved, and they all cover for each other. Because if one domino falls......
This would explain why 'nothing' was found at 'John's house on LI. And why things went downhill after SG asked the client if he had ever hooked up with a tranny. Remember the Asian male victim was more beaten up than the others.
This would also explain the discrepancies between what the police said about SG's manner of death, and the B.S. story of how her clothes were off, and scattered.
 
DexterMorgan said:
Didn't the father and son say Gilbert ran that way toward the marsh?

So how would the drug dealing doctor have been able to get her back to his house if she
was so paranoid that she ran away from her roommate/driver or whatever?

But another question.

Did Gilbert call the driver to pick her up? Or did the John call? And how soon did the driver get there? And how long did it take for her to run out passed him and away from him?

Did he see her or circle the neighborhood or marsh area?

He knew she was in the vicinity at 5am.
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Law enforcement involvement would also explain why she was so afraid of cops being called,( I think maybe one person in that house was a cop) and why she wouldn't get in car with her driver. It would have all too easy for them to get to pulled over.
Look at how easy it was to discredit Her assertion that "They're trying to kill me. Because they chalked it up to her being a crazy Ho. Compared to a super rich family man's word, and police officials, who have been proven to be corrupt liars of the worst kind.
Then you have the escort who said she met corrupt officer ( who is now in prison for 4 years) at wild cocain fueled sex party.
Then you have Peaches, and Baby. One has to ask who would a prostitute trust enough to take her baby along with? A cop, a doctor.
It's all just so macabre.
But remember the truth is stranger than fiction.
 
Hi Does anyone have links or screenshots of the girls last postings on Craigslist or backpage?
 
Generally speaking, we did not post their ads. We did comment on them and give some details about them, if memory serves. If you go to each victim's individual thread, you will find information about their ads, monikers they often used for these ads, etc. etc. If there were any ads actually posted, that's likely where you would find them...in the girl's individual thread.

Hope that helps a little.
 
I remember shortly after this case broke that there was a website on which men rated CL and BP prostitutes. Many of these men had been on dates with the identified victims who used different names. Some even posted pictures of the girls with a copy of their ad. The site has since been lost to me but I couldn't help but think that LISK was a member of that site.

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PastorJerry said:
I remember shortly after this case broke that there was a website on which men rated CL and BP prostitutes. Many of these men had been on dates with the identified victims who used different names. Some even posted pictures of the girls with a copy of their ad. The site has since been lost to me but I couldn't help but think that LISK was a member of that site.

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Yeah I also remember finding them on a thread when the case first came out, would be helpful if someone still has them saved.


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Mountain_Kat said:
Generally speaking, we did not post their ads. We did comment on them and give some details about them, if memory serves. If you go to each victim's individual thread, you will find information about their ads, monikers they often used for these ads, etc. etc. If there were any ads actually posted, that's likely where you would find them...in the girl's individual thread.

Hope that helps a little.
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Thank you!


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I am wondering when things changed for the LISK - from wanting to keep their cell phones (and seemingly deriving pleasure from calling their families) to requesting that they leave them behind. Anyone have a timeline on this?
 
I am wondering when things changed for the LISK, from wanting to keep their cell phones (and seemingly deriving pleasure from calling their families), to requesting that they do not bring their phones. Anyone have a timeline on this?
 
Bnev said:
I am wondering when things changed for the LISK - from wanting to keep their cell phones (and seemingly deriving pleasure from calling their families) to requesting that they leave them behind. Anyone have a timeline on this?
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To the best of my memory, it was after shannan gilbert's disappearance. That is one of the reasons why people may want to look at connection between her and the gb4 even, though only circumstantial.

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I dont believe anyone was told to leave their phones behind. Its a rumor that grew legs.
 
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