the "accident" victim

Discussion in 'Israel Keyes' started by Backwoods, Nov 30, 2013.

  1. Knox

    Knox Well-Known Member

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    Just a quick question, hoping someone can answer. Has the Lindsey Baum case in McCleary, WA been checked out against IK's timeline?
     
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  2. jellybeanz

    jellybeanz Well-Known Member

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    That would be very interesting
     
  3. dub

    dub Well-Known Member

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    From the timeline (these are the two closest noted points):

    BBM
    June 20, 2009: Hotel reservation (Extended Stay) - Anchorage, Alaska.

    7/2009: visited his grandmother in CA
    according to FB, Keyes visits California in July 2009 for his grandmother's 90th birthday


    I wish we knew when in July Keyes was in CA, and what his travel itinerary was surrounding that trip. I personally don't think he had anything to do with Lindsey Baum, but the timeline definitely doesn't rule out the possibility that he did.
     
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  4. cpeacock1

    cpeacock1 Verified family member - Allison Renee Smith case

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    Just gotta say...in reading this thread, there are two members of WEBSLEUTHS that posted here and who have passed. Foxfire and Tulessa. Thinking about them and all those who loved them.
     
  5. Sincerely

    Sincerely Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking of them too. What a bizarre case that was.
     
  6. Octopied

    Octopied New Member

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    Hi all, new here!

    Just a thought regarding this victim- just because IK said HE thinks it would look like an accident, doesn't mean that's actually how it looked. Remember, this is the guy that thought the Aledo, TX house fire he set wasn't suspected to be arson, when the police immediately knew it was, as well as not knowing that debit card transactions were tracible etc. (There were a few other incidents during the interviews where he was surprised at what investigators could do, know or find out, for example he didn't even realize that his prison phone calls were being recorded and listened to)

    While I don't think we should rule out accidental death rulings that work with his timeline, especially those in national parks/forests etc, we should also be aware that what IK said and what reality is, are not always compatible.
     
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    Morbid Generosity New Member

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    Apologies in advance for any etiquette or toes, I trip over, first foray here. I shared uncomfortably similar geography with Keyes and am familiar with how many different LE agencies and jurisdictions his victims might have been the responsibility of just in WA. I don't know if the tribal cops share databases with local pds. And given the vague or non-existent data on missing persons federal rangers seem unable to record, I wouldn't doubt you could lose quite a few accidents amongst all the jurisdictional authority flexing and sustained grudge matches. Just from Neah to Kingston there are Park Rangers, Coast Guard, Border Patrol, State Patrol, OP-Net, local pd, tribal pd, and Sheriffs. Running this many simultaneous vacuums of federal funding would make you think all the cracks a body could fall through would be covered, it actually creates more and I can easily see one not reporting to the rest when it was a simple accidental fishing (hiking, hunting, illegal tree cutting, etc) death.
    I am trying to gather some balls and get in touch with all the girls I took a trip to Ocean Shores with senior yr of highschool without sounding like an absolute nutjob. I am pretty certain he was one of the 15 guys from JBLM that crashed on the beach and extra beds of our rented house for the weekend. Regardless of the reliability my inebriated memory has for faces from 20 years ago, the guys from the base went on trips all over the coast on the weekends. Just a thought for anyone disregarding his time spent there as static.
     
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  8. DetectiveDraper

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    You should give this info to the FBI, even if you feel silly doing it, it could be the one missing piece of a puzzle that could help solve a crime or even murders.
     
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    cpeacock1 Verified family member - Allison Renee Smith case

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    cpeacock1 Verified family member - Allison Renee Smith case

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