The aftermath of the verdict *MERGED*

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay of Australia' started by Spotted Reptile, Jul 15, 2014.

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  1. Makara

    Makara Former Member

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    Haven't got that far yet BJ. Just finished reading about a whole new computer program setup to correlate the early evidence and the huge amount of police involved.
     


  2. Makara

    Makara Former Member

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    I think I may have missed that information. I can only find this from Privato. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...l-Days-2-amp-3-Week-1&p=10616676#post10616676
     
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    I went to high school with one of his nieces. I had no idea he had moved and was in the same area as us until he was arrested. It freaked a lot of us out at the time.
     
  4. itsthevibe

    itsthevibe Verified insider - Allison Baden-Clay case

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    I did put thought into it - what I posted was what I believe. However I point out 2 things - I did say I don't think all game hunters are killers of humans. So I did not tar all hunters with the 'killer' brush in the way that you say. Also - I am referring to game hunters who don't kill for food - the ones in Africa who kill animals for sport, antelope, deer, big cats, whatever. These people enjoy it, that's why they do it, and they love to produce photos of themselves holding up their kill, and look at their trophies of the horns and skulls on the wall. My comments were very clear that was what I was talking about - so I suggest you have not taken this into account.

    I really don't like hunting per se, or slaughter of any animals, and have commenced the gradual reduction of meat in my diet accordingly. I eventually hope to be vegetarian. At this stage I won't eat veal because of the way the little calves are kept in tiny enclosed pods. I try to eat organic pork from small farms when I can get it or afford it. I only eat organic free range chicken and organic free range eggs. This is not enough of course, I plan to do more about reducing my meat consumption. I have also campaigned against live exports. However it is a personal choice and I do make the distinction betwen those who hunt for food or kill things like feral pigs or whatever, and those who kill purely for sport, and who are proud of it. I suggest that most people who hunt for food, or to eliminate pests, dont usually have the trophies all over their walls or photos of themselves holding up the animals. And they are not usually going around trying to kill as many different varieties of animals as they can.
     
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    I've always suspected that the "hand/field signals" used by GBC on his daughters had been learned from his own upbringing.
     
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    Spotted Reptile New Member

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    Fair enough. But then you say that the 'whole hunter mentality normalises killing and intrinsically teaches the 'right' to take another being's life.' Again, you are putting hunters all into the same basket. I have hunted and killed animals. I do not, repeat not, feel this equates to taking a human life in any capacity at all. It is a picture drawn by someone who has not ever participated in it, and is viewing it from the outside. Go out with a group of responsible, adult hunters (yes there are many), and see if they all have murdering tendencies. To say that killing an animal is an 'easier' step towards killing a person is a grossly irresponsible and offensive statement to me. You simply cannot equate the two, and respectfully, you have no idea what you are talking about in this particular area.

    I agree with you in every other aspect of your post, and I am aware that there are some gross behaviours out there relating to killing animals. But hunters ain't all hunters. All I'm saying.
     
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    MsAnais Verified Clinical Psychologist (AU)

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    He was ten years old when he came to Aus, so he must have attended primary school before:

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...s-great-grandson/story-fnl1b568-1226966024442
     
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    MsAnais Verified Clinical Psychologist (AU)

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    Thank you :)
     
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    Makara Former Member

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    MsAnais Verified Clinical Psychologist (AU)

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    Hi Spotted Reptile.

    I don't want to enter into a big debate about this with you, as it is obviously emotive for you. I'm really sorry if I offended you - not my intention at all!!!

    And I certainly wasn't trying to say that all hunters could easily kill humans - I was referring to somebody like GBC, without any apparent moral core or empathy for other people. I believe that if that kind of person has been exposed to hunting and killing of animals for 'fun' and 'kicks' and the dead bodies are then hung up on walls like trophies, I think that has an influence on his ability to respect life. It desensitises a man like that to death and dead bodies. That's all I'm saying.

    And of course, it's only my opinion. Not claiming it's gospel :seeya:
     
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    Is that just normal gear for a Game Warden?
     
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    Looking at the girls at Allison's funeral, at one point, I queried whether he used a hand signal on the youngest child i.e. he had his right hand on her chest and his pointer and middle finger separated and pressing into her chest. Meanwhile she is holding her maternal grandmother's hand.
     
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    I love this article so much! Finally, just like O prophesied the truth IS coming out. Allison was a much-loved woman, who is dearly missed not only by her family, but also by her loving friends.

    I can't write much more, as my sadness and abhorrent regard for her dastardly murdering spouse and his family will get me <modsnipped> and on time out or banned.

    I was never prepared for the gravity of information that would surface after Mr "lets have a threesome", "married but don't want to be", circumcised Rooster, looking for discrete relations with as many people as possible got his unexpected conviction. He thought he was going home, poor sausage. I know he's in good company at Walston. :jail:
     
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    Yes please do privato
     
  19. Greg

    Greg New Member

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    Ok that's it! ....I won't be able to function now until privato spills the beans.........
     
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    Yes, me too. In the same way that I say "quick sticks" instead of " hurry up" to my kids.
     
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