The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 10th July - Trial Day 18

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  1. FigTree

    FigTree Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Marly!
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  2. Freya1977

    Freya1977 Well-Known Member

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    I think it was them "staying back late to work", but I don't think he was actually staying at her place overnight 4 nights a week, or at all. There's no way he would have gotten away with that... Imagine it!
     
  3. wewillgetyou

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    Does anyone know who actually stated that the person who approached the jury member was wearing purple ?
    If it was the judge he wasn't very subtle was he ? Lol
     
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    I was in the Banco overflow room and I'm pretty sure I heard the judge say that the person who approached the jury member was wearing purple. I didn't put two and two together until later.
     
  6. Consider

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    From experience four times of same - 'he' of course according to him didn't pre-meditate. Our children heard no conversation, there was no noise (I didn't see it coming, I was knocked out and if it had not been for something - I can't tell you - my gorgeous 5 year old? 9 year old? him feeling my last breaths under his hands around my nose and mouth and the other hand around my throat with absolute purpose?)

    Who knows what happened to poor GBC that night?

    I feel it happened for the first time and to this day he can't understand except to excuse the stress HE was under.

    jmo

    It happens.
    Good people do bad. Not often. But occasionally with diabolical 'I am not that person' consequences.

    Everyone including the f hole who did it is a victim.

    Consequences (natural, legal or generational) are not going to save or redeem the victims.

    j m o
     
  7. kiwijayne

    kiwijayne Well-Known Member

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    ? Yeah poor GBC must be so hard for him.

    Yes first time :facepalm:

    Sorry I would hardly call GBC a good person

    GBC a victim? Hardly

    The only victims here are Allison, her daughters and her family JMHO
     
  8. Freya1977

    Freya1977 Well-Known Member

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    Me too!
     
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    Me three!
     
  10. Susan12

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    I hope it's just because of being unsure of the level of premeditation required for murder... Like the movies make it seem intent for murder is planned out quite in advance whereas in Australia it sounds to be if you knew you were causing harm even as you were causing it and not planned it before it's still murder. If its true the jury is asking the question, do we think that means he'll be guilty of something or just trying to understand the three options?
     
  11. they'll get you

    they'll get you CHRIS. P. BACON

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    Clay was upset with Flegg gossiping about his business failing and Flegg said it it didn't come from me. I've been looking everywhere- was it Sue Heath or did Fuller mention it in his roundup. I know it's was said. That why I grabbed it with both hands - that is a violent act!!
     
  12. Freya1977

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    It was the judge.
     
  13. Susan12

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    Oh so did it not happen or are they not meant to report it?
     
  14. Freya1977

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    I was in the actual court when he said it, and I thought of EBC because of her puffy jacket, and she had a purple scarf as well. Then shortly after, Olivia must have gotten chilly and she put on her jacket, it was bright purple, and I thought "oh my...."
     
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    Yes hopefully the judge makes it very clear. Murder doesn't need to be planned in advance :)
     
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    Kiwijayne

    I agree, GBC does not have my sympathy.

    Narcissists seriously do not expect to mess up their image.

    GBC did (in ways he can't compute - he's all about him).

    GBC lives, uses and extinguishes/kills (those that fade or ruin the image he aims to project)

    I want him incarcerated forever.

    I can't see how him having visitation with their three girls can improve their 3 long lives.

    jmo
     
  17. Susan12

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    I think being suffocated where you're struggling for breath and the attacker knows they're robbing you of breath but keeps going would count as that level of harm. It'd be attempted murder if she'd lived, since she died it's murder. Those scratches on his face and body are not small or light, they are from someone seriously desperate. He would know from feeling that from her how panicked, fearful and hurt she was feeling and she was alive then - and he persisted. I feel for Allison, her girls and her family, she did not deserve this.
     
  18. TootsieFootsie

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    I've been getting those noises since I was in my 20's.
    I used to think they came from outside, ie someone doing work or the bang of a car door. It was only when I read a news item a few months ago that I discovered I might have that exploding head syndrome. What a weird name LOL.:crazy:
    Funny that I've never been frightened by the noises and mine don't happen that often.
    I actually have a favourite of those sounds, the clash of a cymbal :)

     
  19. kiwijayne

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    My guess it would have been an extended family member of theirs as EBC and OW stand out.
     
  20. they'll get you

    they'll get you CHRIS. P. BACON

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    Yes that 'little bit hurt' crap has been burnt into my retinas.
    OW has those dark lifeless eyes like her brother. Eyes of Clay.
     
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