The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 2nd July - Trial Day 14, Week 3

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay of Australia' started by marlywings, Jun 3, 2014.

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    toe New Member

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  2. Liadan

    Liadan Well-Known Member

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    DEAD SET! it happened - He is fighting for his life - he will do whatever it takes! That journalist that attempted to speak to the jury was probably on his payroll. A few words from GBC to help the jury out with all this terrible truth that he has to reveal from Prosecutor Fuller.

    I think he also wanted help from Mr Byrne re how to get out from Todd Fullers questioning. The judge has had more surprises in this case than a Christmas hamper.
     
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    Originally Posted by Flabbergasted View Post
    I wonder how Pastor Walton-Baden-Walton-Clay is going with preparing his next sermon to a bewildered congregation. Remember way back the email he sent to his parishoners about how they are going to be hearing a lot of dreadful untruths.........I am imagining him tweeting the trial word for word to his congregation until getting to the bit where Gerard asks the prosecutor how much sordid detail he is expected to give and he suddenly realises and rereads what he has tweeted.....

    Ohhhh that's hilarious.....I love the name
     
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    Liadan Well-Known Member

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    For a few of the Ws'ers that wanted to know about Allisons diary - the book is Relationship Rescue. Sometimes she refers to pages within and sometimes to chapters, mainly about anger in the relationship, fear, and lonliness. Its terribly sad.
     
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    Thank you Liadan. It goes without saying that Allison was taking the blame for the fallout of Gerard's personality disorder.
     
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    Guess he wants a mistrial? Must feel his Defense angle sucked?
     
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    Perhaps he does realize that he is a goner now. Could have been a devious attempt to show (for later) that he is insane (or inane) - removal from reality.
     
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    We've had a couple of different versions of what transpired in the note passing incident from people who were present at court yesterday- just goes to show how everything can be open to interpretation and perception. I guess it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things - the whole notion of passing notes, and thinking that it would help at this stage of the trial, is pretty strange but kind of fits with the picture of GBC that has been building over time. He really doesn't have much of a clue about how a lot of things (or other humans for that matter) work outside of his own little world, does he?
    Thanks to the WSers who were in attendance yesterday - the rest of us wouldn't have heard anything about this without your accounts.
     
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    alioop Verified Attorney (AU)

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    I agree JBC. Basically the defence can't suggest an alternate theory of how the person died if their client has told them he is responsible. That's part of the ethics of being a lawyer. I remember our ethics textbook at law school and I was amazed how small it was compared to all the big thick books.

    That has its own punishment of max 2 yrs. http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/qld/consol_act/cc189994/s236.html

    Never heard of this happening. Yes it could lead to a mistrial if the jury had received it depending what it said. Bailiff earned his pay yesterday. From what Liadan has said as she was in court, there was more than one note attempt not only to the jury.



    Superb sleuthing Liaden. Wonder if the prosecution or defence had worked this out.
     
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    they'll get you CHRIS. P. BACON

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    I can't find the link but when he was asked if he knew where Allison's pyjamas were he answered 'I can not see them in this photo'.
    Well yes they weren't in the photo but that was not the answer to that question!
    That to me shows a manipulator and seasoned liar who very subtly changes the question to suit his answer.
    I worked with a salesman who used to answer a question with a question which became annoying.

    Example: Q: did you shave this morning? A: did I shave this morning?
    Then either the question is asked again or there's that moment of silence while the answer is contemplated.

    I found extremely annoying and I was naive to the reason but after he was sacked my boss explained. That is when a liar buys time to think of an answer.
    My boss was a wake up.
    The reason that salesman was sacked? Because he started harassing our female clients with little children, if ya know what I mean.
     
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    What i'm sceptical about is, we only have Gerry's word Toni was volatile, and we all know what a liar he is. This leaves me unable to believe this theory. Let's face it TM has had how many years of being the mistress and never once attempted to contact Allison over all that time, even after losing her job and Allison taking her place. She had a firm unconditional commitment from Gerry which no doubt she believed would happen with his 'leave it to me' scouts honour commitment. I can't get my head around the fact Allison was murdered because Gerry feared a Allison and TM confrontation, from all accounts I can't see Allison lowering herself to confront TM at the conference either.
     
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    Was there more than one note attempt??
     
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    they'll get you CHRIS. P. BACON

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    warning warning Will Robinson

    Aghhhhgh it's the Grannie pash! no no not the Grannie pash
     
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    Hey FirstTimer was this after he had already been questioned by the defence about the app, and when Fuller made the comment about the app not working when GBC really needed it (sorry my lazy paraphrasing there)? And if the judge consulted with the defence, I'm wondering whether they knocked the idea of GBC giving any additional testimony on the head themselves.
    It's all very interesting anyway!
     
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    Totally agree PH! She was super resilient and never gave up! No doubt it is what made her so successful in the other parts of her life.

    I just love it when one of the girls said to the police in the interview - how did you know that your mum came back into see you and her answer was because she said she would. That to me speaks volumes about the trust caring and understanding Allison had with not just her girls but everyone.
     
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    Morning all, still catching up the nights posts but wow, the note? What a dumbass. Entitled to the very end. Maybe he should add lawyer to his very impressive C.V? I spent another night dreaming in Websleuths post form. It makes for a very disjointed sleep. Can't wait to go back to normal! Thanks in advance to everyone today.
     
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