TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #13

[another nosey mom]

this may be a really stupid question
did Holly have her own car, and is it still in the driveway - was the trunk checked?
I haven't heard anything like - she was gone, but her car was still there ??

 

[Lera213]

You know it could be the reporter speculating too because LE didn't confirm or deny. So the reporter suspects the dogs didn't. How many times have we witnessed the press get it wrong?

 

[sleuthan]

Yes...my DIL was one of the forensic specialists at the crime scene. She personally wrestled the cover from the pool. Nothing was found.

Thank you that was bugging me!

So has it been confirmed about the dogs not picking up scent past residence?

 

[daisy.faithfull]

I just watched the segment on Geraldo........the following are important issues they raised.....IMO
1-John Walsh said there is only a very slim chance Holly is alive.
2-John Walsh said it bothers him that the family will not speak in public again.
3-John Walsh said the perpetrator could be anywhere.
4- Walsh said everyone should be polygraphed to be ruled....starting with family and then moving to friends.
Mark Furman, who said he has spoken to the TBI himself said:
1-No dogs hit anywhere in the woodline for a scent.
2-He wants to know the last person to see Holly alive besides the brother, did the parents see her that morning or was it more like 8 or 9 hours before that anyone else saw her.
3-He wants to know why the scenario given by the brother has changed 3 times. He wants to know when the brother saw blood, even maybe an hour later, why after calling 911, did he NOT run in the direction through the woods no matter how long he would have to run. Geraldo then pleaded for the parents to call them to help set everything straight.
Then it was told the mother herself arranged to have the T-shirts made to give Holly a vacation when she returns.

Last week Marc Klaas was on Nancy Grace discussing Phylicia Barnes. He made the comment that in most cases like Phylicia's after the abduction they are raped and killed.

Not something anyone wants to think about, but sadly I think that Holly is no longer alive.

 

[panthera]

What dogs were used? Tracking? Trailing? Makes a HUGE difference. IMO

That is exactly what I'm questioning first, before jumping to another conclusion. MOO

 

[cluciano63]

I don't know if it is a good idea to take Mark Fuhrman as gospel, anymore than Nancy Grace. He may be experienced, but it is Fox and they do like drama...kind of like HLN to me.

 

[Ransom]

You know it could be the reporter speculating too because LE didn't confirm or deny. So the reporter suspects the dogs didn't. How many times have we witnessed the press get it wrong?

14, 234,767 + or - a few. Good guess on my part. IMO

 

[Ransom]

That is exactly what I'm questioning first, before jumping to another conclusion. MOO

Me too. Different dogs for each circumstance. Different handlers. LE vs private, etc. WE don't know and that was my "lame" attempt to make a point. Back to lurking.

 

[vjlaw]

I didn't see Geraldo's show. Did Mark F. discuss the scream supposedly heard by the neighbor? Also, maybe the brother saw her walking toward the woods but maybe she never actually went into the woods. Just more unanswered questions. Was Mark in TN or did he say if he will go there?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Money is the root of all evil. ~ Just thought I throw this comment out here.:viking:raying::deadhorse::couch:

:up:This is the closest smilie I could find to represent Easter!:up:

 

[Adrienne37]

Mark Fuhrman is a known liar so again I wouldn't take anything that comes out of his mouth as gospel.



~jmo~

 

[daisy.faithfull]

Thank you that was bugging me!

So has it been confirmed about the dogs not picking up scent past residence?

I wonder if they had cadaver dogs out there.

I'm still not to suspicious of Holly's brother. I don't think that we have been given a clear enough account of what he said happened.

More importantly from what I understand there is just such a small window of time that the brother had to kill Holly, hide her somewhere and then plant the lunch box and duct tape (if that is related). But then again I don't think we know much about the timeline.

I hope that the brother didn't do it.

 

[DNeecie]

I didn't see Geraldo's show. Did Mark F. discuss the scream supposedly heard by the neighbor? Also, maybe the brother saw her walking toward the woods but maybe she never actually went into the woods. Just more unanswered questions. Was Mark in TN or did he say if he will go there?

He was not in TN, he said he called and didn't say who he talked to. The scream wasn't discussed either.

 

[sarx]

No Ransom, it's a very good point. We really have to be careful getting hung up on the dog issue. LE tracking dogs are NOT the same as SAR trailing dogs. Again, like on so many cases that pop up on here you hear about how there was no scent past the house/property. HUH? Of course there was, she probably left the house daily to go somewhere, so there were plenty of trails. Now, they may very well have lost it and that could quite possibly be because she got in a car and these dogs had not trained for car trailing, because it is certainly a different beast. My long winded point is, they are just a tool, and they can be faulty for a variety of reasons. They are wonderful tools, but if you are not successful with one, then you try another and another until you either find the person or you get a consensus. And if you are using the wrong type of dog for the job, well all bets off.

 

[Eileen730]

I don't know if it is a good idea to take Mark Fuhrman as gospel, anymore than Nancy Grace. He may be experienced, but it is Fox and they do like drama...kind of like HLN to me.

I like Mark Furman Fox news is a paycheck for him
With all of Nancy graces faults she sure does alot for missing ppl
John walsh said the same thing.

I dont think they are pointing fingers. They just want to rule these ppl out.
JMO

 

[cluciano63]

Only one report used the word "flecks" of blood and I think it was radar online, via Nancy Grace, so again...grain of salt. LE said a "small amount."

 

[Melanie]

May have been asked and answered - but did the brother take a LDT?

Thanks,

Mel

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

ENOUGH with the accusations and speculation of family member involvement!!! IT STOPS NOW. You have all been warned multiple times.

-It's fine to discuss the brother and anyone mentioned in the media and tied to this case. Its not ok to talk about him or anyone as a suspect or POI. No one has been named as such.

Might be a good time for some of you to review our rules here: Rules Etiquette & Information - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[Wondergirl]

Forgive me if this has already been addressed, but, if I were LE I would be wondering about the males NOT in attendance at this vigil.

It looks like the whole town is there.

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[s_finch]

Money is the root of all evil. ~ Just thought I throw this comment out here.:viking:raying::deadhorse::couch:

:up:This is the closest smilie I could find to represent Easter!:up:

Actually, the scripture 1 Timothy 6:10 "The love of money is the root of all evil" and I don't see the importance of that in this situation, I may be wrong and if I am will be the first to admit it.